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spongetaro
24-10-11, 15:52
If we consider that Sarkozy was the liberal candidate in 2007 French presidential election, then your map works, except for Brittany and Flandre whose people voted Left like Central and Southwestern French.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Carte-presidentielle-2007-2etour.png/565px-Carte-presidentielle-2007-2etour.png

Maciamo
24-10-11, 17:55
If we consider that Sarkozy was the liberal candidate in 2007 French presidential election, then your map works, except for Brittany and Flandre whose people voted Left like Central and Southwestern French.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Carte-presidentielle-2007-2etour.png/565px-Carte-presidentielle-2007-2etour.png

The electoral maps actually reflects quite well the north-east vs south-west divide that is found in phenotypes (http://www.eupedia.com/forum/showthread.php?24932-Genetic-make-up-of-France), haplogroups (http://www.eupedia.com/europe/maps_Y-DNA_haplogroups.shtml), as well as in the individualism. The pink (Socialist) départments are mostly in the centre, west and southwest, corresponding to more collectivist regions. The most pro-Sarkozy départments are also the most individualistic.

spongetaro
24-10-11, 18:28
The electoral maps actually reflects quite well the north-east vs south-west divide that is found in phenotypes (http://www.eupedia.com/forum/showthread.php?24932-Genetic-make-up-of-France), haplogroups (http://www.eupedia.com/europe/maps_Y-DNA_haplogroups.shtml), as well as in the individualism. The pink (Socialist) départments are mostly in the centre, west and southwest, corresponding to more collectivist regions. The most pro-Sarkozy départments are also the most individualistic.

There's absolutely no cultural or ethnic link between Brittany, French Flander and Bearn (pink) as there is no link between French riviera and Alsace (blue).
Western France in general has always been more agricultural and less populated than industrial eastern France. As a result Eastern French regions are more densely populated and wealthier than the western one.
You also have to take into account that the blue area are not regions that voted for liberal policy but for anti immigration policy (especially Alsace and French riviera).

edao
24-10-11, 21:01
Interesting clip from a documentary about Sarkozy

Watch here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=N5MYAxNsASk#t=94s)

If we think of Individualism and Collectivism in an economic sense then we could say deregulation (anglo-american model) vs Regulated (French). The documentary talks about Sarkozys attempts to make the French economy more 'american', only to make a u-turn after the recession and proclaim the 'old French ways' to be better :rolleyes2:.

spongetaro
24-10-11, 21:58
If we think of Individualism and Collectivism in an economic sense then we could say deregulation (anglo-american model) vs Regulated (French). The documentary talks about Sarkozys attempts to make the French economy more 'american', only to make a u-turn after the recession and proclaim the 'old French ways' to be better :rolleyes2:.

Lol that's typicall of Sarkozy!


Concerning UK being less regulated, less collectivist I agree with you. Also it seems that there is some desire to go back to more colletivist economic:
Today's most commented article on the Guardian website is called
I miss the Britain of compassion and public ownership. Can we have it back please?