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Ummm North Wales was an important point in british slave trade during Industrial Revolution.
I don't believe it has anything to do with the Atlantic Slave Trade. E3b, particularly M-81 (the Eurasian Berber subclade), has been found as far north as Scandinavia.
I'm not suggesting that ALL the E3b found in North Wales is related with slavery trade but surely slavery had an impact. 2.1% of welsh population is black.
I believe that high E1b1b (old E3b) sample came from the town of Abergele. Since Abergele is an old Roman trading town, I suspect the Romans may have been the primary source of all that E1b1b.
It would be interesting to know to what subclade of E1b1b the men of Abergele belong and if they have haplotype matches in Italy or the Balkans.
Yes, people forget that the Romans had people from all over the empire in their legions, from the Eastern Mediterranean, North Africa, the Middle East, etc., as well as Rome / Italian Peninsula
How do you know it is E-V13 ?? It could be E-M78 which is the most common subclade of E1b1b in Italy
I was going by what that Wikipedia article said. I mentioned that in my post, in which was the caveat "if this Wikipedia article is trustworthy".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abergele
Here's what it says:
Recent genetic studies as part of the Genetic history of Europe[1] on the y-chromosomes of men in Abergele have revealed that there is a substantial percentage of E1b1b1a2DNA in Abergele. Membership in Y chromosome haplogroup E1b1b1a2 (E-V13) was found to average at 38.97% in male y-chromosomes in Abergele. This genetic marker is found at its highest concentrations in the Balkans at up to approximately 40% in areas, but at much lower percentages in Northern Europe at less than 5%. The reason for the high levels of E1b1b in Abergele is most likely due to the heavy Roman legionary presence in Abergele as most of the Romans that came to Britain did not come from Italy, rather from other parts of the Roman Empire such as North Africa and eastern Europe. Above average levels of genetic marker E-V13 have been found in other towns in Britain that were known to have had a heavy Roman presence nearly 2000 years ago.
not enough reserach have been done on poulations of wales
not only north wales but also
southern wales e1b1b1b2 also exist in wales in the e3b project there are some e-m81
from wales a good explanation will be the spanish wing of the vettons which raised from western iberia very close portugal since m81 is neolithic or even earlier in iberia
will not be surprised if m81 arrived to wales by this unit
ps. to show you guys that i am not throwing things go to wikpedia or google and type: " list of roman auxiliry regiments" you can see the auxiliry units in germania superior, dacia ,germaania inferiour , and noricum {austria} many middle eastern units
since the roman were based mainly on archers from syria and cavalery from iberia and mooroco there was new site in kalefeld germany in saxony
genetic code
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