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Anton, Bear's den
05-05-11, 14:36
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"The Eurovision Song Contest 2011 will be the 56th annual Eurovision Song Contest. It will take place in Düsseldorf, Germany, following Germany's win in the 2010 Contest with Lena Meyer-Landrut's song "Satellite". The contest will be held in Düsseldorf's Espri Arena, which beat out three challenging venue locations across Germany in a bidding phase in late 2010.
The dates set for the two semi-finals are 10 May and 12 May 2011, with the final planned for the evening of 14 May 2011. Forty-three countries have confirmed their participation in the contest, with those returning including Austria, which last participated in 2007; Hungary, which last competed in 2009; and San Marino, which last participated in 2008. Italy also returns to the Contest, marking its first participation since 1997"

Someone else exept me on this forum will watch it? :grin:

Reinaert
05-05-11, 17:03
Euro Song Contest isn't interesting anymore. It's way too commercial, too much political choices, not the musicality.

How to win the song contest?

Shake some hips, girl singer in Shakira style.
Get the clothing out of a sex shop.:snicker:

Music? Hardly interesting..
Try the Worlds shortest commercial song:

Lalalalalalala... Money Please!

Anton, Bear's den
05-05-11, 19:47
Euro Song Contest isn't interesting anymore. It's way too commercial, too much political choices, not the musicality.

How to win the song contest?

Shake some hips, girl singer in Shakira style.
Get the clothing out of a sex shop.:snicker:

Music? Hardly interesting..
Try the Worlds shortest commercial song:

Lalalalalalala... Money Please!
You mean like that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qnsZgQe1tU&feature=relmfu
or like :laughing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9rJLtz64Hg&feature=related

My favourite in non-shakira style:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh3hj9-J76Y&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh7hiaq0aWU&feature=related

Mzungu mchagga
05-05-11, 23:09
What about these:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-DVi0ugelc

or:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp93flpMav0&feature=related

or:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFBVMofKVdY&feature=related

or:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5GwF5B1uFU&feature=related

or:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67q3XNXcZ4g


it has become too commercial these days? naaaahhhh *lol* :laughing::


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBbVdtEhUVw

Antigone
06-05-11, 06:27
I always thought that the entrants had to be amateur singers or musicians but the last few times Greece has entered professionals. I have no idea who Greece is sending this time though, I don't normally take much notice of the contest. The talent is usually poor and, as has already been said, the voting is political.

Mzungu mchagga
06-05-11, 06:54
Uhm Antigone...



you have to be very, very strong now! :ashamed2:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v27gtuLhiac

Reinaert
06-05-11, 09:03
This is what I mean:

A high class song that went into oblivion.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dxudrQ8jfw

The song ended up between the last that year.
I guess that was the biggest mistake ever made by the Euro Song Contest system.

Mzungu mchagga
06-05-11, 11:31
This was the BEST Eurovision song ever [Belgium in 1980]:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6USa0zUMmqI
Sadly it turned out to be on last position that contest.

Anton, Bear's den
06-05-11, 15:06
Many people complain that Eurovision is political event because culturally close countries often simply exchange by points in the voting between each other.
But in general I think anyway wins the best, Norway which usually don't get much of points won in 2009 with a record, almost the same thing with Germany last year.

Mzungu mchagga
06-05-11, 15:54
Many people complain that Eurovision is political event because culturally close countries often simply exchange by points in the voting between each other.
But in general I think anyway wins the best, Norway which usually don't get much of points won in 2009 with a record, almost the same thing with Germany last year.

I agree! Here is what I think about it:
I do believe that a lot of points are given due to sympathy, or not given because of aversions towards certain countries. This doesn't happen on purpose in every single case, often also with sub-conciousness. But it happens.

Anyways, I think that if all points of all countries are combined, these political votes are statistically out-balanced. It has no huger effect if Greece gives 12 points to Cyprus, Armenia 0 points to Azerbaijan or Lithuania 0 points to Russia if the rest of all participants doesn't care. If you look at all winners of the past contests, there is no system to be observed where all the countings go to. They have been well balanced and usually the winner's song was one most participants can agree upon to some degree.

Moreover, not every point given to a neighbouring country or not given to a far distant country has necessarily a political reason. Musical tastes are also culturally different, and if you know a little about music in various European regions, you will get to know where the tendencies of differences are, like at the Mediterranean (power ballads), Scandinavia (rock or accoustic guitar sounds), Middle East with Caucasus (oriental beats with arabesque melody lines) or the Celtic Fringe (Celtic instruments). Another thing I have observed is that there is also a tendency of Western countries to neglect the appearence of their singers and concentrate a little more on the music, while especially Eastern European and Near Eastern countries give a higher importance to a glittering show with a gainly looking performer. Especially countries like Azerbaijan etc. which don't get much recognition in politics, economy, sports or other entertainment during the rest of the year, use ESC as a platform for promoting their country and spend an awful lot of money on it.

Antigone
06-05-11, 17:22
Thanks for the link MM, I watched all three of the Greek hopefuls and I think the best one was picked to enter. But it will be interesting to see how far he goes, although I think there is probably too much Greek in the song and not enough English. Usually acts all in English or with most English in a song go better as a greater number of people will understand the words. Only Greece and Cyprus are going to understand the most of our entry.

Anton, Bear's den
06-05-11, 22:52
Please vote for our singer :grin:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ78IlJs5JQ&playnext=1&list=PL9D3A690892F66851

Carlitos
07-05-11, 02:35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_yw9-kjm7E

One of the best songs of Eurovision of all time, played by Maribel Conde Andalusian singer.

LeBrok
07-05-11, 05:12
Thanks guys for links, really enjoyed them. Ukraine was a riot, lol.

Here is my favorite.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiH4BFTELME&feature=player_embedded

Mzungu mchagga
07-05-11, 13:02
Two examples of how politics can influence the contest [because this thread was posted in the sub-forum politics]:

Portugal in 1974, providing an anthem for the Carnation Revolution to restore democracy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89LBNSX_vig

Portugal in 2011, financial crisis and general mistrust into government and politics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bDN53Rqh54

Carlitos
08-05-11, 01:53
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOsAzsONfMg&feature=related


Another great interpreter of Andalusia (Spain), with its beautiful crystal voice.

Carlitos
10-05-11, 23:25
Are broadcasting the semifinal for the second TVE and surprisingly, almost all countries sing in English, I think it might be the end of the festival, will you succeed in USA singing in English? And all those small countries in the East, will ignite the stage a day now.

Gavroche
11-05-11, 12:17
almost all countries sing in English
Very strange and very sad...:shocked:

Do the English will be the official european language?
Do they prepare us?

We must be obliged to sing in our language for the eurovision...

Carlitos
11-05-11, 23:19
Very strange and very sad...:shocked:

Do the English will be the official european language?
Do they prepare us?

We must be obliged to sing in our language for the eurovision...

Totally agree, each country should sing in their language, I like to hear the strange language and not hear all the songs in English, it sounds all the same, standardized everything, you lose the intrinsic meaning of every people of Europe, should be prohibited.

Antigone
12-05-11, 07:04
I disagree, I prefer to understand the meaning of the song as well as enjoy the music and quality of voice before I decide whether I would want to vote for it. And as I speak only Greek and English it doesn't leave too many options in a contest with very many entrants.

The best acts for me are those that combine the ethnic flavour of their country with a couple of verses in English.

Gavroche
12-05-11, 08:17
I prefer to understand the meaning of the song...subtitles?

Antigone
12-05-11, 16:29
Ha yes, subtitles would help!

Mzungu mchagga
12-05-11, 17:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZJt6Gv4XPk&feature=related

This is what would happen if you translate the lyrics into English:

Man is the measure of all things


The animals of the world
I rather like them
But more than anything I like
The hares and the bears
The bears!

Soon all birds will die
Soon all beetles will die
Only Adam is lying in bed
And reproduces with Eve

The hares live in the forest
The cats in the meadows
And the cockroaches
They live under the tiles

Little hares have short noses
And little cats have soft paws
And Mrs Holle likes the wool
Of the dromedary from Africa

The difference between people
Between apes and primates
It's not much bigger
Than between noodles and fries
Fries!

But whoever wants to know more
About animals, should study biology
Or connect to my homepage
To find it out yourself

Some animals have wings
And others have fins
Some live outdoors
And others in cans

Little hares have short noses
And little cats have soft paws
And Mrs Holle likes the wool
Of the dromedary from Africa

Reinaert
12-05-11, 18:29
Hmm... Every language has it's own beauty.
It's impossible to translate poems from one language into another, without losing the essence.

My point is, you don't always have to understand a poem that's sung on music, to enjoy it.
For instance, I don't understand much of Italian, but I like the songs.
The Austrian song is nice, because it's a dialect. It wouldn't sound that good if the singer had used standard German.

Some languages like German and Dutch are rather artificial, and that's why it's hard to sing in those languages.