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Carlitos
11-07-11, 23:04
Red sticker for a 5-year-old child for Catalan does not speak in the court

A school in Sitges has put a sign in red in the records of the child for not speaking in Catalan in the court during the playtime.

The junking of Spanish language and of the people who uses it in Catalonia begins from the infancy. This way it has happened in a center of Sitges, as it denounces Ciudadanos (Political Party), after making her proper his parents.

A school of Sitges has put a red mark in the records of a five-year-old child for not speaking " in the transport language ", such and since he gathers ABC. In fact, on having come to house with the notes, the pupil knowing that this mark was slightly negative asked: what have I done bad, mami? Why have they made me a sticker red? ".




http://www.libertaddigital.com:6680/c.php?op=thumb&id=http://s.libertaddigital.com/fotos/noticias/notasninositgesgrande.jpg&x=0&y=600
(In red) Participation in conversations using the transport language of the school center.


And the fact is that the document that the small one took to house values the level of verbal language for several facets as the oral expression or the pronunciation, which they are evaluated by marks by the colors of a semaphore.
In this sense, it is the paragraph three where the child saw the red sign. This point values if the child " takes part in conversations using the transport language of the center ". This situation infuriated the parents, who denounced the situation before Ciudadanos (political Party).

The spokesman of Citizens, Jordi Cañas, there have denounced that " we do not want that any child is marked by a sticker in red for speaking in Castilian, we do not want a community in which the people indicate you for the language that you speak ".
This way, he insists that " the parents must have the right to choose the language in which they study his children and the pigeonhole to do this election in the preinscription does not exist ". Also, he thinks that " the languages are rights of the citizens and not of the school centers ".

http://www.libertaddigital.com/sociedad/marcan-con-una-pegatina-roja-a-un-nino-de-5-anos-por-no-hablar-catalan-en-el-patio-1276414551/

Franco
11-11-11, 22:37
People who want these things to continue happening must vote for PSOE.

Knovas
11-11-11, 23:08
This is not a global problem in Catalonia, only a few schools presented situations like this. Ciudadanos, as usual, use things like this for its own benefit, trying to make belive this is a problem you find everywhere.

Of course, this is completely false, and only 4 charlatans who vote them and the PP think Castilian is pursued in Catalonia.

And by the way, PSOE is the same bad for Catalonia as the PP. Those who want this to "continue happening" (LOL), for sure will not vote the PSOE.

Wilhelm
12-11-11, 02:23
I don't understand why some people living in Catalonia don't want to learn Catalan, it is not respectful and is a sign of not wanting to integrate. Simply.

Knovas
12-11-11, 16:09
That's another point I fully agree.

And of course, Castilian and Catalan can stay together without problems, and that's exactly how it works. Those who pretend to make believe another thing, as I said, are nothing but dishonest charlatan liars.

Cimmerianbloke
13-11-11, 05:18
It is in the child's interest to learn and speak catalan if living there. Mastering catalan can really make a difference when looking for a job, especially in well sought after Generalitat or other government jobs. Some parents are just too stupid to understand that. A lot of foreign nationals from South America resent that too, but few make the effort to learn it and therefore deprive themselves from better job and career opportunities.

Cimmerianbloke
13-11-11, 05:32
For clarity, "transport language" has to be translated as vehicular language, as opposed to vernacular (used by the local population). That means kids are allowed to use spanish, but isn't the point of a language course to encourage the kid to use its target language? It all makes sense from a linguistic and teaching point of view to me. Two remarks; first, the original article was published in the ABC newspaper, a pro-PP publication, at the fringe of the right political spectrum, barely objective point of view though. Second, the last phrase of the text reads " I show interest in learning the english language"...

Franco
19-11-11, 18:28
For clarity, "transport language" has to be translated as vehicular language, as opposed to vernacular (used by the local population). That means kids are allowed to use spanish, but isn't the point of a language course to encourage the kid to use its target language? It all makes sense from a linguistic and teaching point of view to me. Two remarks; first, the original article was published in the ABC newspaper, a pro-PP publication, at the fringe of the right political spectrum, barely objective point of view though. Second, the last phrase of the text reads " I show interest in learning the english language"...

Spanish must be co-vehicular at schools along with Catalan . 100% immersion in Catalan like regional government is doing in public schools right now is illegal. But in Spain people are used to politicians acting illegaly, they have accepted they can't expect another behaviour from them. Spain is not a country where Law is strictly obeyed. I agree that purely for linguistic purposes if you want to learn Catalan perfectly it's better to study all the subjects in Catalan, but I don't think the goal of most students in Catalonia is to master the catalan language, just to pass their exams, and if it's easier and more productive too for them to study let's say Maths in Spanish, let it be so. There is no need to add extra difficulties to students in a Spanish region like Catalonia where students failure rate ranks among the highest in Spain. Furthermore, if one buys the immersion argument , then considering that since not all people speak Spanish natively one could also argue that native Catalan speakers should study all subjects in Spanish in order for them to master the Spanish language. That is, immersion should be bi-directional, not only for native Spanish speakers. In the end it's more important for native Catalan speakers to speak properly an important language like Spanish than learning Catalan for native Spanish speakers in Catalonia who after leaving the education system won't use Catalan anymore unless they want to become civil servants of the Catalan regional government.

Cimmerianbloke
19-11-11, 23:59
In the end it's more important for native Catalan speakers to speak properly an important language like Spanish than learning Catalan for native Spanish speakers in Catalonia who after leaving the education system won't use Catalan anymore unless they want to become civil servants of the Catalan regional government.

That shows how bad you know Catalonia. To start with, all Catalan speakers I ever met also spoke Spanish. All of them, not one exception. To follow, Catalan is spoken everywhere in Catalonia. If you haven't heard it, I just can not take you seriously. Spanish is taught in Catalonia as a foreign language, and that is what really bothers every castillan speaker there. Spanish is not an endangered language in Catalonia, even though some political parties try to convince the rest of Spain of the contrary.

Franco
20-11-11, 00:15
That shows how bad you know Catalonia. To start with, all Catalan speakers I ever met also spoke Spanish. All of them, not one exception. To follow, Catalan is spoken everywhere in Catalonia. If you haven't heard it, I just can not take you seriously. Spanish is taught in Catalonia as a foreign language, and that is what really bothers every castillan speaker there. Spanish is not an endangered language in Catalonia, even though some political parties try to convince the rest of Spain of the contrary.

That they speak Spanish does not mean they use it well, specially when written. You as a foreigner won't notice that just by visiting Barcelona for a few days. Take for instance a native Spanish speaker in Catalonia. Granted he will speak Spanish to you even if he never studied Spanish at school, but he may not be able to write it properly because hours of study in Spanish in Catalonia are not sufficient. Of course we bother about that because it is illegal as I said earlier and provokes functionally illiterate people (let me remark again that Catalonia posesses one of highest student failure rate in Spain and that most of those students are native Spanish speakers speaks a lot) . Also Spanish is the language spoken natively by a majority of Catalans, so teaching Spanish as a foreign language just like English is like saying those Catalans are foreigners in their own land.

Cimmerianbloke
22-11-11, 01:21
You actually contradict yourself here. Spanish is not ostracized in Catalonia, but Catalan is the vehicular language of the autonomous government, and teaching is donr through Catalan. I am sure Madrid can open a couple of schools where kids would be taught exclusively through Spanish, most Catalans would not care. On the other hand, if Catalans living in Madrid would complain about not having thr opportunity to have their kids taught in Catalan, I can very well imagine the reaction of Madrilens: "go back to Catalunya if you want to speak Catalan".
Here is an article published some time ago that can give you another way of seeing how Catalans see the central government. That will help you understand that they think they give enough to Madrid and want their culture left in peace.

http://quiron.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/del-blog-de-la-vanguardia/

Carlos
26-11-11, 23:41
The Catalan politicians impose the Catalan, but they take his children to schools of other languages

They impose the Catalan, but they take to his children to schools of other languages High charges of the PSC, advocates of the linguistic immersion, have his children registered in private centers on Mondays LVL, February 15, 2010, 11:29 Madrid. - Many of the Catalan politicians who defend the linguistic obligatory immersion in Catalan takes to his children to schools deprived of elite in those who do not apply to themselves these measurements

José Montilla, ex-president of the Generalitat, has his triplets registered in the select German School, where they learn four languages

Also other charges of the PSC like Manuela de Madre, vice-president of the formation, José Zaragoza, secretary of organization, Joaquim Nadal, Catalan adviser of Territorial Politics, and Mar Serna, adviser of Work, take his children to private schools that remain excluded from the obligation of that the Catalan is a transport language.

This fact does not affect only the members of the Catalan Government, Artur Mas, leader of CiU and Catalan prime minister sends his children to the French Lyceum, the same one in which they study the shoots of Joan Laporta. The president of the Football Club Barcelona achieved recently that the Catalan was named official language of the club and showed time and again his support to speeches independentistas. “ Montilla imposes the monolingüismo in the public schools and turns into guinea pigs the children of the others while theirs learn four languages.

Other politicians who take his children to private centers are Cristina Garmendia, José Blanco, Mercedes Cabrera or José Bono. The minister of Science and Innovation has his children registered in the school San Patricio of the quarter of Madrid of The Moral; José Blanco takes them to the British Institute whereas Mercedes Cabrera has them inscribed in the School Study of Madrid.

Numerous political and professional persons in charge have denounced this fact. Carmen Guaita, state person in charge of Communication of the teaching syndicate ANPE, showed that “ the political persons in charge have to guarantee to the society the same education of maximum quality that they want for his children ”.

http://www.balearesliberal.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2699%3Aimponen-el-catalan-pero-llevan-a-sus-hijos-a-colegios-de-otras-lenguas&catid=5%3Acomentarios&Itemid=1

Cimmerianbloke
27-11-11, 03:04
Montilla is from Andalusia and was an embarrassment, as the whole tripartit government of those years. Again, Catalan was spoken in catalonia well before Spanish, in fact Catalan medieval litterature was already found all over the Mediterranea thanks to the Catalan trading posts. From that historic point of view, Castillan is an alien language in Catalonia and native Spanish speakers should then be bilingual. If I could learn catalan at 28 in less than a year, I can not understand why mot people can't.
Again, our points of view are opposite, and I don't intend to try to convince you I am right.

Carlos
27-11-11, 04:42
Montilla is from Andalusia and was an embarrassment, as the whole tripartit government of those years. Again, Catalan was spoken in catalonia well before Spanish, in fact Catalan medieval litterature was already found all over the Mediterranea thanks to the Catalan trading posts. From that historic point of view, Castillan is an alien language in Catalonia and native Spanish speakers should then be bilingual. If I could learn catalan at 28 in less than a year, I can not understand why mot people can't.
Again, our points of view are opposite, and I don't intend to try to convince you I am right.

Spanish is the common language of all the Spanish. In the ancient evolution of the Castilian all the Spanish regions inform the modern Spanish also the Catalan region. But the origin of the nationalism regionalist in Spain is in the Central European nationalism, a ridiculous import for Mister Robert in Catalonia and for Sabino Arana in Basque Country, they heard bells and exported these ideas to his regions, now thousands of young people are indoctrinated in Spain with historical, social and economic lies and the school is fundamental for the above mentioned indoctrination, they go so far as to be modified and alter the textbooks or to sanctioning the children in some schools for speaking Spanish during the hour of playtime. Also they are sanctioned to the commerce that they label in Spanish. The languages are so that the people understand herself and not to separate and to discriminate.

If you are a South American it is probable that he believes that the fault of all his evil comes from Spain, an argument that Catalan nationalist will make him syntonize with the nationalism, somehow the hate generates hate.

"What have I done bad, mami?"

Cimmerianbloke
28-11-11, 00:44
As for Franco, all I can tell you is that we have opposing points of view, and that yours is as valid as mine because they are based on our respective experiences.

Carlos
28-11-11, 00:59
As for Franco, all I can tell you is that we have opposing points of view, and that yours is as valid as mine because they are based on our respective experiences.

Franco protected and promoted the economy of Catalonia and Basque Country and also of Madrid. He wants to say that if Andalusia or Galicia for example wanted to buy insecticide to Germany or another European country, they could not, had to buy insecticide of Catalonia that was turning out to be more expensive and of worse quality than German.

It is an example of as Franco delivered to Catalonia and Basque Country the only magnificent market, that of the whole Spain, for alone, like that them anyone becomes rich.
The Dictator Franc helped and promoted these two Spanish regions: is this anything that his friends have never told him independentistas, is not it true? the only thing that they know is to become the victims: is not it true? and to say how bad Franc was with them. They tell him what they are interested in, do not leave that they wash the brain, only they can lie.

"What have I done bad, mami?"

Also in Spain we are not speaking about Franco the whole day, it is a topic about which they always speak the nationalist regionalist they are those who evidently support the alive memory of Franco, because it does not fall down to them of the mouth, always speaking about Franco for feedback his victimhood, already nobody in Spain believes the victimhood of the nationalistic regionalists.

Carlos
28-11-11, 02:05
The Generalitat (Catalan government) imposed 205 fines to Catalan shops for labelling in Castilian

The Generalitat has imposed 205 linguistic fines to Catalan establishments in 2010 for breaking the Law of Linguistic Politics, that is to say, for labelling only in Castilian. The normative polemic fixes sanctions for those establishments that they do not label " at least in Catalan ". The collection has amounted to 182.000 euros.

According to a bulletin of the PP, 205 linguistic fines of 2010 suppose an increase with regard to the 151 that the Generalitat imposed the previous year - which collection was 147.000 euros-, although in 2008 the maximum was marked in both senses: there were 209 sanctions that supposed 208.000 euros.

The General Secretary of the PP, Jordi Cornet, has repeated that the linguistic fines are a " democratic shame ", from what it has urged the autonomic Government to suppress them for thinking that they are discriminatory and do not respect the freedom of the persons.

http://www.libertaddigital.com/sociedad/la-generalidad-impuso-205-multas-a-tiendas-catalanas-por-rotular-en-castellano-1276416865/ (http://www.libertaddigital.com/sociedad/la-generalidad-impuso-205-multas-a-tiendas-catalanas-por-rotular-en-castellano-1276416865/)


Liberate against the nationalistic oppression!!!


"What have I done bad, mami?"

Cimmerianbloke
28-11-11, 03:17
I was talking about Franco the poster of the previous post. You actually show how intolerant and narrow-minded you are by posting comments like "Liberate against the nationalistic oppression", which is on top wrong from a grammatical point of view. Read thoroughly the article you copy-pasted, and you'll see the shop owners have been fined "for breaking the law of linguistic politics". If you don't get that, there is nothing nobody can do for you. Just for the sake of having the last word, I will show you this one (I just hope the irony is not too subtle for you):

http://www.reagrupament.cat/noticies/la_policia_nacional_multa_un_ciutada_per_parlar_ca tala_a_catalunya

You can also read this for your own education:

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Cronolog%C3%ADa_de_la_minorizaci%C3%B3n_del_ idioma_catal%C3%A1n

I have no problem having an educated conversation with open-minded and intelligent people, so in this case I will refrain from answering to your provocations. Good night, Visca Catalunya i visca el Barça...

Franco
28-11-11, 04:07
I was talking about Franco the poster of the previous post. You actually show how intolerant and narrow-minded you are by posting comments like "Liberate against the nationalistic oppression", which is on top wrong from a grammatical point of view. Read thoroughly the article you copy-pasted, and you'll see the shop owners have been fined "for breaking the law of linguistic politics". If you don't get that, there is nothing nobody can do for you. Just for the sake of having the last word, I will show you this one (I just hope the irony is not too subtle for you):

http://www.reagrupament.cat/noticies/la_policia_nacional_multa_un_ciutada_per_parlar_ca tala_a_catalunya

You can also read this for your own education:

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Cronología_de_la_minorización_del_idioma_c atalán

I have no problem having an educated conversation with open-minded and intelligent people, so in this case I will refrain from answering to your provocations. Good night, Visca Catalunya i visca el Barça...

I don't think describing the situation as "nationalistic oppression" is that exaggerate. I did post another comment but it seems it has dissapeared. In few words I wondered how it can be possible that given most of Catalans are native Spanish speakers they prefer that their children study in Catalan. It's strange because I don't know of a single country where most of people speak language X and their children study in Y language. But it's ok, let's assume this is true (at least the Catalan government says so despite they didn't ask students' parents). Even if it was true, there must also exist a sizeable amount of Catalan parents who may desire their sons to study in Spanish.Then since they can't choose to study in Spanish, which is an official tongue in Catalonia too, they are oppresed, there is no freedom of choose. Sorry, I can't see as a normal thing that most of Catalans who speak Spanish natively can't study in Spanish, only in Catalan, just because Catalan is endangered and children must study it immersively at any cost. I think it is an aberration and also it is illegal according to Spanish Constitutional Court. Education is intended to enable people to be competitive in a globalised world, not to revive dying languages. Also don't compare things that cannot be compared. Asking to study in Spanish in Catalonia is not the same as studying in Catalan in Andalusia. In Andalusia nobody speaks Catalan nor Catalan is an official tongue. In Catalonia Spanish is coofficial along with Catalan and the most spoken and used language. A bit different situation I think.

Cimmerianbloke
28-11-11, 04:31
If your thinking was right, there would be no more castillan speakers in Catalonia. As a matter of fact, most castillan speakers that got their education through catalan and decided not to use it were not repressed nor expelled from Catalonia. Nobody gets a fine for speaking castillan. The Generalitat provides most forms citizens need in castillan too. I don't see any oppression in that. Only a small percentage of native castillan-speaking catalans moan about the linguistic laws. Most troublemakers are foreign immigrants or coming from other communities. Again, if these people do not understand Catalan is the language of Catalonia, there is little to do but to educate them, which is what the Generalitat does...

Franco
28-11-11, 05:04
If your thinking was right, there would be no more castillan speakers in Catalonia. As a matter of fact, most castillan speakers that got their education through catalan and decided not to use it were not repressed nor expelled from Catalonia. Nobody gets a fine for speaking castillan. The Generalitat provides most forms citizens need in castillan too. I don't see any oppression in that. Only a small percentage of native castillan-speaking catalans moan about the linguistic laws. Most troublemakers are foreign immigrants or coming from other communities. Again, if these people do not understand Catalan is the language of Catalonia, there is little to do but to educate them, which is what the Generalitat does...

How come the Catalans who do not use the Catalan language would be expelled from Catalonia by the nationalists if there was repression? They don't do that because they can't, but don't be so sure that they wouldn't do it if they could. There are degrees of repression, from subtle to more agressive and blatant. But it's ok, it could be worse that not being able to study in Spanish. Thank you nationalists for leting us live. :laughing:
I don't expect Spanish will dissapear even if all Catalans have to study 100% of subjects in Catalan at school like nowadays (aside from English language and Spanish). If Catalan itself didn't dissapear after centuries of the inverse situation (it was not possible to study in Catalan until 1975),then I guess a bigger language like Spanish won't either. But I don't care that Spanish will survive or not in Catalonia, which I take for granted, as much as the individual rights of the citizens. I think it's a civil right to study in your mother language in your own country, so as long as Catalonia is part of Spain Catalans who desire so have the right to study in Spanish. That only a few moan about this is true, but it's also true that only a few homosexuals wanted gay marriages in Spain and now it is a right for all of them. Rights are rights no matter how many people are interested in executing them and the Spanish law recognizes that both Spanish and Catalan are equally official. So even if just one Catalan wanted to study in Spanish he or she has the legal right. Democracy does not mean that majorities have the power to deny rights to minorities, assumed that a majority of Catalans who do not want to study in Spanish exists.It is very strange that most of Catalans, native Spanish speakers as they are, do not want their language to have the same status than Catalan. Do they want to be second class citizens? Ok, but if some others do not, let them to choose.Nationalists often ask freedom to commit seccession, but on the other hand they are not interested in asking parents which language they prefer as vehicular at schools.
Catalan is not the sole language of Catalonia, Catalan is one of the languages of Catalonia along with Spanish. So both languages must be equal in all aspects.

Carlos
30-11-11, 01:30
Clearly the Catalan nationalism is something exported artificially, and last decades it has been based on lies. This type of ideologies ends up by losing the head, we already know the history and what it spent, it is true that if they could God knows up to where it would come...

Spanish is a national language and internaciona, while the Catalan is a regional language, regional language or since want to call him, the question is that a uselessness is logical that many parents of Catalonia see and now with the crisis more that his children finally finish an education being illiterate integrals not only already in Spanish if not also in Catalan a language certainly with the very short wings and quite useless at the time of going out of the borders of the Catalan region.

Cimmerianbloke
30-11-11, 12:22
Well, Carlos, if you are right, I suppose Spaniards wouldn't see any problem if Catalans would speak their own folkloric language in their own folkloric region. The problem is that without Catalan taxes money (and Basque...), Spain is nothing. As you probably never set a foot in Catalonia, you better look after your own community and make sure you keep reading the same biased medias, as furthering your political education has clearly never been your priority. Ignorance and narrow-mindedness are clearly an issue in Spain.

Carlos
30-11-11, 17:26
Well, Carlos, if you are right, I suppose Spaniards wouldn't see any problem if Catalans would speak their own folkloric language in their own folkloric region. The problem is that without Catalan taxes money (and Basque...), Spain is nothing. As you probably never set a foot in Catalonia, you better look after your own community and make sure you keep reading the same biased medias, as furthering your political education has clearly never been your priority. Ignorance and narrow-mindedness are clearly an issue in Spain.


Dear friend I Live in Catalonia.

The rest of Spain does not have any problem with the folklore and the language of Catalonia, there is freedom in Spain and 17 regional governments. Personally it is a language or language that I do not like, I feel it: do I have to ask for excuses?, I do not like his sound, I neither have need to speak it, nor want to speak it; although I can speak it and write it, I do not like, feel it, except that I find her useless.

The problem is for the workpeople of the rest of Spain that they are moved to Catalonia and see as it is impossible that his children could receive classes in Spanish or simply resident in Catalonia of the rest of Spain that wanted that his children were educated in Spanish, for the simple reason that are in Spain, that have right to which his children study in the common language of Spain, it is like that of easy.

Spain has the very wide vision friend, do not make a mistake, we have universal tradition and from immemorial times we have had relation with the biggest cultures of the Mediterranean, Europe, later America e.t.c., here the only ones that have the narrow mind are the nationalistic regionalists, already in Spain nobody believes in his words and much less in his positions victimistas, but I observe that they have been able to strain his lies in certain European and world sectors, they do not create them, only they go for the money by means of the discrimination and the exclusion.

The Europeans you are, well you not, much weighed with the topic Franco, in Spain nobody speaks nor remembers, only the nationalists.

Carlos
30-11-11, 17:34
http://estaticos01.cache.el-mundo.net/elmundo/imagenes/2010/01/19/1263932704_0.jpg

Fined another merchant in Barcelona for labelling in Castilian

The businesswoman Feliciana Piris makes sure that ' what happens to me is not just '

He assures not to be arranged to ' happening for the hoop ' despite the fine of 1.200 €

It is a question of a native Catalan businesswoman, that the people do not believe that all the Catalans are separatist because it is not true.

The woman born in Cardona (Barcelona) and catalanoparlante, faces now a sanction for 1.200 euros for his denial to change the cartel with the one that offers the products of his business.

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2010/01/19/barcelona/1263932704.html

Carlos
03-12-11, 00:07
The businessman fined for labelling in Spanish refuses to pay.


http://imagenes.publico.es/resources/archivos/2010/6/4/1275676298966effedn.jpg
http://www.publico.es/espana/317991/el-empresario-multado-por-rotular-en-espanol-se-niega-a-pagar

The Catalan administration fined with 400 euros in 2006 the owner of Finques Nevot for not having a cartel in Catalan in the door of his business, placed in Vilanova i the Geltrú (Barcelona), and with 400 more euros for not having sheets of claim in this language.


Feliciana Piris and Manuesl Nevot are two Catalan citizens, with Catalan, original surnames of Catalonia completely and in his private business they were labelling in Spanish, now they have to pay fines for labelling his business with the common language of all the Spanish. This way the nationalists use the ligertad, Ay mother what they would do if they could...

Carlos
08-12-11, 20:35
Language Platform (Plataforma per la llengua) for organizing actions against the Spanish in public schools with the support of the catalan Government

Three public schools Torelló (Barcelona) host activities during school hours to indoctrinate children under 12 years in 'the benefits' of compulsory school immersion in Catalan only.

http://www.vozbcn.com/figura/2011/12/20111207inmersion2.jpg
Children are indoctrinated and forced to carry signs with a picture of a submarine about the title: Immersion.

Continued politicization of the Catalan public schools and intensifies the interference of national entities in the education network of the Government to move their messages to students with impunity and even with the help of their own schools and the Ministry of Education. This is what follows from the last project for the language platform has carried out this Wednesday in five infant and primary schools of the town near Barcelona Torello, including three public and one concert.


The initiative, called 'collective act of immersion ", the radical organization trying to convince the children 12 years and their parents, also invited to participate, the importance of that Catalan is the only language of instruction in schools, rejecting that this condition is shared with the Castilian-official language in Catalonia by the Catalan, and own about half of the citizens of the community-even though the courts have ruled many times that both languages ​​should be vehicular as normal.

A manifesto for compulsory immersion in Catalan

The ceremony begun at 16:45 hours (15 minutes before the end of the teaching time in the three public schools) and have been that all students have left the yard to play a Catalan version of the song Yellow Submarine with some cards where in recent days have drawn submarines with 'immersion'. Then I have read a manifesto in defense of compulsory school immersion in Catalan only. Attendees are also invited to broadcast the event by using social networking sites such as the palindrome hashtag # catalaaltac ('Catalan attack' in Castilian), that the writer became fashionable Màrius Serra supporter on the ERC-last dyad.

The text of the manifesto calls judgments on school bilingualism as' aggression 'to' open the door to claims concerned that may threaten the social cohesion of Catalonia urges to 'act against' judgments' positively ', and argues that the prohibition of Castilian as the language school seeks to 'ensure a good knowledge of official languages ​​to enable the use of Catalan in the social, economic and cultural'

http://www.vozbcn.com/figura/2011/12/20111206inmersion.jpg

'Resistance' versus 'the Spanish colonizers'

The indoctrination of students have tried to make the nicest possible way. It has commissioned The Catlanders, a kind of artistic-political group that for years claimed, in a tone of humor, independence referendums, compulsory dipping 'resistance' versus 'the Spanish colonizers'. The initiative has also been supported Torelló City Council, led by Jaume Soler i Vivet (CIU), who in his inauguration speech of office last June, he made it clear his intentions. "Here we have a language, customs, a way of doing things and behave in the street, at school and the people be respected," he said then.

In total, 1056 children have participated in public schools Fortià Solà, Vall del Ges and Marta Mata, of the concerted Rocaprevera, and Cors Sagrats private. BARCELONA'S VOICE has been in contact with the Ministry of Education, but has declined to make any recommendation regarding this issue.

Pataforma by language and strategy.

Platform language, entity generously rewarded and funded by the Generalitat and local governments, with more than two and a half million euros in recent years, is known for its commercial blackmail and boycotts (against the media, airlines , cinemas or small businesses), as well as campaigns for citizens to file complaints against the businesses that labeled in Castilian.

In recent months there has been mobilized for the Generalitat and public schools disobey many court rulings forcing school bilingualism reset. Similarly, in July 2010, called for regional institutions to defy the ruling of the Constitutional Court on the statute, which outlawed mandatory school immersion in Catalan only.

A few weeks ago, Plataforma per la Llengua launched an eleven commandments for sales arguments that schools can reject requests from parents requesting a bilingual education for their children. The ultimate goal was confessed by the entity 'replaced the outline of a bilingual society by a multilingual society have Catalan as the backbone of diversity, which has the common language Catalan'.

http://www.vozbcn.com/2011/12/08/95357/colegios-publicos-adoctrinan-inmersion/

Carlos
29-01-12, 15:13
Spanair disaster as a symbol of Catalan nationalism.

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http://www.libremercado.com/2012-01-29/editorial-spanair-como-simbolo-del-desastre-nacionalista-62988/ (http://www.libremercado.com/2012-01-29/editorial-spanair-como-simbolo-del-desastre-nacionalista-62988/)

Much worse than the closure of Spanair, otherwise inevitable, had been artificially maintaining its operation with a public resource that is "Generalitat" (Catalan regional government) no longer to fund essential services.


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The end of air operations declared on Friday by the airline Spanair, prior to its closure, is the natural fate of companies held by nationalism with public money to pursue political goals.

The purchase of Spanair in 2008 was an absurd decision of the national tripartite Montilla to be chaired by a kind of company "flag" Catalan and to compete with Barajas (Madrid Airport), artificially promoting the development of interconnections from Barcelona airport to beat Grant. The acquisition of the airline, which involved the Catalan regional government to pull a small businessmen coming to power of nationalist, was advertised as a prerequisite for Barcelona airport to raise levels of "hubs" in London, Paris or Frankfurt , the largest knots of air links between Europe and the profitability that entails.

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The reality, four years after the start of the adventure, the company is owned by the Generalitat and Barcelona City Council through its private beach bars, not only helped to increase traffic from El Prat airport significantly, but has been called the closure a loss that, today, were unassumable despite continued public support by all agencies involved in its management. A subsidy scheme, by the way, whose excess has been the subject of several complaints by competitors, placing Spanair in the crosshairs of European authorities responsible for competition and making it impossible, as was the intention of Mas, which the "Generalitat" (regional Catalan government) continue injecting public funds to maintain a viable nationalist dream. Fortunately, it added, because so much worse than the closing, otherwise inevitable, had been artificially maintaining its operation with a public resource that is generally no longer to fund essential services.



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In an effort to have vanished 150 million euros from the pockets of all spanish taxpayers, not just taxpayers Catalan , and has been left in the street to two thousand employees of the airline. Catalan nationalism, incidentally, has imprinted his seal usual when it comes to managing complex issues, a picture with the treatment of Third World customers of the airline at the time of its abrupt closure had contracted and paid for their tickets.

If Spanair, as I said Montilla and always said Mas (Current president of the Catalan autonomous government) , should be an example of how a "country" drive is capable of meeting the challenges of the future, today everyone has a clear idea of ​​the mess that is able to organize a government puts his delusions regional nationalist when the most basic rationality.



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Carlos
03-02-12, 22:44
Health centers in Barcelona report in Arabic and not in Spanish.

The poster warns in Catalan, Arabic, English and Urdu, but not in Spanish, which was held on site emergency drills.

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After the rejection of the Catalan government to use Spanish in the health system, health centers of this community, you can see posters in all languages ​​except in Spanish. In a primary care center in Barcelona, you can see a notice indicating that in these medical facilities will be made periodically and without notice, medical emergency drills, reports periodistadigital.com. The authorities, in consideration of foreigners can come to the clinic, the notice translated from Catalan to three foreign languages​​: Arabic, English and Urdu (many Pakistanis live in Barcelona).

However, do not consider the information important to know patients who come from Latin American countries or other regions where people speak Spanish since there is no translation into this language.

This poster is consistent with the language policy imposed by the Government of Artur Mas, which requires doctors to communicate with patients in Catalan, but seek expert who does not understand that language-CiU forces doctors to speak only in Catalan with patients -.

http://www.intereconomia.com/noticias-gaceta/sociedad/los-centros-salud-barcelona-informan-arabe-y-no-castellano-20120203


The autonomous government in the hands of Catalan nationalism do this type of discriminatory action by the tantrum that is, seeking concessions and privileged at the expense of other Spanish regions, as happened before and during the dictatorship of Franco, but times have changed and that already is over.

Do not forget that it is the only place where you can not study in the national language of the country, and now seeing this kind of news one realizes the absurdity of outdated nationalism and imported from central Europe to this region of Spain for several centuries, is nonsense that makes our country Spain is delayed with this type of regional governments, real burdens for our development, for his inordinate ambition parochial and only know how to create discrimination, segregation and impoverishment.

Come as you have it a little clearer in Europe and the world, what are these!