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julia90
08-03-11, 01:31
taken from: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/4205552/National-Cultural-Profiles.html


FINLAND
Introduction: Approximately 70 per cent of Finnish land is covered by forest and another 10 per cent is water. Finland is famous for her 188,000 lakes – what is less well-known is that her territory also counts a total of 179,584 islands.
Values and beliefs: Finns are warm-hearted people, but they have a desire for solitude. They love freedom, but they curtail their own liberty with early closing of shops, limited access to alcohol, prohibiting baths after 10pm and taxing themselves to death. They are eager to internationalise but pretend they can’t learn languages. They make fine companions, but love to brood alone by a lake shore. They love their country, but seldom speak well of it.
Cultural black holes: The Finnish Cultural Black Hole is one of ultra-taciturnity, where opinions are strongly held, but often unvoiced.
Body language: Body language among Finnish males is generally minimal or zero. Finnish men express contentment or disappointment with a poker face. Women are much more expressive.
Manners and taboos: Finnish manners in general are characterised by reserve, reticence and modesty. The sauna is a place where they relax and become more talkative.
Self image: Finns believe they are the most honest of peoples, especially where meeting their financial commitments is concerned. EU statistics support this view, a recent survey indicated that Finnish companies normally pay their bills in 23 days. Italians, at the other end of the scale, take 90 days.
Gender issues: Finnish women are much more outgoing and approachable than the men and often command three or four languages. Their position in society and business is well-respected and superior to that of women in most other cultures.
How to empathise with them: Your best starting point is to get it crystal clear in your mind that a Finn is a formidable person. They defer politely to your cleverness but, in fact, they usually upstage you. The upstaging is done discreetly.
Your modest Finnish partners, so complimentary of your own attributes, turn out to be highly qualified technocrats with very solid assets. Their office, car and clothes may well be of better quality than yours, their house almost certainly will.
They have ne plus ultra standards of cleanliness, honesty, stamina, workmanship, hygiene, safety and education. In Finland you can drink tap water, doctors know how to cure you if you are ill, buses, trains and aeroplanes leave on time, there are no hurricanes.


FRANCE
Introduction: France is blessed by a good, temperate climate, generous space for agriculture and a fortunate population distribution.
Cultural black holes: The French believe that they are intellectually superior to any other nationality. The length and magnificence of their historical achievements leave the French convinced that they have a mission to teach and to civilise others. Their political, military and economic strengths may no longer predominate as they once did, but they perceive no diminishment or fading of their moral and didactic authority.
Concept of space: French people shake hands more often per day than perhaps any other nationality and when speaking stand slightly closer to each other than do the English.
Listening habits: French people pay full attention only if the speaker is charismatic, imaginative, clearly logical and represents authority.
Body language: Overt in the usual Latin manner. The French are particularly known for their shrugs and pouts.
Leadership style: In France, authority is centred around the chief executive. Top managers, are well-trained, charismatic and extremely autocratic. They often appear to consult with middle managers, technical staff – even workers, but decisions are generally personal and orders are topdown.
Language of management: French managers are clinically direct in their approach and see no advantage in ambiguity or ambivalence. The French language is a crisp, incisive tongue, a kind of verbal dance or gymnastics of the mouth, which presses home its points with an undisguised, logical urgency. The French education system, from childhood, places a premium on articulateness and eloquence of expression. Unlike Japanese, Finnish or British children, French children are rarely discouraged from being talkative. In the French culture loquacity is equated with intelligence and silence does not have a particularly golden sheen. The French language, unquestionably, is the chief weapon wielded by managers in directing, motivating and dominating their staff. Masterful use of language and logic implies, in their understanding, masterful management.
How to empathise with them: Recognize French historical achievement, the riches of their culture and their sense of mission. They consider themselves human, witty and intellectually superior. If you open up to them, they will follow suit, cautiously. Be witty if you can, they respond well to liveliness. To gain acceptance you should behave formally, show respect for the hierarchy and stick to logic at all times. However, you should also show a ‘human’ side and take the opportunity to have a good long talk, though never criticise the French nation or its heroes.


GERMANY
Introduction: Germany is characterized by decentralisation and compartmentalisation. The 16 states (Länder) have considerable autonomy and different lifestyles.
Cultural black holes: The relatively harmless German cultural black hole is national self-trust. This means that a German who meets another German at the other end of the world may place a great deal of trust in him or her, without necessarily checking things.
Communication patterns: The German communication style is frank, open, direct and often loud. Truth comes before diplomacy. Many foreigners are surprised by the directness and honesty of Germans. Arguments are well-thought out, logical and weighty.
Concept of space: Germans need less personal space or independence at work than Scandinavians or Americans, but they enthusiastically protect their rights to what space they have. It should not be reduced, interfered with or invaded by others.
Negotiating characteristics: Germans will arrive at the meeting well-dressed and with a disciplined appearance. You must match this. They will observe hierarchical seating and order of speaking. They compartmentalise their arguments, each member speaking about his/her speciality. They expect your side to do the same. They do not interfere with a colleague’s remarks and generally show good team-work throughout.
Listening habits: Germans have a long attention span when absorbing information and especially like repetition and plenty of background information.
Manners and taboos: The right to privacy, both at home and in one’s office, is paramount. Eccentricity, ostentation, unpunctuality and disobedience are frowned upon.
How to empathise with them: Be frank, truthful and as honest as possible. Respect their bluntness and accept criticism when it is directed towards you. Avoid irony, sarcasm and quick wit. The people of Germany do have a sense of humour, but they do not use it at work. What amuses a German will not get all other cultures laughing too.


GREECE
Introduction: Greece is a mountainous country and comprises a mainland and more than 400 islands, over 150 of which are inhabited.
Values and beliefs: Greek consciousness is keenly aware that the Greek city-state period laid the basis for Western European civilisation and the liberal democracies. Greeks believe strongly in their intellectual powers, intuition and sense of artistry. Self-image is of a cultural, eloquent, sophisticated European, experienced in social and commercial matters.
Concept of space: Greece is a tactile culture. Its distance of comfort is similar to the Italian - hugging and kissing are common.
Communication patterns: Greeks are verbose, theatrical and intense. Greeks believe in their own powers of oratory. They use rational argument like the French, but spice it up with emotive content.
Body language: Eye contact has been measured as the strongest in Europe. Special Greek features are a slight upward nod of the head (meaning “no”) and tilting the head to either side (meaning “yes, of course”).
Behaviour at meetings: Greeks hold many lengthy, argumentative and intense discussions amongst themselves. Non-Greeks will find them extremely loquacious, digressive, often volatile. They respect logic, however, and are skilled at pleasing (and often manipulating) other nationalities. They can display great understanding and charm, often appearing extremely flexible and accommodating. One has, however, to listen carefully as they extract concessions smartly when an opening occurs. They are normally well-dressed, neat and well-composed.
Concept of status: There is great respect for education, qualifications and intellectual prowess on the one hand, wealth and family connections on the other.
Manners and taboos: The multi-active nature of the Greeks means that they are often late for appointments and, when they give interviews, let them run on endlessly, even if someone else is waiting. Elderly people have a lot of authority and are not kept waiting. Greeks are excellent hosts and their hospitality can be embarrassing.


ITALY
Introduction: The long narrow peninsula, which comprises the Italian mainland, is in the shape of a leg, which appears to be kicking a triangle into the Mediterranean Sea. This ‘triangle’ is Sicily, the largest island in the whole of the Mediterranean. Sardinia is another huge Italian island.
Cultural black holes: Italians are culturally driven to loud conversation and persuasion. They are convinced that they can persuade anybody to do anything, as long as they can get them in a face-to-face situation and hold their attention long enough.
Concept of time: Punctuality in Milan means they are up to 20 minutes late, in Rome half an hour and in the south 45 minutes. You will not be able to change this, except in a fixed-hours factory or office environment. You must therefore adapt. Be prepared to wait 15-45 minutes before your Italian counterpart arrives to let you into their office.
Manners and taboos: Italian tolerance is legendary. Machismo is, however, endemic, especially in the south and in Sicily. Questions of personal and family honour assume great importance. Throughout the country, men can be exceedingly jealous if their wives are approached in too casual a manner.
Negotiating characteristics: Faced with obstacles, non-co-operation or lack of movement, the Italian will rapidly re-package the offer or approach the issue from a fresh angle.
Language of management: Melodious, elegant, aesthetic, pliant, and seductive are some of the adjectives that best describe the Italian language, known the world over for its pleasing effect on the ear. These terms indeed reflect the style of Italian managers as they seek to instruct, influence, persuade and perhaps charm their staff to comply with their requirements.
Listening habits: Italians are sympathetic listeners, but are often restless as they ‘think ahead’ of the speaker. They are impatient to join the dialogue that will define the relationship between the two people.
Motivation factors: Confide in them as much as you dare. This includes revealing family details, hopes, aspirations, disappointments and problems, particulars of past life, education, holidays and so on. They will reveal much of their private life to you. Listen sympathetically.


SPAIN
Introduction: Spain is one of Europe’s oldest countries and dominated European politics and Catholicism for centuries. Remember that there are several Spains (Castile, Andalucia, Galicia, Catalonia, the Basques). Make sure you know where people’s allegiances lie.
Working hours: The working day is not an unbroken period of concentrated effort in the sense of the northern European or North American day. Coffee breaks with fellow employees, non-work conversations with colleagues and long meetings that shade into social affairs are all seen by the Spanish as valid parts of the working day.
Concept of time: Spaniards are classically multi-active, not linear-active. That is to say, the more things they can do or handle at the same time, the happier and more fulfilled they feel.
Body language: Spanish body language is among the most overt of all cultures. Flashing eyes, exaggerated facial expressions, extensive use of hands, arms and shoulders are typical. Eye contact is along with the Greek, the strongest in Europe.
Listening habits: Spaniards are not dedicated listeners. They read less than any other people in Europe and pay little attention to the content of presentations. They do, however, watch you carefully and sum you up by observing your physical characteristics, your mannerisms and your willingness to participate in the congenial and jocular socialising which will inevitably follow.
Motivation factors: Socialise as energetically (and as late) as possible. Relationship building in Spain is nearly always associated with eating and drinking.
Manners and taboos: Entry into the EU has obliged business people to align their waking and working hours with the rest of Europe and the siesta tradition is dying fast.
How to empathise: Deference to a Spaniard’s dignity, respect for his station, personality and soul, is the key to his co-operation, alliance and affection.

Carlitos
08-03-11, 02:03
I am willing to allow Europe to change the times we do not think that we always had the current schedule, once we had the same times that in other European countries, but do not know what happened during a food shortage, the population expected to ships carrying food arrived, called the rice boat, "and as the boats came too late with the food, people got used to prepare the evening meal is not certain whether this explanation is true or a legend, but all I ask to Europe, Merkel Sarkozy or whoever, is that working hours, trade etc. change once in Spain, I can not stand. The shops close at 8:30 pm, including Carrefour's after 10 pm and half-lowered blinds some people into buying. In Spain in factories, offices e.t.c. employees often rotate constantly, to get crazy, and have not yet been realized in Spain our politicians that meal times are a drag on the whole, this has to change.


On the rest seems quite topical as ever and as for Spain observed that there remains a great unknown. Dunno, but with regard to Spain has come a moment that I saw Otello. Personally I can not do two things at once and I hate social activities, in fact I hate them, unless they are with people of my choice osea good people. The Spanish rule is not as joyful as we think, is bad enough milk, so it is of the best workers in the world, is faithful and hate speech and social injustices.

Frankly that kind of writing that are posted are an attempt, full of clichés and inaccuracies, I do not know if they are written by the same person, but are quite embarrassing, and I do not say because they have criticized, the critics love me and criticize my country But with certain criteria and accuracy.

julia90
08-03-11, 02:08
Frankly that kind of writing that are posted are an attempt, full of clichés and inaccuracies, I do not know if they are written by the same person, but are quite embarrassing, and I do not say because they have criticized, the critics love me and criticize my country But with certain criteria and accuracy.

well, actually there might be some truth, i know that they were taken from a site that gives its opinion on cultural behaviours, to the various entreprises around the world.

Neander
08-03-11, 02:33
Albania

- The highest peak of Balkans, "Maja e Jezercës" 2694 m
- The first atheist country in the World history, Atheism was oficial "religion"
- Over 500 km sea-shore
- Neutral country during WW2
- The only kingdom of Balkan peninsula which fought Ottoman Empire during 15-th century

Carlitos
08-03-11, 02:37
well, actually there might be some truth, i know that they were taken from a site that gives its opinion on cultural behaviours, to the various entreprises around the world.

Must be a website from a country that does not know the world, perhaps a young country, "USA Perhaps?, or it could be one of the countries of the world deified UK "maybe?, France do not think appropriate, are so godlike.

^ lynx ^
08-03-11, 11:51
Regarding the working time schedule, here is a more comprehensive source: http://www.fedee.com/workinghours.shtml

In Spain, we do not have the work schedule from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. common in the rest of the EU, anyways. The Spanish workday (with its two-hour lunch) lasts until 7 or 8 at night.

Regards.

julia90
08-03-11, 14:46
Albania

- The highest peak of Balkans, "Maja e Jezercës" 2694 m
- The first atheist country in the World history, Atheism was oficial "religion"
- Over 500 km sea-shore
- Neutral country during WW2
- The only kingdom of Balkan peninsula which fought Ottoman Empire during 15-th century

Albaina is interesting, i think if you want to grow your economy you can use sea turism, you have beautiful beaches and a mediterranean climate with a montainous interior landscape
http://sites.etleboro.com/files/photo/4908_Pogradec,%20Albania.jpg
http://europebytrain.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/south_albania_beach.jpg
http://www.albaniainmoto.it/img/albania1.jpg
Since recently i didn't know albania had beautiful landscape until an albainian acquaintance of mine (there are many here in italy, it's the seond ethnic group behind romenians) told me thet had beautiful seas and mountains

julia90
08-03-11, 14:50
Regarding the working time schedule, here is a more comprehensive source: http://www.fedee.com/workinghours.shtml

In Spain, we do not have the work schedule from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. common in the rest of the EU, anyways. The Spanish workday (with its two-hour lunch) lasts until 7 or 8 at night.

Regards.

it's natural if for example in april may you have dawn past nine p.m.
but indeed you are a bit slow in serving in some restaurants (it's quite the same in southern italy).
i think it's better sometimes not to rush too much, when is not necessary.

Carlitos
08-03-11, 15:57
Spain has many decades devoted to tourism, the service is great if it is true that now with the incorporation of immigrants in restaurants, bars, etc. the service has deteriorated.

julia90
08-03-11, 16:07
Spain has many decades devoted to tourism, the service is great if it is true that now with the incorporation of immigrants in restaurants, bars, etc. the service has deteriorated.

well when in madrid i had nothing to complain about custom care, that's why turism works there.
i was talking about organization, but i think in the restaurant field it's not necessary to rush.

however apart from the spanish part of the article, do you agee with the other cultural profiles?

^ lynx ^
08-03-11, 16:11
it's natural if for example in april may you have dawn past nine p.m.
but indeed you are a bit slow in serving in some restaurants (it's quite the same in southern italy).
i think it's better sometimes not to rush too much, when is not necessary.

Most of the workers in our restaurants are south american immigrants. There's even a popular tv character about it:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MUe_sAZU7Ok/ScERJwaDJfI/AAAAAAAAAL8/eRaHfWD1Vrw/s400/machu.jpg

Regards.

Carlitos
08-03-11, 16:14
well when in madrid i had nothing to complain about custom care, that's why turism works there.
i was talking about organization, but i think in the restaurant field it's not necessary to rush.

however apart from the spanish part of the article, do you agee with the other cultural profiles?

Not at all like what he says about other countries.

Listening habits: Italians Are sympathetic listeners, But Are Often restless as they 'think ahead' of the speaker. They Are impatient to join the dialogue That will define the Relationship Between the two people.

If I have to be guided by this, then I'm Italian, and I have known Italians were not. I do not know, but it is absurd to millions of people corseted containing a country identical characteristics or behaviors, although members of the same country and more today when Western countries increasingly resemble each other more.

Sirius2b
08-03-11, 16:45
Most of the workers in our restaurants are south american immigrants. There's even a popular tv character about it:



For me, the Spanish Character is reflected in that other great contribution of Spain to the World....

http://catcahelpanimals.org/images/bullfight48.jpg

I song of Rammstein that I love...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pod5vu_t7aA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pod5vu_t7aA)

^ lynx ^
08-03-11, 16:51
Stop ruining threads with your complexes and obssesion towards spaniards, sirious.

Regards.

I'm reporting your disgusting messages to the moderators.

Sirius2b
08-03-11, 16:54
Stop ruining threads with your complexes and obssesion towards spaniards, sirious.

Regards.

I'm reporting your disgusting messages to the moderators.

I the way you will also explain why you had to start taking about South American waiters, in a thread that started so good... freak.

(Besides, I am glad that there are almost not Mexicans in Spain.)

"Best Regards".

Carlitos
08-03-11, 16:58
Sirius2b, that is demagoguery. It is true that employers hire in Spain for its restaurants to immigrants who have never served a table and the result is that the service has deteriorated, is a reality, not an attack on immigrants.


Bullfighting involves: Art, culture, tradition, history, veterinary medicine, zoology, nutrition, biology, industry have also to preserve the large meadows that are preserved thanks to the breeding of fighting bulls, which no bullfighting would cease to exist, is very complicated issue and not have to understand an alien, nor is it quick, it's an issue our own, but also has critics in Spain, bullfighting abducted by currents introduced in Spain in past decades by Europeans who neither know nor understand what that is bullfighting, also say that I have never seen a bullfight, because I was bored, but I defend that tradition and powerful Spanish industry and importance to our country.

There are great inventions Spanish, but maybe the Spanish people and Spain has had a less adequate political circumstances with ongoing political instability that have not been the breeding ground for inventions suitable for further development, it is today and even Spain is threatened by regional nationalism, a few Spanish regions that are authentic fish hindrance to the development of the nation.

^ lynx ^
08-03-11, 17:00
I merely stated a FACT. You only have to go to Madrid or Barcelona and see it for yourself.

Take care of your complexes.

Regards.


(Besides, I am glad that there are almost not Mexicans in Spain.)

Thanks USA for that.

Reinaert
08-03-11, 17:16
Sirius2b, that is demagoguery. It is true that employers hire in Spain for its restaurants to immigrants who have never served a table and the result is that the service has deteriorated, is a reality, not an attack on immigrants.


Bullfighting involves: Art, culture, tradition, history, veterinary medicine, zoology, nutrition, biology, industry have also to preserve the large meadows that are preserved thanks to the breeding of fighting bulls, which no bullfighting would cease to exist, is very complicated issue and not have to understand an alien, nor is it quick, it's an issue our own, but also has critics in Spain, bullfighting abducted by currents introduced in Spain in past decades by Europeans who neither know nor understand what that is bullfighting, also say that I have never seen a bullfight, because I was bored, but I defend that tradition and powerful Spanish industry and importance to our country.



Bullfighting is disgusting.
The bull is first damaged to let him slowly bleed.
The muscles get slowly out of control.
It's a sadistic way to abuse an animal.

If you would have any courage in your body,
you would fight a bull with bare hands.

There is a story about a Dutchman who was a bit drunk,
that entered the arena right at the start of the fight.
He walked right into the bull, and kissed him on the nose.
Than he started to cuddle the beast, and that made itself
feel comfortable.
The Spanish public was mad as hell.
The bull was taken out of the fight,
and lived happy ever after. :innocent:

Rastko Pocesta
09-03-11, 19:28
Agreed! The barbaric practice of bullfighting which is completely unethical and contrary to all moral principles has to be prohibited in the whole World. Just as the sadistic torture of horses in Spain.

Sirius2b
09-03-11, 19:45
Bullfighting involves: Art, culture, tradition, history, veterinary medicine, zoology, nutrition, biology, industry have also to preserve the large meadows that are preserved thanks to the breeding of fighting bulls, which no bullfighting would cease to exist, is very complicated issue and not have to understand an alien, nor is it quick, it's an issue our own, but also has critics in Spain, bullfighting abducted by currents introduced in Spain in past decades by Europeans who neither know nor understand what that is bullfighting, also say that I have never seen a bullfight, because I was bored, but I defend that tradition and powerful Spanish industry and importance to our country.

@Carlitos, of the Spaniards in these Forums, you are the most kind and sober... I have no problem with you.

Now, I agree that there is a lot of "tradition" and "mystique" that surround Bullfighting that is dear to many well born Spaniards... and I remind, that much less ritualized and artistic torturing and killing of animals, was common place "entertaiment" in Europe, until some centuries ago.

(Has been going, little by little).

But time passes and even Bullfighting Spanish style, the most "developed" of such customs, have to be judged with the "standards and values of our times".

I really regret to say this to you... I would have prefered to face @Lynx or @Wilhelm is such a theme.


There are great inventions Spanish, but maybe the Spanish people and Spain has had a less adequate political circumstances with ongoing political instability that have not been the breeding ground for inventions suitable for further development, it is today and even Spain is threatened by regional nationalism, a few Spanish regions that are authentic fish hindrance to the development of the nation.

I know that Spain had a lot of great people that made a lot of contributions to our world...

And (why not to say it?) Spain was a vehicle for the transmission of Mexican / Amerindians contributions to the World.

We all do what we could do... and nowadays we all make contributions to science and technology, even if finally someone takes (dully or undully) the credit for something.

The thing we should do, is to look at ourselves with humility and objectivity...

++++++++++++++++++++

Regarding the animosity between Spanish regions... I agree it has played a role.


Best Regards.

^ lynx ^
09-03-11, 19:49
mexiCarlitos is NOT spaniard. He does not write spanish as a spaniard but as a latin american. So you can't stop with your pitiful ***** show.

You're giving a pathetic image of the latin american people in this forum. How embarrassing. :useless:

Regards.

Reinaert
09-03-11, 20:26
mexiCarlitos is NOT spaniard. He does not write spanish as a spaniard but as a latin american. So you can't stop with your pitiful ***** show.

You're giving a pathetic image of the latin american people in this forum. How embarrassing. :useless:

Regards.

Please stop your ********.
I made a comment on bull abuse.

Answer that please!

Don't you have the guts to do that?
Are Spanish people cowards?
Who can only yell cross words?

You still owe me an apologize for the word "buffoon"...

But I have a lot of patience..

Sirius2b
09-03-11, 20:56
mexiCarlitos is NOT spaniard. He does not write spanish as a spaniard but as a latin american. So you can't stop with your pitiful ***** show.


Newsflash!!... ancient Celtic Artifact, found in Spain...

http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/112010/small_trollface%20sculpture.jpg

^ lynx ^
09-03-11, 21:07
Yes panchis, of course, I am the *****. And there's no corruption in Mexico or violence against women in Latin America, btw.

Wilhelm
09-03-11, 21:14
Newsflash!!... ancient Celtic Artifact, found in Spain...

http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/112010/small_trollface%20sculpture.jpg



http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Z0wloP7__sw/THavD5_5PpI/AAAAAAAABx8/A6qrl8xIqRY/s1600/crying-baby.jpg


You are making me cry !! Stop, ok ? How can you laugh at our Celticity ? You evil person !!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_NBsznjqWpfI/TMrltSqc1KI/AAAAAAAAEKw/wdicOUh5uRU/s320/crying_baby2.jpg

Reinaert
09-03-11, 22:51
Bla bla bla
The song of the Spanish *****....

True Crybabies.

Carlitos
09-03-11, 23:30
Agreed! The barbaric practice of bullfighting which is completely unethical and contrary to all moral principles has to be prohibited in the whole World. Just as the sadistic torture of horses in Spain.

The bull, also called bull designates bull male specimens selected and bred for use in different bullfights, as the bull or bulls. It comes from native breeds of the Iberian Peninsula, known as "Iberian Trunk", which from time immemorial, led the most primitive forms of bullfighting. Some experts believe that is the direct descendant of the uro [citation needed], the ancestor of all existing breeds, and that in addition to its hardiness and its wildlife, he shares many phenotypic characteristics. Other experts question whether it is a breed of cattle than that of the common bull and cow (Bos taurus). Is characterized by defense atavistic instincts and temperament, summarized in the "bravery" and physical attributes such as large antlers and a powerful forward locomotor higher than those of other specimens of cattle.



The Spanish bulls are happier than calves from Belgrade



The bull is a gregarious animal, which is safety and shelter in a pack. After birth, before weaning, the calf will live eight or nine months nurtured and protected by his mother. Since sexual maturity occurs at 16 months ago, shortly after the year are separated males and females, which, from that moment, live in different enclosures. The different ages are referred to specific names: yearlings (one year) eral (two years), Utrera (three years), cuatreños (four years) and cinqueños (five years).

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=-8413279253900659983&hl=es&fs=true

In this documentary, "The bull friend" can be seen that our Spanish bulls live better than calves from Belgrade and die with a lot more dignity.

Reinaert
09-03-11, 23:35
Bullshit talk from spain!

Stop spamming your manure!

^ lynx ^
09-03-11, 23:38
Reinfart, sabemos que eres otro inmigrante acomplejado por los problemas que asolan tu continente.

Puedes dejar de disimular.

Wilhelm
09-03-11, 23:52
By the way, bullfighting is also very popular in southern France, more than in Northern Spain certainly, and not necessarily near Spain. This is Nimes, France :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0VWKGgbTs0

http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/52831595.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FDE8EAFFA3B40F3B86 A9F24EB3DC2D8F8BF00C46804A456615B01E70F2B3269972


http://www.europealacarte.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/nimes-4.jpg

http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/52831598.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FDE8EAFFA3B40F3B86 B5C4CD97347FF0C65DA34ABCE1927A5EB01E70F2B3269972

Carlitos
10-03-11, 00:16
As the photographs show, the French love of bullfighting.

Cambrius (The Red)
10-03-11, 00:55
Bullfighting has some level of popularity in Southern France but not in the northern regions. As far as I know, there is no bullfighting in Northern Spain or Central and Northern Portugal.

Carlitos
10-03-11, 01:07
Bullfighting has some level of popularity in Southern France but not in the northern regions. As far as I know, there is no bullfighting in Northern Spain or Central and Northern Portugal.





Basque Country
In Euskadi, there are 16 active arenas among which that of Vista Alegre in Bilbao and San Sebastian Illumbe in both first, and those in Vitoria, Eibar and Tolosa, second category. Are held annually between 30 and 40 celebrations. In particular, last season took place 48. In May, he raised with the lehendakari ban the party but it was outright saying "cheers, interest and tradition" behind the world of bullfighting in Euskadi.

As in neighboring Navarra in Bilbao was traditional that the groups would reach the bullring brass bands and contribute to the merriment of the festivities of Semana Grande. The tradition continues in Vitoria where paseillo blouses make up the bullring during the festival of the Virgen Blanca, reports David Miranda.

Asturias
Bullfights in the Plaza de Gijón, second category, awarded annually to 38,800 spectators. Meanwhile, in Oviedo, also second, coalesce to just over 10,000.

Aragon
The Aragonese enjoy in their provincial capitals in a square-class-Zaragoza-and two second-Teruel and Huesca. Over 82,000 spectators attend each year to the Plaza Zaragoza, known as 'The Mercy'. Meanwhile, Teruel and Huesca not exceed 20,000. In total, 77 Aragon celebrations held each year on their wheels.


Galicia
In Galicia Pontevedra can only celebrate bullfights in a square in the second category. With some 25 clubs and over 500 members, there are a social tradition about bullfighting and the San Roque bullring was opened in 1892 and will accommodate up to 7,800 locations, "which for years has been a stalwart José Tomás Victorino and livestock, reports Lara Varela. In total, 29,868 spectators attended the Festival. In La Coruna, which has a multipurpose room in 1991 with capacity for 8,000 spectators, was held an average of 6.5 runs per year, Lugo, one, and in Orense 1.13.


Cantabria
Santander has a bullring in the second category with a history dating back to the late nineteenth century. In 2007 was nearly full of 'no entry' for all celebrations. He wrestled 46 cows, with an average of 10,548 viewers per run. 93.3% of their villages were occupied on each evening of celebration. In total, over 10,548 people a year passed by their lines and steps.

But Santander is not the only tasks that can be seen in Cantabria. That same year there were 21 runs in all its territory (approximately 126 cows).

Castilla y León
The most important bullfights are the University of Salamanca in September, the bulls in the town of Segovia Cuellar, cutting contests, the controversial tradition of the Toro de la Vega Tordesillas (Valladolid) and the Carnaval del Toro City Rodrigo.

Apart from the party itself, Salamanca concentrated 178 of the 241 farms that exist in the Community, which represents one-fifth of those in Spain. The future of the bull and the ecosystem of the rangelands depends largely on the continuity of the party. In Castilla y León, where each year there are more than 2,500 bullfights, nearly 400,000 hectares of pasture dedicated

Cambrius (The Red)
10-03-11, 01:37
I have never encountered anything in Galicia or Asturias suggesting that bullfighting is practiced there regularly. If this activity goes on, it is pretty minor.

julia90
10-03-11, 01:41
i think foreigners shouldn't have a say in traditional festivities.
it's like those animalists who complain that siena's horses are treated wrong, and that the palio should be banned for using horses etc.etc.

it's a tradition, there's nothing wrong with it.

Cambrius (The Red)
10-03-11, 03:33
i think foreigners shouldn't have a say in traditional festivities.
it's like those animalists who complain that siena's horses are treated wrong, and that the palio should be banned for using horses etc.etc.

it's a tradition, there's nothing wrong with it.

I agree...

Carlitos
10-03-11, 16:20
I remember that bullfighting is not a creation of Andalusia.

Mzungu mchagga
11-03-11, 02:48
GERMANY
Introduction: Germany is characterized by decentralisation and compartmentalisation. The 16 states (Länder) have considerable autonomy and different lifestyles.
Cultural black holes: The relatively harmless German cultural black hole is national self-trust. This means that a German who meets another German at the other end of the world may place a great deal of trust in him or her, without necessarily checking things.
Communication patterns: The German communication style is frank, open, direct and often loud. Truth comes before diplomacy. Many foreigners are surprised by the directness and honesty of Germans. Arguments are well-thought out, logical and weighty.
Concept of space: Germans need less personal space or independence at work than Scandinavians or Americans, but they enthusiastically protect their rights to what space they have. It should not be reduced, interfered with or invaded by others.
Negotiating characteristics: Germans will arrive at the meeting well-dressed and with a disciplined appearance. You must match this. They will observe hierarchical seating and order of speaking. They compartmentalise their arguments, each member speaking about his/her speciality. They expect your side to do the same. They do not interfere with a colleague’s remarks and generally show good team-work throughout.
Listening habits: Germans have a long attention span when absorbing information and especially like repetition and plenty of background information.
Manners and taboos: The right to privacy, both at home and in one’s office, is paramount. Eccentricity, ostentation, unpunctuality and disobedience are frowned upon.
How to empathise with them: Be frank, truthful and as honest as possible. Respect their bluntness and accept criticism when it is directed towards you. Avoid irony, sarcasm and quick wit. The people of Germany do have a sense of humour, but they do not use it at work. What amuses a German will not get all other cultures laughing too.


I think the description is really good and accurate! :good_job:
I wouldn't find myself in every behaviour mentioned, but it's true that I have to adjust myself to these points in every day life.



PS: I wasn't aware of the fact that Germans trust each other more than others do when abroad, but yeah, it's true! Many people here are obsessed with genetics, would you perhaps give some explanation that Germans are from their autosomal DNA more closely related to each other than other individuals of European nations are? Perhaps that's also the reason why we go so easily horny for foreigners :grin:. (even if many don't want to admit it!)

julia90
11-03-11, 02:54
I think the description is really good and accurate! :good_job:
I wouldn't find myself in every behaviour mentioned, but it's true that I have to adjust myself to these points in every day life.



PS: I wasn't aware of the fact that Germans trust each other more than others do when abroad, but yeah, it's true! Many people here are obsessed with genetics, would you perhaps give some explanation that Germans are from their autosomal DNA more closely related to each other than other individuals of European nations are? Perhaps that's also the reason why we go so easily horny for foreigners :grin:.

my immage of germans is that they are loyal people, on which you can count, you can trust them, when they say something is what they think, and if they say they do something, they will do it.
i think they are great workers, and rational as their language is.
it's curious that german language has produced many philosophers, would it have something to do about language structure?

Mzungu mchagga
11-03-11, 03:00
my immage of germans is that they are loyal people, on which you can count, you can trust them, when they say something is what they think, and if they say they do something, they will do it.
i think they are great workers, and rational as their language is.
it's curious that german language has produced many philosophers, would it have something to do about language structure?

mmh, don't know... :thinking:
I don't think philosophy has anything to do with language. Thoughts and expressing these thoughts are two different things. I don't know why Germans do or did so much philosophy, perhaps it's tradition and always passed on. But why it started, I have to philosophize about it... :laughing:

Sirius2b
11-03-11, 06:53
it's curious that german language has produced many philosophers, would it have something to do about language structure?

Actually the German language is very interesting. It is not, for example, like most modern Latin derived languages, or even other germanic languages, of the syntactic structure SVO (Subjet-Verb-Object).

"I want some ice cream"

Japanese, is an example of another case, SOV...

(That's why "Master Joda" speaks so funny :innocent: )

However, the general structure of a German sentence is:

V1 + S + O + V2

That is, the German predicate is divided (being a common case, that the last part is empty), and idealy encloses the whole sentence.

However, it is common that some part of the sentence that you want to stress goes out of the frame, and take the first place... It is not, the stupid "rule" that many times is taught to, say, Spanish speakers that want to learn German "verb goes always in the second place"... that only prevents to understand early the deep German structure.

I have read some Germans that say that is the structure of their language, the reason why they have to be very attentive: The predicate is not fully expressed until the whole sentence is spelled out. You should not interrupt your interlocutor by early "guessing" of what he/she want to express.

Well, just a Syntax comment I wanted to make...

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Does the structure of German propells Phylosophy or a better intellectual understanding of things?

It's a provocative question.

(That people like Karl Popper denies).

Reinaert
11-03-11, 19:42
Reinfart, sabemos que eres otro inmigrante acomplejado por los problemas que asolan tu continente.

Puedes dejar de disimular.

Speak English you fart.

Reinaert
11-03-11, 19:49
i think foreigners shouldn't have a say in traditional festivities.
it's like those animalists who complain that siena's horses are treated wrong, and that the palio should be banned for using horses etc.etc.

it's a tradition, there's nothing wrong with it.

You change the subject.
We were talking about killing bulls in a sadistic way.
That is the absence of culture.
Has nothing to do with culture.

It has the same cruelty rate as the slaughter of animals and people in the Roman arena's.

^ lynx ^
11-03-11, 19:50
I have always hated bullfighting just like most of the spaniards... but I have no right to publicly moan about it until I become vegetarian.

The Truth about the Meat Industry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D8wSEHTbVk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRINGobU47c
(Warning, these are a really disturbing videos on the animal cruelty and suffering within the meat industry.)

julia90
11-03-11, 21:13
Actually the German language is very interesting. It is not, for example, like most modern Latin derived languages, or even other germanic languages, of the syntactic structure SVO (Subjet-Verb-Object).

"I want some ice cream"

Japanese, is an example of another case, SOV...

(That's why "Master Joda" speaks so funny :innocent: )

However, the general structure of a German sentence is:

V1 + S + O + V2

That is, the German predicate is divided (being a common case, that the last part is empty), and idealy encloses the whole sentence.

However, it is common that some part of the sentence that you want to stress goes out of the frame, and take the first place... It is not, the stupid "rule" that many times is taught to, say, Spanish speakers that want to learn German "verb goes always in the second place"... that only prevents to understand early the deep German structure.

I have read some Germans that say that is the structure of their language, the reason why they have to be very attentive: The predicate is not fully expressed until the whole sentence is spelled out. You should not interrupt your interlocutor by early "guessing" of what he/she want to express.

Well, just a Syntax comment I wanted to make...

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Does the structure of German propells Phylosophy or a better intellectual understanding of things?

It's a provocative question.

(That people like Karl Popper denies).

that is interesting, indeed someone had to wait more to understand the meaning of a speech

Grizzly
11-03-11, 23:06
The assertions about the French are obviously American clichés.

For the bullfighting, it is not really French, even in the south. This practice has been imported from Spain (1853).

http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2010/07/28/la-corrida-en-france-une-exception-tres-culturelle_1393205_3224.html

Carlitos
11-03-11, 23:10
SPAIN
Introduction: Spain is one of Europe’s oldest countries and dominated European politics and Catholicism for centuries. Remember that there are several Spains (Castile, Andalucia, Galicia, Catalonia, the Basques).

That lightness!, there are 17 regions in Spain.


Make sure you know where people’s allegiances lie.

What concept is the author of the Spanish?


Working hours: The working day is not an unbroken period of concentrated effort in the sense of the northern European or North American day. Coffee breaks with fellow employees, non-work conversations with colleagues and long meetings that shade into social affairs are all seen by the Spanish as valid parts of the working day.

A stupid paragraph, in Spain there are working hours and everything is agreed and organized, including breaks.
Spain is the only country where the work is, coffee machines, this guy believes that in Spain there are no business meetings.


Concept of time: Spaniards are classically multi-active, not linear-active. That is to say, the more things they can do or handle at the same time, the happier and more fulfilled they feel.

If you're a nurse, teacher, factory worker as more work at once give you the happier you are.


Body language: Spanish body language is among the most overt of all cultures. Flashing eyes, exaggerated facial expressions, extensive use of hands, arms and shoulders are typical. Eye contact is along with the Greek, the strongest in Europe.

Otelo

Listening habits: Spaniards are not dedicated listeners. They read less than any other people in Europe and pay little attention to the content of presentations. They do, however, watch you carefully and sum you up by observing your physical characteristics, your mannerisms and your willingness to participate in the congenial and jocular socialising which will inevitably follow.

First, 60% of the Spanish population aged over 14 claim to read books, whether for pleasure, work or study. Of these, the majority, ie, 57% said they read for pleasure and 21% due to work or school.
http://blog.entrelectores.com/2011/02/03/un-estudio-revela-los-habitos-de-lectura-en-espana/ (http://blog.entrelectores.com/2011/02/03/un-estudio-revela-los-habitos-de-lectura-en-espana/)

If we refer to the most popular materials, literature in the lead, followed at some distance from the humanities and social sciences. The main theme is historical fiction, mystery and adventure story, while the romance fell, the horror and science fiction.
The guy who wrote this wants to leave the Spanish as if they were children who choose the books for the cartoons or the design of the cover, has said that the Spanish did not pay attention to the content of the presentations?, I think a scandal an embarrassment, an insult.


Motivation factors: Socialise as energetically (and as late) as possible. Relationship building in Spain is nearly always associated with eating and drinking.

Whatever you say.


Manners and taboos: Entry into the EU has obliged business people to align their waking and working hours with the rest of Europe and the siesta tradition is dying fast.

Hopefully, we work more and are less productive, Spanish times have not been adjusted to Europe. What a nap I'm going to leave because this guy is so stupid that it is not worth no comment.

How to empathise: Deference to a Spaniard’s dignity, respect for his station, personality and soul, is the key to his co-operation, alliance and affection.

Go to sleep dear, do not show up in Spain.

Wilhelm
11-03-11, 23:10
The assertions about the French are obviously American clichés.

For the bullfighting, it is not really French, even in the south. This practice has been imported from Spain (1853).

http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2010/07/28/la-corrida-en-france-une-exception-tres-culturelle_1393205_3224.html
Nobody said it's french, what we said is that it's popular there (south), certainly more than in northern Spain. But overrall, it's not popular in Spain, mostly a very specific group of people normally middle-aged onwards

^ lynx ^
11-03-11, 23:15
Sgolne Royal qui dclarait La Provence en 2007 : "La corrida est un spectacle magnifique."

didn't know that Sgolene was a bullfighting fan. Spanish socialism use to be anti-corrida in general.


The assertions about the French are obviously American clichés.

Shared by many different cultures through the world.

Regards.

Grizzly
12-03-11, 00:03
Shared by many different cultures through the world.

Borrowed by many different cultures through the world.

Regards

^ lynx ^
12-03-11, 00:21
Borrowed by many different cultures through the world.

Regards

Yeah, the entire world have been brainwashed by USA about the frenchs.

Regards.

Grizzly
12-03-11, 01:02
Yeah, the entire world have been brainwashed by USA about the frenchs.

Regards.

Even it is more and more hard to believe, I've heard that the American culture was exported everywhere. This could explain that.

^ lynx ^
12-03-11, 12:43
There's no other logic explanation. Eating too many burgers have made the world share american's opinion on other nationalities.

Regards.

Carlitos
12-03-11, 15:46
Bah! French clichés about Spain.

Riccardo
25-03-11, 03:21
I think that one can't generalize...But there are common features among people of the same nation.

Orchid
25-03-11, 15:30
Poland - Republic of Poland / Polska - Rzeczpospolita Polska

1) Poland has many interesting places to visit & stay as for example:
- Baltic Sea,
- mountains: Tatra Mountains, Bieszczady, Karkonosze and others,
- Masuria which is known as "A land of thousand lakes" ,
- large forests as: Puszcza Kampinoska, Puszcza Białowieska etc.,
- amazing and beautiful cities: Warsaw, Gdańsk, Gdynia, Wrocław, Poznań, Katowice, Zamość.. and so on ;).

2) Poland was the first country attacked in World War II and the first country in Europe to break free from Soviet slavery in 1989. Even though Polish nation was in very though situation during WW II, they never joined Nazi or Soviet union.

3) Poland prevented Europe from Turkish (1683) and Soviet (1920) slavery.

4) Poland was the homeland of John Paul II.

5) Poland isn't so parochial as it's said to be. It has many modern objects, architecture, culture etc., but also respects its roots and traditions.

6) In Poland you can find some regions where local culture and customs are still alive, for example Kaszuby and Silesia which have their unique clothes, food, habits and even a specific language.

7) Some facts you may not know..:
- Poland was one of the first countries to get baptised (966) and the first in Europe (second in the world) which had its own constitution (1791);
- many Polish people weren't satisfied with communism after WW II, Polish soldiers fought against communism for a long time after 1945, the last of them were killed in 1963; they are known as "The cursed soldiers" because of being hated by communist authorities;
- in Poland many catholic holidays are free of work;
- one of the longest Polish words is: "Konstantynopolitańczykiewiczówna" - try to repeat! :laughing: ;
- Polish soldiers took part in one of the biggest military operation in Iraq - Battle of Karbala (2004);
- ..want to know more? Come to Poland! :)

Riccardo
25-03-11, 18:39
Poland is a great nation for many of the reasons that you said!

Orchid
25-03-11, 22:12
Riccardo, nice to hear that :).
I don't know much about Italy and Italians, but I have to say that in spite of having delicious national cuisine, I like Italian food, too - pesto rules! :grin:

Grizzly
25-03-11, 23:48
"Konstantynopolitańczykiewiczówna" - try to repeat! :laughing:

I don't see the difficulty : Konstantynopolitańczykiewiczówna ! Easy !

Orchid
26-03-11, 00:50
I don't see the difficulty : Konstantynopolitańczykiewiczówna ! Easy !

Wonderful! :grin:
You may also try with: "ponaddziesięcioipółmetrowy" :good_job:

julia90
26-03-11, 01:26
polish people are correct, and they are the immigrant that don't do crimes. there are many here in italy.