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Maciamo
23-03-10, 10:57
Contender for the most beautiful country in Europe (in the world ?) with France, Italy is a destination that should be on top of everyone's list.

Usually once people fall in love with Italy they go back there again and again.

Now let's see just how many of you have been there.

Marianne
23-03-10, 12:55
I have been to Italy just once but I plan to go again probably next summer. I didn't stay as much as I wanted last time so there are still many places to visit there.

I'm not sure if I prefer it over France though. It's a tough decision...

Starship
23-03-10, 13:47
Peschiera Lake Garda, a couple of years back, I loved the food the scenery, the relaxed attitude of the people, I'd like to go back some time.

julia90
04-02-11, 03:05
i'm italian, i'm tuscan

binx
23-02-11, 21:39
Many times.

Love Tuscany, Venice and Sicily! Best places in Italy.

Michael Folkesson
24-02-11, 02:28
I studied for a while in Viareggio, Toscana. I saw Pisa, Lucca, Firenze, Perugia, Roma, which was all too little. There is much to see in Italy, and they have much to be proud of.

Vallicanus
24-02-11, 10:49
Everybody should visit Italy before Italians become an "endangered species".:confused2:

julia90
25-02-11, 02:44
I studied for a while in Viareggio, Toscana. I saw Pisa, Lucca, Firenze, Perugia, Roma, which was all too little. There is much to see in Italy, and they have much to be proud of.

I know very well all of those places.:cool-v:
I spent many summers in Viareggio:grin:.
How did you find Viareggio? Have you had a great time?

Michael Folkesson
25-02-11, 04:41
It was a semester of Peace and Conflict studies, and yes, I had a great time. :)

Reinaert
26-02-11, 01:37
Went there, Bergamo, lovely country.
Felt like home.

Melusine
26-02-11, 02:34
Went to Florence, very very crowded, however it was a very great experience via the archituture, and of course there was "David" (although, I seem to recall that this is now a replica and the original is kept in another place.

We want to visit Positano next time around.

Chao,

Melusine

Cambrius (The Red)
26-02-11, 06:29
Fabulous country. Was in Rome, Sicily, Florence, Milan and Eastern Lombardi.

Wilhelm
26-02-11, 06:37
I've been to Italy three times.

Sybilla
26-02-11, 15:49
i'm italian, i'm tuscan

Hey darling, here a connational of yours. Cheers from an other place in central Italy. :28:

julia90
27-02-11, 02:42
Hey darling, here a connational of yours. Cheers from an other place in central Italy. :28:

in the middle lie the truest and most autentic italians:grin:

Angela
27-02-11, 20:17
in the middle lie the truest and most autentic italians:grin:

Un altra Toscana qui. :smile:
Yes, campanilismo reigns in Toscana too.

julia90
28-02-11, 02:20
Un altra Toscana qui. :smile:
Yes, campanilismo reigns in Toscana too.
:grin: di che parte sei?
Io sono della provincia di Firenze

Sybilla
28-02-11, 18:25
in the middle lie the truest and most autentic italians:grin:

I agree becouse central Italians are true Italics without Greek and Celtic admixtures. :grin: Anyway I am from Abruzzo, which economically is South (sigh!) but geographically/ethnically we are centre, brothers of Latials.

julia90
01-03-11, 00:36
I agree becouse central Italians are true Italics without Greek and Celtic admixtures. :grin: Anyway I am from Abruzzo, which economically is South (sigh!) but geographically/ethnically we are centre, brothers of Latials.
I've been there; i visited costal towns Montesilvano, Vasto, Chieti, Pescara; and also on the intern; i saw Sulmona, Roccaraso (it was the middle of august but it was freezing, i had a coat), Pescasseroli, Pescostanzo, and the national park of Gran Sasso, where i visited a zoo with Bears.
I also ate arrosticini.
Historically and dialectically abruzzo is south, but it's an anomalous south (more centre italy) beacuse; firstly the people are few (if you compare it with the mess of people in Campania) so you have more space; then they have a different caracter they are very quiet, then there doesn't exist mafia, camorra and blablabla all shitty things the south is full.
You are right you are more central italians.

One of your Compaesan l'Orso Marsicano :grin::cool-v:
http://bambinioggi.blogosfere.it/images/ORSO%20MARSICANO%203.jpg

Angela
01-03-11, 20:40
:grin: di che parte sei?
Io sono della provincia di Firenze

Sono della provincia di Massa Carrara.

I am from the province of Massa Carrara. However, my father's ancestors are from la provincia di Parma. So, mezza toscana?:smile:

Sybilla
02-03-11, 21:41
I've been there; i visited costal towns Montesilvano, Vasto, Chieti, Pescara; and also on the intern; i saw Sulmona, Roccaraso (it was the middle of august but it was freezing, i had a coat), Pescasseroli, Pescostanzo, and the national park of Gran Sasso, where i visited a zoo with Bears.
I also ate arrosticini.
Historically and dialectically abruzzo is south, but it's an anomalous south (more centre italy) beacuse; firstly the people are few (if you compare it with the mess of people in Campania) so you have more space; then they have a different caracter they are very quiet, then there doesn't exist mafia, camorra and blablabla all shitty things the south is full.
You are right you are more central italians.

One of your Compaesan l'Orso Marsicano :grin::cool-v:
http://bambinioggi.blogosfere.it/images/ORSO%20MARSICANO%203.jpg

Yes we consider ourselves Central Italians who had the misfortune to be annexed to the Southern State of the Two Sicilies. Characterially we are very different from Neapolitans and we have also porchetta which is a typical central Italian dish. :grin:
Characterially Abruzzesi are mountanious people and like all the mountanious peoples we are pretty introvert and the Marsican bear is often used to rapresent our character (introvert and very few talkative).
Anyway the favourite hobby of Abruzzesi is to hit Neapolitans and people from Bari so be careful to compare us with them :D We consider similar to Machisans, Latials and southern Abruzzo is close to Molise. Also the landscape of Abruzzo is very similar to Marche and Lazio.

julia90
02-03-11, 21:58
Sono della provincia di Massa Carrara.

I am from the province of Massa Carrara. However, my father's ancestors are from la provincia di Parma. So, mezza toscana?:smile:

You are a tuscan of the border then. almost ligurian (and indeed you are descendant of ligurians who in ancient time lived there: Liguri Apuani).
Your dialect has north italian way to speek too. But i don't know, Do you speek with Si impersonale, or with tuscan c, t, p, ?

I remeber a typical feature of Versilia speech (and i don't know if Carrarese o Massese too), famous in televison also thanks to Mario Il Bagnino di Panariello :grin:. "Marianna'n Gane!!":cool-v: "Beatrige ghe dige!" the use of g in some part of the speech, this is a feature present only in that place, and not in the rest of italy.

julia90
02-03-11, 22:04
Characterially Abruzzesi are mountanious people and like all the mountanious peoples we are pretty introvert and the Marsican bear is often used to rapresent our character (introvert and very few talkative).

Indeed that is what i perceived there, the people are "introvert".
I also know some abruzzese who live here in tuscany, and they are introvert; me and my family were hospitated in our abruzzese family friend town in the abruzzo mountains.

julia90
02-03-11, 22:06
Anyway the favourite hobby of Abruzzesi is to hit Neapolitans
I saw that many Neapolitans live in abruzzo, when i went there; me and my family hipotized that the transferred there because there live few people, if you compare it with Neapolis hinterland.
They searched tranquillity.

Sid71
04-03-11, 12:16
Italy is really a wonderful country with so much to see. Have been to Rome and Florence and enjoyed there a lot.

Angela
05-03-11, 20:17
You are a tuscan of the border then. almost ligurian (and indeed you are descendant of ligurians who in ancient time lived there: Liguri Apuani).
Your dialect has north italian way to speek too. But i don't know, Do you speek with Si impersonale, or with tuscan c, t, p, ?

I remeber a typical feature of Versilia speech (and i don't know if Carrarese o Massese too), famous in televison also thanks to Mario Il Bagnino di Panariello :grin:. "Marianna'n Gane!!":cool-v: "Beatrige ghe dige!" the use of g in some part of the speech, this is a feature present only in that place, and not in the rest of italy.

Salve, Julia

I am from the Lunigiana, north of La Spezia.

Although the things I have read indicate that the line between the northern celtic romance dialects and the more central Italian dialects is generally south of La Spezia, other things I have read say Massa. I'm not a linguist so I don't know. In the Lunigiana, anyway, it's more complicated I think; it depends on geography, and whether Emilia, Liguria or Toscana ruled it and for how long. Where I was born, the dialect is a mixture of all three. (And yes, it has that strange "g" sound. I read somewhere it is also present in Corsica, which makes sense, but I have no idea where it originated.)

My parents were of a generation and a type that valued speaking standard Italian rather than dialect, so they made a point of not speaking to me in dialect. I picked it up outside the home, so I am not a pro by any means. It is very different today. There is a resurgence in dialect there, so much so that in Pontremoli students study in dialect one hour a day, and many towns are changing the road signs naming the towns to dialect. A mistake in my opinion. (And God help the tourists!)

FWIW I don't think genetics exactly mirror language here, and I think the people are generally much more similar to Tuscans than to northerners.

Giulia, I just realized our conversation about language is probably off topic for this thread. If you or an administrator want to move it, that's more than fine with me.

julia90
06-03-11, 02:22
From wikipedia (Italian):

Da fonti classiche si apprende che il territorio fu abitato nell'antichità preromana dai Sengauni, detti anche Liguri Montani o Liguri Apuani.
Al tempo della Seconda guerra punica, gli Apuani (che abitavano non solo la Lunigiana, ma anche la Garfagnana e la Versilia) si schierarono con Annibale e restarono fino alla fine gli unici Liguri che non si arresero mai ai Romani, a differenza di tutte le altre tribù che, ad una ad una, capitolarono di fronte all'espansione di quello che sarebbe di lì a poco diventato l'Impero Romano.
Con la deportazione in massa nel Sannio dei circa cinquantamila Apuani che popolavano la regione (evento testimoniato da Tito Livio) si completa il difficile processo di conquista romana del territorio (180 a.C.).

All North-West Tuscany was inhabitated by Ligurians types.


A map of Tuscan Dialects:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Dialetti_toscani.jpg
apuano Anche se per molti linguisti questa attribuzione del dialetto massese ai dialetti toscani, non ha altre giustificazioni che di ordine geografico, essendo evidente, a un analisi di tipo linguistico, la scarsissime influenze del toscano, salvo nella zona d'immediata frontiera, come la fraz. di Montignoso, dove si può invece parlare di dialetto di transizione tra il toscano di versilia e i dialetti gallo-italici apuani.

As you say your dialect is of Transition From Gallo italic- to Tuscan;
in the area of Versilia instead is definitely tuscan

This is the way they speak in Versilia and also in Lunigiana maybe:
Mario Il Bagnino by Panariello :-D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1665qgcaAU&feature=related

BusyBee
21-06-11, 22:47
I've been there twice and loved it! I feel that Rome is a city where I would like to live for a few years...

Cimmerianbloke
10-07-11, 22:17
Went to Sardinia, Rimini and lately Torino and Cuneo, which I both recommend, amazing destinations to see another facet of Italy. I'd love to spend a couple of years in Roma, it's an idea maturing in my mind for quite some time. When the german winters will be too hard to bear...

Riccardo
11-07-11, 02:45
I've been there twice and loved it! I feel that Rome is a city where I would like to live for a few years...


Went to Sardinia, Rimini and lately Torino and Cuneo, which I both recommend, amazing destinations to see another facet of Italy. I'd love to spend a couple of years in Roma, it's an idea maturing in my mind for quite some time. When the german winters will be too hard to bear...

I'm 22 and it's 22 years living here in Roma! I can't stand the traffic anymore!!! Ahahahah!

Sybilla
13-07-11, 15:44
I'm 22 and it's 22 years living here in Roma! I can't stand the traffic anymore!!! Ahahahah!

I love Roma and I consider Latials our closest brothers in Italy. :D
Ps: Neapolitans then should shot themselves in the head for the traffic. :P

Ferreiro_
13-07-11, 20:44
Yes, I have been to Italy 7 times.
I have visited the following cities:
Rome, in my opinion the most beautiful city in Italy and the second in Europe after Paris.
Turin/Torino, elegant French-style city.
Milan/Milano, modern and bustling city.
Padova, Only I could see it at night.
Bologna, I liked it.
Venice, the second most beautiful city in Italy.
Verona, very intesting, with a lot of monuments.
Trieste, I didn't like. Trieste has a grand square by the sea, but the rest of the city wasn's nice for me. Sorry for trentinos.
Genova, typical coastal city of the Mediterranean sea, it reminded me some cities in Spain and Portugal (Porto). A lot of monuments too. Interesting but a bit shabby.
Florence/Firenze, I was a little disappointed. For me it is inferior to Rome or Venice.
Siena, very nice.
Napoli. This is the city in Italy I least liked, because although it has plenty of historical monuments, the city is in chaos, and is very neglected.
Sorrento. Nice place, totally different of Napoli.
Palermo. Similar to Napoli.
Catania, nice city, more modern and cleaner than Palermo.
Taormina, too tourists.

Riccardo
24-09-11, 01:36
I love Roma and I consider Latials our closest brothers in Italy. :D
Ps: Neapolitans then should shot themselves in the head for the traffic. :P

Hey, hey, hey! You couldn't offend me more calling me "Latial". Forza Roma!!!! xD =D =D =D

quaquaraqua
11-11-11, 19:49
yes i have visited italy, i live there :)

zanipolo
12-11-11, 01:03
Yes, I have been to Italy 7 times.
I have visited the following cities:
Rome, in my opinion the most beautiful city in Italy and the second in Europe after Paris.
Turin/Torino, elegant French-style city.
Milan/Milano, modern and bustling city.
Padova, Only I could see it at night.
Bologna, I liked it.
Venice, the second most beautiful city in Italy.
Verona, very intesting, with a lot of monuments.
Trieste, I didn't like. Trieste has a grand square by the sea, but the rest of the city wasn's nice for me. Sorry for trentinos.
Genova, typical coastal city of the Mediterranean sea, it reminded me some cities in Spain and Portugal (Porto). A lot of monuments too. Interesting but a bit shabby.
Florence/Firenze, I was a little disappointed. For me it is inferior to Rome or Venice.
Siena, very nice.
Napoli. This is the city in Italy I least liked, because although it has plenty of historical monuments, the city is in chaos, and is very neglected.
Sorrento. Nice place, totally different of Napoli.
Palermo. Similar to Napoli.
Catania, nice city, more modern and cleaner than Palermo.
Taormina, too tourists.

I agree Paris is better than Rome, but i dislike them both, its because I do not like cities which are over 500000 in population, their character is lost.

BYW trentinos are not from trieste , they are from Trento ( north italy in the alps), people from trieste are called triestini

Also, Cinque Terre is very nice in Liguria as well as Portovenere ( the castle there is used for the man in the iron mask movies)

Vallicanus
13-11-11, 10:27
Yes, I have been to Italy 7 times.
I have visited the following cities:
Rome, in my opinion the most beautiful city in Italy and the second in Europe after Paris.
Turin/Torino, elegant French-style city.
Milan/Milano, modern and bustling city.
Padova, Only I could see it at night.
Bologna, I liked it.
Venice, the second most beautiful city in Italy.
Verona, very intesting, with a lot of monuments.
Trieste, I didn't like. Trieste has a grand square by the sea, but the rest of the city wasn's nice for me. Sorry for trentinos.
Genova, typical coastal city of the Mediterranean sea, it reminded me some cities in Spain and Portugal (Porto). A lot of monuments too. Interesting but a bit shabby.
Florence/Firenze, I was a little disappointed. For me it is inferior to Rome or Venice.
Siena, very nice.
Napoli. This is the city in Italy I least liked, because although it has plenty of historical monuments, the city is in chaos, and is very neglected.
Sorrento. Nice place, totally different of Napoli.
Palermo. Similar to Napoli.
Catania, nice city, more modern and cleaner than Palermo.
Taormina, too tourists.

Bergamo (Upper Town) and Mantua are worth seeing too. So is the old town of Bolzano (Bozen in German) which has a beautiful Tyrolean/Austrian feel as do nearby towns like Ortisei and Merano.

I agree that Florence is overrated.:good_job:

zanipolo
13-11-11, 11:36
Bergamo (Upper Town) and Mantua are worth seeing too. So is the old town of Bolzano (Bozen in German) which has a beautiful Tyrolean/Austrian feel as do nearby towns like Ortisei and Merano.

I agree that Florence is overrated.:good_job:

agree fully

I forgot Bergamo, coming out of the rail station and looking straight up these very wide roads to the upper walled city.

Bassano ( Basan in venetian ) di Grappa is another nice town , with its nice bridge and looking into snow capped alps.

Lucca in north west tuscany is very nice.......make sure you scale the tower, view of the full town is great,...BTW , the only town in Italy where I got lost and I had a map with me as well

Knovas
13-11-11, 19:26
Two times, and very nice country ;)

I enjoyed visiting Pompeia!

PaschalisB
18-01-12, 15:48
I've been in Rome about a year ago for one day. I would really like to visit again and spend more time there.

Mars
20-04-14, 22:30
I've noticed most tour operators arrange Venice-Florence-Rome journeys; other beautiful parts of Italy are often snubbed. Such a pity!
Anyway, I'm from Genoa and most tourist come and visit the Acquario (ok, it's the largest in Europe, but not the most interesting attraction we've got... no way it is...), as others go the Cinque Terre. Every corner is touristically precious although. Damn those tour operators :(

Auld Reekie
23-05-14, 18:56
I love Italy. I left my heart there so I have to go back and claim it, it's probably at the baggage claim in Fiumicino. I've been to Milan, Turin, Verona, Venice, Bologna, Florence, Rome, Naples, Sorrento, Almalfi/Maiori and Campobasso. My family are from the commune of Ferrazzano of Campobasso, though, I am from NY. Molise has a very interesting history with the Samnites and Lombards. I really hope there will be more studies on Samnite culture. I hear a lot of negative things about Naples and the south generally speaking but I must say that Naples and the people from the mezzogiorno are some of the nicest and beautiful I've met. Naples is a jungle for sure, but it gets a bad rap. I like it's attitude and chaos. I can't say any city is overrated in Italy simply because I come from a small town that has the aesthetic beauty of an abandoned warehouse and charm of a cold sore.

Angela
23-05-14, 23:16
I love Italy. I left my heart there so I have to go back and claim it, it's probably at the baggage claim in Fiumicino. I've been to Milan, Turin, Verona, Venice, Bologna, Florence, Rome, Naples, Sorrento, Almalfi/Maiori and Campobasso. My family are from the commune of Ferrazzano of Campobasso, though, I am from NY. Molise has a very interesting history with the Samnites and Lombards. I really hope there will be more studies on Samnite culture. I hear a lot of negative things about Naples and the south generally speaking but I must say that Naples and the people from the mezzogiorno are some of the nicest and beautiful I've met. Naples is a jungle for sure, but it gets a bad rap. I like it's attitude and chaos. I can't say any city is overrated in Italy simply because I come from a small town that has the aesthetic beauty of an abandoned warehouse and charm of a cold sore.

Next time, give Liguria a try, Auld Reekie. (What does that name mean, btw?) There are the beautiful resort towns like Portofino and Santa Margherita, and the Cinque Terre, and Lerici as well, but you should visit Genova too, especially if you can appreciate the sometimes raffish charm of port cities. Genova is as unique in its way as Venezia.

The lakes, especially Como, are also beautiful, and you could spend a month and more just exploring the towns of Toscana and Umbria.

You'll thank me for it, everyone always does...:smile:

Auld Reekie
24-05-14, 05:28
I will go there next, actually I'm leaving for Italy soon. I hope to spend a lot of time in Liguria. I did stop through Bordighera for lunch once. Is that where you're from? I'm planning to go to Sienna to see the Palio and hopscotch all over Italy and hope to see Sardinia and Sicily as well. Also, Auld Reekie is an old name for Edinburgh. It means 'old smoke' and some attribute it to 'smell'. I've read you could smell Edinburgh before actually seeing it back in the 17th-18th centuries. I thought it was a charming name, not that I smell...I hope. :)

Angela
24-05-14, 16:31
I will go there next, actually I'm leaving for Italy soon. I hope to spend a lot of time in Liguria. I did stop through Bordighera for lunch once. Is that where you're from? I'm planning to go to Sienna to see the Palio and hopscotch all over Italy and hope to see Sardinia and Sicily as well. Also, Auld Reekie is an old name for Edinburgh. It means 'old smoke' and some attribute it to 'smell'. I've read you could smell Edinburgh before actually seeing it back in the 17th-18th centuries. I thought it was a charming name, not that I smell...I hope. :)

I'm to leave very soon to spend the summer there myself. :smile: I'm sure I'll be in Genova at one point or another, but home base is further east, near the Cinque Terre (great for hiking btw) and Lerici. It's an easy cross over to Sardinia from there. If you're going to be in Toscana, take the opportunity to see some of the smaller towns, or cross over into Umbria. Cortona is lovely, and you might like Perugia as well...it's a big student town because of the University for Foreigners there.

Auld Reekie
24-05-14, 17:01
I'm aching to be back! Maybe we'll cross paths and won't even know it haha :) I was going to ask a question on Italian authors but I'll post it separately later on a different thread before I ramble on.

Skerdilaidas
15-08-14, 05:39
Beautiful country!

slowder
12-10-14, 21:59
I was there twice. I seen Rome, Milan and Bergamo.

Sedlar
11-11-15, 10:03
I traveled almost over all Italy and I am liked it very much. I was especially impressed with Rome, Venice and Sicily. I highly recommend a visit to Italy and getting to know its history, culture and gastronomy, you will not remain indifferent, I assure you.

PIER1A
15-03-16, 10:52
I agree that it is most beautiful country in Europe... I would say it is self-contained civilization

Maleth
15-03-16, 11:04
I agree that it is most beautiful country in Europe... I would say it is self-contained civilization

I find it difficult to say the most beautiful as so many regions have so much beauty in their own way all over the continent and I am sure that there are so many that deserves visiting. What I can say is recently i had the opportunity to travel by car between Rome Bari and Naples and the landscape is breath taking especially in the mountain areas.

IrinaLoona
18-08-16, 05:48
For the first time it's better to take round trip.After that I decided which cities I wouldn't visit again - Rome, Napoli and Florence :)

Nerys
17-04-17, 18:56
Never went to Italy and my travel days are over,health issues, so I just watch Youtube for videos about Italy and all sorts of websites about Italy.

Gaga
19-04-17, 22:01
Mum's cousin owns a house near Turin [was originally in Arezzo], a close friend is Sicilian, and another friend lives in Florence. I've been to Italy a couple times over the years.

AdeoF
20-04-17, 01:34
Going to Rome for the 3rd time soon

jgg
20-04-17, 22:39
Been to Venice, Florence, Rome and Naples. Would like to go back to Rome and go to Sicily next time. So much history and beauty!

mixednutsjr
02-05-17, 18:13
I haven't been To Italy but plan on visiting in the upcoming month, sound like a great trip.

mitty
29-01-19, 02:06
Yes, my first visit was to Rome, in 1971. I was 18 with a very healthy appetite and thought the food was divine! Especially Spaghetti Amatriciana, my favourite. Although it never tastes good when I eat it here in Britain.
I visited Rome again in the 70's and that time we also stayed for a few nights at Picinisco, in the province of Frosinone. Beautiful mountain country, evening walks in October were a delight. I agree with former posts about the mountain people being introverts, although they were very pleasant and accommodating and also - something very strong and intriguing about them.
In the 90's I visited Naples, Sorrento and Positano. Also beautiful, but very crowded at the time we went.
I don't travel now due to medical reasons, but I would have loved to explore the north of the country.

MaraMe
14-02-19, 18:24
I could move in any part of Italy, in any moment :)

PT Tagus
09-03-19, 01:10
I have been to Italy just once. I visited Firenze last year.

Gash
20-03-19, 04:31
No, but I want to visit. Maybe even live there for a little bit if I like it.

Well, I was there as a kid with my family , we drove through the country and took a boat from Bari to Albania so I dont remember much. And dont consider it experiencing the country itself.

TardisBlue
20-03-19, 08:53
I've been to Italy once; it was very pleasant riding through the beautiful countryside. We stopped in Venezia, Bologna (where I had the best pizza ever), Firenze and Rome. I think my favourite place was Venezia. It's so lovely and the atmosphere is special, quite poetic and melancholic. I would also say a bit gloomy, but I think it's just because I'm influenced by horrific movies such as The Comfort of Strangers and Don't look now, which are set in Venezia.
My Mother went on a cruise around Sicily years ago. She didn't see much of it since they were at sea most of the time, but it was a wonderful journey.
I'd love to visit the Gulf of Napoli (esp. Pompei), the Amalfi coast, as well as Procida and Capri.

Angela
20-03-19, 20:38
I've been to Italy once, I traveled by motorbike with a friend (=> I was just a passenger :-)); it was very pleasant riding through the beautiful countryside. We stopped in Venezia, Bologna (where I had the best pizza ever), Firenze and Rome. I think my favourite place was Venezia. It's so lovely and the atmosphere is special, quite poetic and melancholic. I would also say a bit gloomy, but I think it's just because I'm influenced by horrific movies such as The Comfort of Strangers and Don't look now, which are set in Venezia.
My Mother went on a cruise around Sicily years ago. She didn't see much of it since they were at sea most of the time, but it was a wonderful journey.
I'd love to visit the Gulf of Napoli (esp. Pompei), the Amalfi coast, as well as Procida and Capri.

They're all spectacular. I've said before that if I got a terrible health diagnosis, I'd want to spend my last days in Ravello so I could go the gardens of the Villa Cimbrone and Villa Rufolo every day. Of course, it would be even better if I could buy the Villa Cimbrone and ban all weddings there for the duration. :)
Villa Cimbrone:
https://images.ctfassets.net/niwziy2l9cvz/2Ez3c1RK2A0QoeyQ84KEe0/a2ded28b344128c6db9ca37cae1729fd/amalfi-villa_cimbrone_gardens-1112x630.jpg

http://files.salsacdn.com/card/530_Hotel_Villa_Cimbrone/image/8_d.20170629120653.jpg
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&id=5A09D64B5C5FE6D9EF7157FA0CDB91F767D006DE&thid=OIP.wciiSsfNdgrwWtyt69ShbgHaE8&mediaurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.villacimbrone.com%2Fimag es%2Findex%2F4.jpg&exph=1280&expw=1920&q=Villa+Cimbrone&selectedindex=57&ajaxhist=0&vt=0&eim=0,6

The Infinity Terrace:

http://www.romeoandjuliet-weddings.com/images/amalfi-coast/ravello/villa-cimbrone/gallery/terrace-of-infinity-ravello.jpg

What I like particularly is that the promontory upon which the gardens sit, and a few nice little restaurants and small hotels too, is that it's a fifteen minute walk from the village. No exceptions: no cars, motos, nothing. That's why it's so peaceful.

We have some threads on the entire area. This is one of them:
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/32568-New-videos-of-the-Amalfi-coast-and-Capri?highlight=Amalfi+Coast







https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&id=5A09D64B5C5FE6D9EF7157FA0CDB91F767D006DE&thid=OIP.wciiSsfNdgrwWtyt69ShbgHaE8&mediaurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.villacimbrone.com%2Fimag es%2Findex%2F4.jpg&exph=1280&expw=1920&q=Villa+Cimbrone&selectedindex=57&ajaxhist=0&vt=0&eim=0,6



https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&id=5A09D64B5C5FE6D9EF7157FA0CDB91F767D006DE&thid=OIP.wciiSsfNdgrwWtyt69ShbgHaE8&mediaurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.villacimbrone.com%2Fimag es%2Findex%2F4.jpg&exph=1280&expw=1920&q=Villa+Cimbrone&selectedindex=57&ajaxhist=0&vt=0&eim=0,6

Yngwar
29-02-20, 00:17
I've always wanted to go to Rome to visit all its iconic places but because of this coronavirus epidemic, I'd better postpone my trip to this country. Which is pretty sad. I wanted to add my Italian trip to this app https://tripfrogapp.com/ and then share it with friends. But it seems not this year.

Palermo Trapani
29-02-20, 01:00
Yes, I have been to Italy 7 times.
I have visited the following cities:
Rome, in my opinion the most beautiful city in Italy and the second in Europe after Paris.
Turin/Torino, elegant French-style city.
Milan/Milano, modern and bustling city.
Padova, Only I could see it at night.
Bologna, I liked it.
Venice, the second most beautiful city in Italy.
Verona, very intesting, with a lot of monuments.
Trieste, I didn't like. Trieste has a grand square by the sea, but the rest of the city wasn's nice for me. Sorry for trentinos.
Genova, typical coastal city of the Mediterranean sea, it reminded me some cities in Spain and Portugal (Porto). A lot of monuments too. Interesting but a bit shabby.
Florence/Firenze, I was a little disappointed. For me it is inferior to Rome or Venice.
Siena, very nice.
Napoli. This is the city in Italy I least liked, because although it has plenty of historical monuments, the city is in chaos, and is very neglected.
Sorrento. Nice place, totally different of Napoli.
Palermo. Similar to Napoli.
Catania, nice city, more modern and cleaner than Palermo.
Taormina, too tourists.

Sono Stato a Roma e Sicilia. I Have not been to either Palermo or Catania. I drove through Palermo to get to Monreale and Cefaful , which are both in Provincial Palermo. Cefau is incredibly beautiful, but from what my fellow Sicilians say (they took me in as a compagno Siciliano), it has lots of tourist like Taormina. So places I was able to visit and not hit many tourist were Erice, Trapani (very beautiful place on a high mountain overlooking Sea and surrounding towns). Two great archelogoical sites in Trapani that are most see, IMHO, are Segesta and Selinunte. San Vito Lopo and Castellammare del Golfo also great (I did not visit Marsala, next time).

The Valley of the Temples in Agrigento was crowded but still a must see. If you are into driving into interior Sicily, drive to Palazzo Adriano (full disclosure, partial because my Mothers Family came from there). It is a remarkable city that has retained elements of the Byzantine Christian Tradition and the Latin/Roman Christian Tradition in the same town. In the "la piazza cittadina", the Byzantine Catholic Church is on one side and the Roman on the other. This town was also where Guiseppe Tornatore filmed "Cinema Paradiso (1988)" which one numerous awards all over the world.

Catania, with Etna, Ragusa (to see where the Late Sicilian Writer Andrea Camileri's Commissario Montalbano) is filmed, Syracuse and Messina will be next trip (hopefully next Summer), along with Return trip to Rome.

Palermo Trapani
29-02-20, 01:03
I'm 22 and it's 22 years living here in Roma! I can't stand the traffic anymore!!! Ahahahah!

How about the Roman Suburbs. I was in Rome last summer, along with Sicily, but I did not drive!!!

bigsnake49
01-03-20, 16:15
The first time we were there it was the main tourist places: Rome, Florence and Venice. It was very pleasant. We had a private guide/driver in each of those places. The second time we spent some time in Rome and then drove around to my wife's ancestral places and visited Rossano in Calabria. Stayed in a wonderful olive estate outside Rossano. We also spent time around Lecce. Driving around is great and all but since I was driving I did not get to see all that my wife did.

Jovialis
02-03-20, 00:50
Yes we consider ourselves Central Italians who had the misfortune to be annexed to the Southern State of the Two Sicilies. Characterially we are very different from Neapolitans and we have also porchetta which is a typical central Italian dish. :grin:
Characterially Abruzzesi are mountanious people and like all the mountanious peoples we are pretty introvert and the Marsican bear is often used to rapresent our character (introvert and very few talkative).
Anyway the favourite hobby of Abruzzesi is to hit Neapolitans and people from Bari so be careful to compare us with them :D We consider similar to Machisans, Latials and southern Abruzzo is close to Molise. Also the landscape of Abruzzo is very similar to Marche and Lazio.

Hello from the future, Abruzzo is genetically south. In fact, you can be modeled as 70% Barese (Time to start hitting yourself, but I'm sure you can find plenty of people in Naples and Bari, to do it for you.) :

https://i.imgur.com/wEB9YWY.png


"Central Italian" does not even exist genetically.


A sharp north-south division in cluster distribution was detected, the separation between northern and southern areas being shifted north along the peninsula (Fig. 1B (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/9/eaaw3492#F1)) (12 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/9/eaaw3492#ref-12)). The reported structure dismissed the possibility that the Central Italian populations differentiated from the Northern and Southern Italian groups (Fig. 1A (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/9/eaaw3492#F1)) (13 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/9/eaaw3492#ref-13)). Individuals from Central Italy were, in fact, assigned mostly to the Southern Italian clusters, except for samples from Tuscany, which grouped instead with the Northern Italian clusters (Fig. 1, A and B (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/9/eaaw3492#F1)) (12 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/9/eaaw3492#ref-12)). Contrary to previous results, no outliers were detected among the Northern Italian clusters (12 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/9/eaaw3492#ref-12)).

https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/9/eaaw3492

poor you.

Angela
02-03-20, 01:30
Hello from the future, Abruzzo is genetically south. In fact, you can be modeled as 70% Barese (Time to start hitting yourself, but I'm sure you can find plenty of people in Naples and Bari, to do it for you.) :

https://i.imgur.com/wEB9YWY.png


"Central Italian" does not even exist genetically.



poor you.
Incredible the crap people have posted. Who on earth doesn't know that the Abruzzesi are mostly Southern, and because so many of them moved to Lazio, much of Lazio is southern as well.

The break in the genetic cline in Italy is just south of Rome, which really only leaves Marche and Umbria as "central", and Toscana grouping with the North.