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Alexander came from an area where today we see a lot of Y-DNA haplogroup diversity. Predicting his haplogroup with any confidence is not really possible at the moment.
Based on modern distributions, he may have been E1b1b, J2, R1a, or R1b. But there are other possibilities, and I wouldn't assign likelihoods.
Well, can we find out what Zeus' haplogroup was?
According to Olympias, he was a more likely candidate to have been Alexander's father.
Haplogroup Z it is, then.
I thought it could be D for divine.
Seeing that I have officially wrecked this thread, I apologize.
But since the damage is already done, I offer the question of whom would one choose to meet if one was able, Olympias or Roxanne?
I would have to go with Roxanne. The man had marriage offers thrown at him from all sides, but he chose her.
y-dna haplogroups in Greek-Macedonia (256 samples):
R1a = 45 (17.6%)
R1b = 34 (13.3%)
I = 56 (21.9%)
E1b = 53 (20.7%)
J2 = 36 (14.1%)
G = 12 ( 4.7%)
What makes you think that Alexander could not belong to I or E1b1b haplogroups which are the most common in modern day Greek Macedonians? And why should he be R1b1b2?
y-dna haplogroups in Greek-Macedonia (256 samples):
R1a = 45 (17.6%)
R1b = 34 (13.3%)
I = 56 (21.9%)
E1b = 53 (20.7%)
J2 = 36 (14.1%)
G = 12 ( 4.7%)
What makes you think that Alexander could not belong to I or E1b1b haplogroups which are the most common in modern day Greek Macedonians? And why should he be R1b1b2?
Because Alexander belonged to the Indo-European ruling class, which was most probably pure R1b with a G2a3b1 minority.
Besides, most of the haplogroup I might have arrived in Macedonia after the time of Alexander. I1 and I2b would have come with the Germanic invasions at the end of the Roman empire. I2a2 might well have come with the Slavic migrations.
However, if the Indo-Europeans mixed with the other inhabitants of Greeks without Hindu-style segregation, and all classes had their fair chances to become nobility, then haplogroups E1b1b, I2 and J are also possible. But I doubt so. It is important to keep in mind that Alexander had light skin, blond hair, and blue eyes, like many other Macedonian nobles, which suggests that the Indo-European speakers from the steppes didn't mix with the dark-skinned and curly black-haired Middle Eastern Neolithic inhabitants of Greece (those typically depicted in ancient Greek pottery).
I think some of I2a also was there before south Slavs e.g. south Slavs never settled coasts of Asia minor...Besides, most of the haplogroup I might have arrived in Macedonia after the time of Alexander. I1 and I2b would have come with the Germanic invasions at the end of the Roman empire. I2a2 might well have come with the Slavic migrations.
However, if the Indo-Europeans mixed with the other inhabitants of Greeks without Hindu-style segregation, and all classes had their fair chances to become nobility, then haplogroups E1b1b, I2 and J are also possible. But I doubt so. It is important to keep in mind that Alexander had light skin, blond hair, and blue eyes, like many other Macedonian nobles, which suggests that the Indo-European speakers from the steppes didn't mix with the dark-skinned and curly black-haired Middle Eastern Neolithic inhabitants of Greece (those typically depicted in ancient Greek pottery).
blue eyes?
R1a people are blonde but have straight hairs
R1b is possible but at least in Greece they are not that blonde
G and J is possible cause they have curly hairs and bodytype like alexander
I think some of I2a also was there before south Slavs e.g. south Slavs never settled coasts of Asia minor...
but indeed most of I2 must be due to Slavs, as it is what distinguish Slavs from non-slavs in Balkan...
curiously, R1a is on similar level among non-Slavic FYRM Albanians, Slavic FYRM Macedonians, Slavic Serbs, while lower in Slavic Montenegro, and higher in Greek Macedonians. This tells me that R1a was likely one of dominant haplogroups of ancient Macedonians..
so, I agree... probably R1a, R1b or G...
but royal family of Macedonians did have greek origin, which we can trace regarding dispute over participating in Olympic games, so it may have been E-V13 or J2 as well....
I do not think it is that simple...
Y-DNA is just small part of genetic material... it is probably not the one that determines color of eyes, hair, body built...
one has many male ancestors... and YDNA reflects only direct male line... imagine a tree whose body we are... roots of the tree is tree hierarchy consisting of many many branches, that are smaller and more numerous deeper we go... .... YDNA traces just one of the branches all the way to a single small ... so in my opinion Y-DNA makes sense only for tracing movements of big populations....not for determining physical traits... of course if all male ancestors of a person are from same YDNA branch than we can make some generalizations...
No Maciamo there wasn't Hindu-style segregation in Greece (or Greek Macedonia), you claim to be a scientist and you don't know that? And by the way nobility does not come from a straight line for thousand of years, there are countless examples of Kings in ancient Greece who came from abroad and substituted previous Kings of native origin. You seem to think that ancient Greek kings belonged to what you call Indo-European rulling class but this is absurd...Alexander claimed descend from Temenus of Argos who belonged to the Heraclidae (they considered themselves descendants of Hercules who was a Danaan). If there is any truth in that he belonged to the same haplogroup with Danaus who most propably was E-V13...No where close to your beloved R1b. I think that you are somehow confused because R1b is the most common haplogroup of modern (or at least of the last centuries) European Kings but nothing connects them with ancient Greek nobility. After all most of them are related by blood and origin from Central or West Europe which would naturally make them R1b's.Because Alexander belonged to the Indo-European ruling class, which was most probably pure R1b with a G2a3b1 minority.
Besides, most of the haplogroup I might have arrived in Macedonia after the time of Alexander. I1 and I2b would have come with the Germanic invasions at the end of the Roman empire. I2a2 might well have come with the Slavic migrations.
However, if the Indo-Europeans mixed with the other inhabitants of Greeks without Hindu-style segregation, and all classes had their fair chances to become nobility, then haplogroups E1b1b, I2 and J are also possible. But I doubt so. It is important to keep in mind that Alexander had light skin, blond hair, and blue eyes, like many other Macedonian nobles, which suggests that the Indo-European speakers from the steppes didn't mix with the dark-skinned and curly black-haired Middle Eastern Neolithic inhabitants of Greece (those typically depicted in ancient Greek pottery).
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