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I am talking in terms of ftdna.
How exactly would one join the i1 project and what is so rare about i1a?
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Anyone test positve for Z2541? What have your learned about it and the cluster group you belong too? I am awaiting results which will probaly be about a month away - ouch!
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Z2541 (formerly "ESc-13" I think) is a curious clade... a bit of an outlier among the West Germanic Z58 clades, and entirely confined to Scotland or near Scotland. Could be an example of early drift out of the proto-Germanic population into Celtic British populations. (Or maybe we just haven't found the later Continental source population yet.)
On the most recent chart in my Project there are three men who test positive for this SNP and their earliest ancestors were from NOR and PRT (guessing Portugal), the last guys was USA. And Nordtvedt's recent tree still has this with ESc-13 w/ a ? beside it. By the way why does he lable it 'ES' and not AS - I thought AS stood for Anglo-Saxon? What is ES?
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I'm not sure what ES stands for. East Scotland?
Anyway, great to hear that we're starting to find continental samples of it. Makes more sense in that case. Maybe we're looking a North Germanic Z58 clade? Norway, Portugal, and Scotland, hm...
Britains DNA have tested my Y-DNA and report markers are carried for M258, M253 and S438 which, according to ISOGG (2013), indicates a haplogroup of I1a. As I don't carry a marker for M227, S142, S244 or S243, I'm not I1a1, I1a2, I1a3 or I1a4 respectively but simply I1a*. Does anyone know of any details for this specific subgroup such as distribution or frequency?
A lot of what is now lowland scotland was settled by angles in the early period of anglo saxon migrations and that area was then in england and following the norman conquest and subsequent waste by William the bastard fled into lowland Scotland so I1 dna would not be unusual in Scotland especialy if it is germanic as opposed to norse value.
A lot of what is now lowland scotland was settled by angles in the early period of anglo saxon migrations and that area was then in england and following the norman conquest and subsequent waste by William the bastard fled into lowland Scotland so I1 dna would not be unusual in Scotland especialy if it is germanic as opposed to norse value.
Sorry I had to correct. Norse are Germanic too. So talking about German and Norse would makes more sense since Germanic includes the Norse too.
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