Thanks again. I prefer the ISOGG classifications to the genetics testing company ones, as they seem both safe, yet more up to date and its a consistant model I can use.
Could i ask you to ellaborate on the last sentence?:
"This branch is usually recognized as Anglo-Saxon in the context of the British Isles, due to the way it is distributed in Germany and elsewhere."
What we have found, we think, with the Langton DNA project, is that the dna tends to represent not British, but Norman dna. When we started the project we expected to get 70% group R, but we didnt, and the group R results that we did get were unusual, with rare mutations meaning that they had relatively few matches.
Being a place-name surname, we have been able to trace the origin of almost all of the Langton families back to a Langton village from which they took the name shortly after the conquest, when they owned land in these villages according to many 12th and 13th century charters that we have seen. Therefore, we think this means that they were Norman, or those who were involved with the Normans in the invasion.
I say this last part because my own DNA (see Joel Langton in the table) is a rare J2a3d without any matches in England and our closest (both geographically and genetically) is a guy in Belgium, whose family come from Gent, and it was Gilbert of Ghent who owned the village of Langton by Horncastle in Lincolnshire, having helped out in the invasion and being granted lands there.
Though this may be the case overal, it doenst mean it applies to all Langtons, and although I2a2a3a may not be that common in Britian, we havent been able to trace this particular persons family back to a Langton village origin, so his origin is still very much open to interpretation.
Best
Joel