Final thread.. which Europeans overlap with Levantines? Multiple choice.

Choose all that apply; which Europeans overlap with Lebanese, Syrians, etc.?

  • Russians

    Votes: 2 6.1%
  • Poles

    Votes: 2 6.1%
  • Croatians, Serbians, Bosnians

    Votes: 5 15.2%
  • Bulgarians

    Votes: 7 21.2%
  • Greeks

    Votes: 13 39.4%
  • Sicilians

    Votes: 21 63.6%
  • Albanians

    Votes: 6 18.2%
  • Italians

    Votes: 11 33.3%
  • Germans

    Votes: 3 9.1%
  • Spaniards

    Votes: 8 24.2%
  • Portuguese

    Votes: 8 24.2%
  • French

    Votes: 4 12.1%
  • Maltese

    Votes: 19 57.6%
  • British

    Votes: 2 6.1%
  • Dutch

    Votes: 2 6.1%
  • Scandinavian (Swedish, Danish etc)

    Votes: 1 3.0%
  • Czech or Slovakian

    Votes: 1 3.0%
  • Cypriots

    Votes: 23 69.7%
  • Hungarians

    Votes: 2 6.1%
  • Other (specify)

    Votes: 3 9.1%

  • Total voters
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Physically I mean. After this, I have no more questions.. but I think that unlike the North Africa thread, this one people can at least agree on one or two answers.
 
Are there no photos to have an idea as a whole?
 
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I don't know why are you so obsessed with the overlapping of non-europeans, seriously Oreo.
 
I voted for Cypriots, Maltese, Sicilians and Greeks. In the same order.
 
Mostly Eastern Med ethnicities - Greeks, Maltese, Sicilians
 
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Greeks, Sicilians, Italians, Spaniards, Portuguese, Cypriots, Hungarians.
 
Possibly some Balkanites. No overlap with the western end of Europe.
 
They look very Arabic to me and that's who they're: Arabs.
 
They look very Arabic to me and that's who they're: Arabs.

Surely you see different phenotypes comparing Levantines to Arabians though? "Arab" is more of a pan-ethnicity based on a shared language than a common ethnicity with a single phenotype. Lebanese people, for example, must inherit a lot of their genetic background from Phoenicians.
 
Surely you see different phenotypes comparing Levantines to Arabians though? "Arab" is more of a pan-ethnicity based on a shared language than a common ethnicity with a single phenotype. Lebanese people, for example, must inherit a lot of their genetic background from Phoenicians.
Many people think that Phoenicians were J2a folks from Northen Mesopotamia. I don't know how true that is. It seems that it is very popular that everybody link them to Northern Mesopotamia / Kurdistan. First we got Europeans who believe in the Anatolian hypothesis of INDO-Europeans, than the Jews claimed to be originally from Mesopotamia, then we got Arabs (J1 folks) and now the Levant folks?????

Anatolia is a very popular place to claim your origin, lol!

I don't know how Phoenicians did look like, but if they looked like the modern Levant population, I think that Phoenicians were Arabic (Semitic) too.

The modern Levant population is an admixture of Semites (Arabs) and Greeks. But in their appearance they're closer to other Arabs than Greeks. The Levant folks have very much hg. E and J1 too.
 
Levantines would be descendants of northern Semites (Phoenicians, Canaanites etc) more than Arabs.
 
Many people think that Phoenicians were J2a folks from Northen Mesopotamia. I don't know how true that is.

They probably had some J2a4 like modern Lebanese people unless the dating of modern J2a4 doesn't allow for it, I'm not sure. Diversity of J1 in the region seems to be higher than diversity of J2 in the region, so they probably had more of that. I doubt there is an unexpectedly strong bond between Levatines and Northern Mesopotamians otherwise. R1b, G2a, E1b, T, and L were likely also significant, although I admit I haven't analyzed Levantine Y-DNA closely.

It seems that it is very popular that everybody link them to Northern Mesopotamia / Kurdistan. First we got Europeans who believe in the Anatolian hypothesis of INDO-Europeans, than the Jews claimed to be originally from Mesopotamia, then we got Arabs (J1 folks) and now the Levant folks?????

It seems to me that you're being too sensitive to suspected encroachment onto Kurdish territory. Northern Mesopotamia was an important location in the development of agriculture, along with the rest of the Fertile Crescent, so it wouldn't be surprising to learn that early Northern Mesopotamians took that and spread elsewhere. That fact, if true, wouldn't take anything away from modern Kurdish land claims, don't worry.

The modern Levant population is an admixture of Semites (Arabs) and Greeks. But in their appearance they're closer to other Arabs than Greeks. The Levant folks have very much hg. E and J1 too.

Levatines seem more intermediate between Greeks and Arabians to me... although I suppose I would pick Arabians if I had to pick which one they are closer to phenotypically. It's a close call.
 
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