K36 from Eurogenes

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When the analysis is so fine grained, then it will probably show more the recent geographic proximities rather than ancient ancestries, I guess. But Fst distances might overcome this problem.
 
When the analysis is so fine grained, then it will probably show more the recent geographic proximities rather than ancient ancestries, I guess. But Fst distances might overcome this problem.

Not sure... that's what he writes:

Also worth mentioning is that this test focuses on much deeper ancestry than the Ancestry Composition at 23andMe. Hence, I expect that all Europeans will score a few percent in non-European clusters. However, like many ADMIXTURE results, this could give us strong hints about population movements into Europe during prehistory and early history, so it's worth keeping an eye on.
 
Not sure... that's what he writes:

Also worth mentioning is that this test focuses on much deeper ancestry than the Ancestry Composition at 23andMe. Hence, I expect that all Europeans will score a few percent in non-European clusters. However, like many ADMIXTURE results, this could give us strong hints about population movements into Europe during prehistory and early history, so it's worth keeping an eye on.

Thanks, that's the opposite of what I expected. Maybe he means that it can reveal new unknown ancient connections, regardless if there will be also more geographically flawed ones. But I don't want to comment too much without enough expert knowledge.
 
Has anyone tried a new calculator?

http://bga101.blogspot.com.es/2013/03/eurogenes-k36-at-gedmatch.html

My results:

31.04% North_Caucasian
18.68% West_Caucasian
16.76% Near_Eastern
15.57% East_Mediterranean
10.87% Armenian
4.91% South_Central_Asian

You can download the necessary files from here:

https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=5223...re&Bpub=SDX.SkyDrive&authkey=!AshoKjpmkqRu3tw


I presume all the other markers are 0% for you

I will see what eurogenes has for me in in this K36 test. I will let you know.

The last 2tests from eurogenes has/had me as , between 70-90% North_Italian and at least 10% south-Finnish or west-Finnish. Then about 3% udmurt.

FTDNA latest revamp of their database under a new system has my mtdna dropping from 750 matches to 5 matches. Counting for 1 or 2 steps....the only one step is Finnish ....autosmals could be getting better.
The other 4 matches , are Hessen and Altenkircken in Germany, Hirzel in Switzerland and Ljunglay Sweden.

But I was also thrown out of H2 haplogroup and I am awaiting a new subclade.
 
italian16,68
east med10,62
near eastern8,59
central euro8,28
armenian8,13
east balkan7
north sea6,44
east central euro6,24
iberian5,79
west caucasian4,87
north caucasian4,85
west med4,76
basque2,96
north atlantic2,58
french1,43
arabian0,49
eastern euro0,28

the rest are all 0% for me
 
Interesting results, thanks for sharing!
 
22.01% Fennoscandian
18.86% North_Sea
15.02% North_Atlantic
8.34% French
7.94% East_Central_Euro
7.38% Iberian
7.20% Eastern_Euro
6.38% North_Caucasian
5.19% Central_Euro
1.07% Basque
0.41% Amerindian
0.19% Italian
0.01% South_Central_Asian

The North Caucasian seems very strange considering my Norwegian/Finnish heritage...although people have actually been telling me I don't look Norwegian, even other Norwegians at times
 
North Caucasian component itself might be a mix of autochtones with Scytho-Sarmat-Goth. Paleo autosoms from that area will clarify the issue.
 
mine

Population
Amerindian-
Arabian0.31%
Armenian1.11%
Basque1.26%
Central_African-
Central_Euro2.43%
East_African-
East_Asian-
East_Balkan5.57%
East_Central_Asian-
East_Central_Euro4.89%
East_Med5.51%
Eastern_Euro4.52%
Fennoscandian-
French2.84%
Iberian11.87%
Indo-Chinese-
Italian20.84%
Malayan-
Near_Eastern4.82%
North_African-
North_Atlantic11.29%
North_Caucasian0.49%
North_Sea9.82%
Northeast_African-
Oceanian-
Omotic-
Pygmy-
Siberian-
South_Asian0.13%
South_Central_Asian-
South_Chinese-
Volga-Ural0.60%
West_African-
West_Caucasian2.80%
West_Med8.90%


where is west-caucasus?
 
Interesting results. West Caucasus = Western Georgia (Colchis) + Adighe/Circassia
 
Mine from Gedmatch:

Population
Amerindian-
Arabian-
Armenian-
Basque6.05%
Central_African-
Central_Euro0.79%
East_African-
East_Asian-
East_Balkan1.60%
East_Central_Asian-
East_Central_Euro2.03%
East_Med2.49%
Eastern_Euro3.84%
Fennoscandian1.54%
French5.85%
Iberian29.83%
Indo-Chinese-
Italian19.92%
Malayan-
Near_Eastern-
North_African2.45%
North_Atlantic8.56%
North_Caucasian-
North_Sea6.41%
Northeast_African-
Oceanian-
Omotic-
Pygmy-
Siberian-
South_Asian-
South_Central_Asian-
South_Chinese-
Volga-Ural-
West_African-
West_Caucasian-
West_Med8.61%

More or less as expected.
 
Interesting results. West Caucasus = Western Georgia (Colchis) + Adighe/Circassia

?

stated is
West_Caucasian = Abhkasian
West_Caucasian = Georgian

North_Sea = Kent

North_Caucasian = Adygei + Balkar + Chechen + Kumyk + Lezgin + North_Ossetian

North_Atlantic = Cornish

Italian = North_Italian + Tuscan only

East_Balkan = Bulgarian + Romanian only

Basque = French_Basque only.......spanish basque is Iberian
 
Thanks Zanipolo. Yes, actually we were checking with Polaco about this matter.
The point is modern Abkhaz are mixture of wets Georgians and Adygei people.
But anyway main problem is that all Georgians get higher North Caucasian component than West Caucasian. There is some miscalculation in that respect..
 
italian16,68
east med10,62
near eastern8,59
central euro8,28
armenian8,13
east balkan7
north sea6,44
east central euro6,24
iberian5,79
west caucasian4,87
north caucasian4,85
west med4,76
basque2,96
north atlantic2,58
french1,43
arabian0,49
eastern euro0,28

the rest are all 0% for me

Italian 16.42%
Iberian 9.07%
North_Sea 8.16%
East_Med 6.98%
Eastern_Euro 6.68%
East_Balkan 6.65%
Near_Eastern 6.65%
Fennoscandian 6.64%
North_Atlantic 5.59%
East_Central_Euro 5.21%
French 4.67%
West_Med 3.89%
Central_Euro 3.67%
West_Caucasian 3.01%
Armenian 2.74%
Volga-Ural 1.12%
approx. 98% total
 
Western Ukrainian from Boyko highlanders ethnographic group:
East_Cent_Euro 17.18%
Eastern_Euro 13.04%
Italian 12.57%
Iberian 11.30%
Central_Euro 8.71%
East_Balkan 8.52%
North_Atlantic 4.69%
East_Med 4.20%
Fennoscandian 4.10%
French 3.22%
North_Sea 2.94%
Volga-Ural 2.93%
North_Caucasian2.50%
Basque 2.09%
Armenian 1.07%
West_Med 0.63%
West_Caucasian 0.30%
 
Italian 16.42%
Iberian 9.07%
North_Sea 8.16%
East_Med 6.98%
Eastern_Euro 6.68%
East_Balkan 6.65%
Near_Eastern 6.65%
Fennoscandian 6.64%
North_Atlantic 5.59%
East_Central_Euro 5.21%
French 4.67%
West_Med 3.89%
Central_Euro 3.67%
West_Caucasian 3.01%
Armenian 2.74%
Volga-Ural 1.12%
approx. 98% total
Are you fully Greek if i may ask?
 
I am British, here are mine:

North_Sea 19.47%
North_Atlantic 16.32%
Iberian 12.61%
Fennoscandian 11.36%
Italian 11.18%
East_Central_Euro 8.92%
Central_Euro 6.77%
French 4.67%
Eastern_Euro 3.50%
West_Med 1.39%
East_Balkan 1.34%
South_Central_Asian 1.34%
 
Arabian3.30%
Armenian19.12%
Basque-
Central_African-
Central_Euro0.93%
East_African-
East_Asian-
East_Balkan0.17%
East_Central_Asian-
East_Central_Euro-
East_Med12.56%
Eastern_Euro-
Fennoscandian-
French0.35%
Iberian-
Indo-Chinese-
Italian7.95%
Malayan-
Near_Eastern14.03%
North_African-
North_Atlantic-
North_Caucasian18.73%
North_Sea-
Northeast_African-
Oceanian-
Omotic-
Pygmy-
Siberian-
South_Asian-
South_Central_Asian2.89%
South_Chinese-
Volga-Ural-
West_African-
West_Caucasian16.54%
West_Med3.42%


I am a Turk From Turkey with a HG R-M269.
I have 23 people in my Y-DNA12 match list.
All my matches are European except one who is a Georgian and the only one in my 25 marker match list.
 

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