Yaan
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- Location
- Sofia
- Ethnic group
- Bulgarian
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- J-L70
- mtDNA haplogroup
- H2a2a1
I have a couple of questions regarding the haplogroups of the Bulgarians.
1. The Y DNA samples,seem not to be right,there are up to now not a lot of studies on Bulgarians.In 23andme there are like 30 samples, in Family Tree like 170(100 Y DNA), and there are 2-3 more which are never more then 150-170 samples,so it is totally inconclusive, still the frequencies for E(V13) vary from 18% to 22 and I2a is between 27% and 35%,yet here they are different. I do remember that the frequencies for Bulgarian I2a was 33% but because of nationalistic Croat who felt offended that such " Croatian" haplogroup such be observed in such high levels in Bulgarians it was changed. Also Bulgarians in all samples have more R1a (14%-20%,in bigger study maybe more) then R1b which is in most studies really law. J2 is just about right. G2a is high in Bulgarians in all of the studies at least 5 %,and the most in the Balkan if we do not count Turkey. There is a really big sample of almost 860 people now, so when the results come you can change them, maybe there would be not need,but I think there will be. So we can just wait. There is not 250 samples in the study of Bulgarians here!
;2. The mtDNA is not right, I will give a link to a extremely big sample study.Would you please, change it. The people tested in this study were man,so Y DNA is also coming soon.They are also in the processof testing 100remains of people from Bulgaria from the Antic times until the Middle Ages.
3. I would like to ask why in this forum J2 is seen as Middle Eastern,sure it can also be observed there,and the roots are there, but saying J2 is Mesopotamian only is like saying R1a is Indian and R1b Anatolian. J2 in Europa should be market as Med or Balkan!Also E(V13) is hard core European it is observed almost exclusively in Europe in the Middle east and North Africa there is more G2a and R1b than E(V13)Thanks in advance for your attention and keep on the good work!
1. The Y DNA samples,seem not to be right,there are up to now not a lot of studies on Bulgarians.In 23andme there are like 30 samples, in Family Tree like 170(100 Y DNA), and there are 2-3 more which are never more then 150-170 samples,so it is totally inconclusive, still the frequencies for E(V13) vary from 18% to 22 and I2a is between 27% and 35%,yet here they are different. I do remember that the frequencies for Bulgarian I2a was 33% but because of nationalistic Croat who felt offended that such " Croatian" haplogroup such be observed in such high levels in Bulgarians it was changed. Also Bulgarians in all samples have more R1a (14%-20%,in bigger study maybe more) then R1b which is in most studies really law. J2 is just about right. G2a is high in Bulgarians in all of the studies at least 5 %,and the most in the Balkan if we do not count Turkey. There is a really big sample of almost 860 people now, so when the results come you can change them, maybe there would be not need,but I think there will be. So we can just wait. There is not 250 samples in the study of Bulgarians here!
;2. The mtDNA is not right, I will give a link to a extremely big sample study.Would you please, change it. The people tested in this study were man,so Y DNA is also coming soon.They are also in the processof testing 100remains of people from Bulgaria from the Antic times until the Middle Ages.
3. I would like to ask why in this forum J2 is seen as Middle Eastern,sure it can also be observed there,and the roots are there, but saying J2 is Mesopotamian only is like saying R1a is Indian and R1b Anatolian. J2 in Europa should be market as Med or Balkan!Also E(V13) is hard core European it is observed almost exclusively in Europe in the Middle east and North Africa there is more G2a and R1b than E(V13)Thanks in advance for your attention and keep on the good work!