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joechill01
01-02-13, 07:38
Hello everyone, I am R1b1a2a1a1b* p312/s116 and am going to order to test the z196 snp. I just wanted to know if I come positive for z196 would that hint to a Iberian origin? I want to really narrow down the large p312 cluster into a specific area and been given some snps by ftdna Z209, Z220, Z216, Z278, Z214 and M153. I know M153 is Basque origin but what about the other Z snps? Is it possible to separate them into Portuguese, Spanish or French and pin point what region my first ancestor came from?

joechill01
10-02-13, 21:56
Hello? Is there no one on this site who can help a guy out?

spruithean
10-02-13, 22:34
Hello everyone, I am R1b1a2a1a1b* p312/s116 and am going to order to test the z196 snp. I just wanted to know if I come positive for z196 would that hint to a Iberian origin? I want to really narrow down the large p312 cluster into a specific area and been given some snps by ftdna Z209, Z220, Z216, Z278, Z214 and M153. I know M153 is Basque origin but what about the other Z snps? Is it possible to separate them into Portuguese, Spanish or French and pin point what region my first ancestor came from?

Z196 could indicate Iberian origin on Eupedia's very own page for Haplogroup R1b it has a chart and for SNP Z196 it says
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Z196
R1b1a2a1a1b2
4,800 ybp
Iberia, Southwest France
Celtiberians, Iberians, Basques, Gascons


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ht tp: //www . eupedia. com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA. shtml, I can't link yet so copy paste the link (just remove spaces).

Use the page search function for P312 and Z196.

joechill01
11-02-13, 05:15
thanks for the help spruithean

adamo
28-04-13, 18:00
P-312 is found most frequently in Iberia ( Spain/Portugal) and southwestern France. The levels get very high in Spain and Portugal slightly less for France with a french high in south-western/central France.