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8mike
13-08-12, 21:39
Hi, i recently read Vladimir Orel's etymological dictionary for Albanian language and i saw that no clear etymology exists for the word "zëmër" meaning "heart". Thinking about the sound shifts i initially thought about something like *widza-muna and i thought that there can exist some connection to "flamur" (i was thinking about *awalamuna) where the second part (*muna) may refer to "movement" or something like this. Can anybody sort this out? also, can you tell me if i am doing things right with the sound-shift reconstruction?

Zeus10
29-08-12, 20:40
Hi, i recently read Vladimir Orel's etymological dictionary for Albanian language and i saw that no clear etymology exists for the word "zëmër" meaning "heart". Thinking about the sound shifts i initially thought about something like *widza-muna and i thought that there can exist some connection to "flamur" (i was thinking about *awalamuna) where the second part (*muna) may refer to "movement" or something like this. Can anybody sort this out? also, can you tell me if i am doing things right with the sound-shift reconstruction?



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dr.dubwise
25-10-12, 09:01
Its actually zemër f, pl. zemra 'heart; middle'

from etymological perspective I personally think it's somehow related to Sanskrit

SANSKRIT: samer (create)
SANSKRIT: samira (god of wind)

other possible relations

PASHTU: zaru (heart)
NURISTANI: ziri (heart)

Finalise
09-12-12, 20:34
probably comes from PIE ḱḗr, ḱ-> z

gentius
26-03-13, 18:25
Hi, I think that "zemer" derives from z+m= zeri im which mean "my voice". Zemer in tosk dialect, Zemen i geg dialectI thought that albanian was composed and was based on two letters, but rather, language is based on one letter

MOESAN
27-03-13, 14:35
probably comes from PIE ḱḗr, ḱ-> z



in these languages (ordiinary satem ones, indo-iranian) PIE *K' give rather /SH/ I believe, and /Z/ or /ZH/ come rather from < *G' - concerning albanian I do'nt know in details: sometimes *G' >> DH, so...