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zanipolo
21-02-13, 23:17
for interest

http://www.genomac.cz/en/view.php?cisloclanku=2006080010
Anthro-inclined
22-02-13, 19:24
Good info. Also this article contradicts alot of claims of neolithic arrivals for T and K, but is consistent with paleothic origins on the others, except of course for J, which seems to be a pretty sure fire marker of a Neolithic expansion.
zanipolo
22-02-13, 21:36
Good info. Also this article contradicts alot of claims of neolithic arrivals for T and K, but is consistent with paleothic origins on the others, except of course for J, which seems to be a pretty sure fire marker of a Neolithic expansion.

The reason explained why Italy has the lowest H marker in Europe ( 33%) is due to T and K being "Italian" markers.

T in northwest Italy
K in northeast Italy
V in the Pyrenees clearly says that all ancient MtDna are created in mountainous areas
Anthro-inclined
22-02-13, 21:42
Interesting, new outlook on some of thes Mtdna's, I still have trouble with K though, because a lot of people claim that it (or one of its clades) is related to the Jewish diaspora, seems to be a hazy one if you ask me. But its still interesting that they believe K to be the same age and relative origin as V(both 17000 years old, and southern European).
Knovas
22-02-13, 22:31
Only K1a1b1a, K2a2a, and K1a9, imply signals of Jewish ancestry. The vast majority of K subclades in Europe have nothing to do with this .
Anthro-inclined
22-02-13, 22:39
Only K1a1b1a, K2a2a, and K1a9, imply signals of Jewish ancestry. The vast majority of K subclades in Europe have nothing to do with this .
Interesting Thanks For The Clarifacation.
Grubbe
12-05-13, 16:03
Good info. Also this article contradicts alot of claims of neolithic arrivals for T and K, but is consistent with paleothic origins on the others, except of course for J, which seems to be a pretty sure fire marker of a Neolithic expansion.

According to this study http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/28418-MtDNA-J-amp-T-colonised-Europe-from-the-Near-East-in-the-late-Paleolithic-amp-Mesolithic (http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/28418-MtDNA-J-amp-T-colonised-Europe-from-the-Near-East-in-the-late-Paleolithic-amp-Mesolithic) also hg J is older in Europe than previously thought.