Hi to all,
I'm not sure that I'm posting this topic in the right place, however, I have seen so many maps and more maps that I sometimes feel as this is a cartography thread instead of genetics.
Has anyone who has tested their y-dna also worked /researched their paternal genealogy?
I, am female, so one of my brother did the y-dna test for our paternal line (father deceased).
I am also an avid family (for fun only) genealogist.
As I've mentioned on a previous post we are haplogroup G.
My brother has upgraded his markers to 67 and has also particapated in a y-dna project called. Walk Through The Y (Whit Athey et al).
My paternal line has been in the USA for a little over 300 years and I have a complete generation to generation papertrial line of descent to France, where I "brickwall", with my last known and well documented ancestor who was born circa 1560.
I have "other" genealogical information as to who this last known ancestor's father may have been, he was either the son of a "certain known male" , or his paternal cousin's son (Y-dna same).
However, my brother has 3 matches at 67 markers (with mutations), all share the same known surname (or varient) and according to a person who has a very good background in arriving at a probable Most Recent Common Ancestor, it is estimated that we all share a MRCA circa about 1100 c.e.
According to my research, my paternal line ancestor living circa 1100 in France had son's, and only the eldest (my line) could carry the titled name of the family. The younger son's "ate cake" or if very lucky married wealthy heiresses.
The 3 men that match us, no doubt, all descend (they all match each other closely) from one of the younger sons who went to England or UK (that is where they all have known ancestry), right after the conquest (1066) according to documentation. One of the younger sons descendants took his first name as their last name, and these three men, all share this same surname, and y-dna . One male has his last known ancestor here in the USA circa 1665. One man lives in England and his family never came to America. The other man lives in Scotland and he also has no known family in the USA.
Even though we have a papertrail gap of about 400 years plus, via y-dna testing and the information that we have researched confirms that we all descend from the same male ancestor living circa 1100 c.e. plus or minus. Since, I do have records of the family that we descend from on the straight paternal line, this collaborates the papertrail and y-dna cousinship.
BTW: none of us knew of each other until y-dna testing about 5 years ago.
Does anyone here on this forum have a genetic genealogy story to tell?
Also, keep in mind that no country is " genetically monolithic", peoples from all over the world (European in this case) have not only relocated, married or have migrated all over Europe. To, label any "group" as all coming from only one y-dna paternal or mtdna line is "simplistic" reckoning . We are all parts of a "whole".
Country bounderies are made by man not genetics. Genetics plays a role in the forming and parting of "so named/called countries.
Melusine
I'm not sure that I'm posting this topic in the right place, however, I have seen so many maps and more maps that I sometimes feel as this is a cartography thread instead of genetics.
Has anyone who has tested their y-dna also worked /researched their paternal genealogy?
I, am female, so one of my brother did the y-dna test for our paternal line (father deceased).
I am also an avid family (for fun only) genealogist.
As I've mentioned on a previous post we are haplogroup G.
My brother has upgraded his markers to 67 and has also particapated in a y-dna project called. Walk Through The Y (Whit Athey et al).
My paternal line has been in the USA for a little over 300 years and I have a complete generation to generation papertrial line of descent to France, where I "brickwall", with my last known and well documented ancestor who was born circa 1560.
I have "other" genealogical information as to who this last known ancestor's father may have been, he was either the son of a "certain known male" , or his paternal cousin's son (Y-dna same).
However, my brother has 3 matches at 67 markers (with mutations), all share the same known surname (or varient) and according to a person who has a very good background in arriving at a probable Most Recent Common Ancestor, it is estimated that we all share a MRCA circa about 1100 c.e.
According to my research, my paternal line ancestor living circa 1100 in France had son's, and only the eldest (my line) could carry the titled name of the family. The younger son's "ate cake" or if very lucky married wealthy heiresses.
The 3 men that match us, no doubt, all descend (they all match each other closely) from one of the younger sons who went to England or UK (that is where they all have known ancestry), right after the conquest (1066) according to documentation. One of the younger sons descendants took his first name as their last name, and these three men, all share this same surname, and y-dna . One male has his last known ancestor here in the USA circa 1665. One man lives in England and his family never came to America. The other man lives in Scotland and he also has no known family in the USA.
Even though we have a papertrail gap of about 400 years plus, via y-dna testing and the information that we have researched confirms that we all descend from the same male ancestor living circa 1100 c.e. plus or minus. Since, I do have records of the family that we descend from on the straight paternal line, this collaborates the papertrail and y-dna cousinship.
BTW: none of us knew of each other until y-dna testing about 5 years ago.
Does anyone here on this forum have a genetic genealogy story to tell?
Also, keep in mind that no country is " genetically monolithic", peoples from all over the world (European in this case) have not only relocated, married or have migrated all over Europe. To, label any "group" as all coming from only one y-dna paternal or mtdna line is "simplistic" reckoning . We are all parts of a "whole".
Country bounderies are made by man not genetics. Genetics plays a role in the forming and parting of "so named/called countries.
Melusine