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I have been reading a few interesting articles about Fomorians, giant race from irish mitology and their connection with haplogroup I. They are described as population which lived in Ireland before arriving of Celts.
Is there any possibility that arriving Indoeuropeans have seen domestic Mesolitic population as giants and that's how giants as creatures appeared in european mythology. Mesolitic hunter gatherers must be much larger in body size than newcomers, because they lived in harsh climatic conditions. That actually normal difference in size could be very easily transformed into mythological dimensions, as we know how myths are produced. There is also one more thing. Indoeuropeans could not find explanation what way the monumental stones (dolmens, menhirs etc.) in Europe was built. They believed that only race of giants could made it. There is lot of ancient sources which describes that kind of opinion.
What is most interesting a lot of Celtic and Germanic legends describes mixing and interbreeding people and giants. Fomorians through marriages became part of goidelic society, the first irish king Bres was half Fomorian. In Norse mythology, giant race Jotuns also are mixing with Nordic gods and have children with them. In Slavic legends, superior God Svarog had a wife, giant women, Koleda which gave birth to all known slavic gods: Perun, Svantevid and Tatomir. The similar stories are found in Greek, Baltic, Basque mythologies. Giants are described as old population, different race which are confronted with Gods (Greek Gygantomachia) but later after defeat became incorporated into Panteon.
This could easily explained R1a and R1b domination in Europe and also combinations I1 and R1b, I2a and R1a, I2a and R1b... So, could old haplogroup I population of Europe be connected with mythological giants?
This is, of course, only hypothesis but possible one.
Is there any possibility that arriving Indoeuropeans have seen domestic Mesolitic population as giants and that's how giants as creatures appeared in european mythology. Mesolitic hunter gatherers must be much larger in body size than newcomers, because they lived in harsh climatic conditions. That actually normal difference in size could be very easily transformed into mythological dimensions, as we know how myths are produced. There is also one more thing. Indoeuropeans could not find explanation what way the monumental stones (dolmens, menhirs etc.) in Europe was built. They believed that only race of giants could made it. There is lot of ancient sources which describes that kind of opinion.
What is most interesting a lot of Celtic and Germanic legends describes mixing and interbreeding people and giants. Fomorians through marriages became part of goidelic society, the first irish king Bres was half Fomorian. In Norse mythology, giant race Jotuns also are mixing with Nordic gods and have children with them. In Slavic legends, superior God Svarog had a wife, giant women, Koleda which gave birth to all known slavic gods: Perun, Svantevid and Tatomir. The similar stories are found in Greek, Baltic, Basque mythologies. Giants are described as old population, different race which are confronted with Gods (Greek Gygantomachia) but later after defeat became incorporated into Panteon.
This could easily explained R1a and R1b domination in Europe and also combinations I1 and R1b, I2a and R1a, I2a and R1b... So, could old haplogroup I population of Europe be connected with mythological giants?
This is, of course, only hypothesis but possible one.