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tjlowery87
12-04-13, 23:28
is haplogroup I the hunter gatherers of Europe?

Degredado
13-04-13, 01:44
Pretty much, yes.

Jackson
14-04-13, 15:13
Not any more, we are all farmers.
But anyway we need to find direct evidence before we can be sure, but I is the best candidate. Although we know that U5 and U4 made up the vast majority of mt lines for these earlier hunter gatherers.

tjlowery87
16-04-13, 04:23
so what is the I/j haplogroup and where did it originate

Anthro-inclined
16-04-13, 04:40
so what is the I/j haplogroup and where did it originate
A very rare IJ lineage was discovered in a genetic study of an Iranian population in 2012, so it seems most probable that it originated in Iran or somewhere west of the Zagros in the Middle East, of course this is my speculation, and can be completely false.
www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0041252 (http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0041252)
"Y chromosomes F-M89* and IJ-M429* were observed in the Iranian plateau: the first represents the ancestral state of the main Euro-Asiatic haplogroups [36] while the second probably moved toward southeast Europe sometime before the Last Glacial Maximum where it differentiated into the “western Eurasian” haplogroup."

diverclic
02-06-13, 00:41
A very rare IJ lineage was discovered in a genetic study of an Iranian population in 2012, so it seems most probable that it originated in Iran or somewhere west of the Zagros in the Middle East, of course this is my speculation, and can be completely false.
"Y chromosomes F-M89* and IJ-M429* were observed in the Iranian plateau: the first represents the ancestral state of the main Euro-Asiatic haplogroups [36] while the second probably moved toward southeast Europe sometime before the Last Glacial Maximum where it differentiated into the “western Eurasian” haplogroup."
This is interesting but hard to find any detail in the article on the IJ-M429* case. Any 10 STR marker haplotype ?