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tjlowery87
28-04-13, 00:29
heres a question(just for fun)if i1 in the brittish isles didn't get there from germanics peoples,with what culture,people did it get there with,.......just make a guess,it s all in fun.

spruithean
28-04-13, 02:53
heres a question(just for fun)if i1 in the brittish isles didn't get there from germanics peoples,with what culture,people did it get there with,.......just make a guess,it s all in fun.

Interesting question...

Perhaps I1 would pop up in some Celtic groups perhaps or with pre-Celtic groups?

adamo
28-04-13, 09:59
Either from Scandinavian genetic influence ( strictly I1) or possibly I1 may have had a minor sub-branch that left the main horde ( those going from Germany into southern Scandinavia) and already, at that time, started heading from continental Europe into England. But in my opinion what is I1 in England was predominantly from minor Scandinavian genetic influence, if not even entirely.

tjlowery87
28-04-13, 20:28
hey thanks for your answears I appreciate it

Jackson
04-05-13, 02:59
The next best candidate would be pre-Celtic peoples in the Isles or Belgic peoples, i would think.

tjlowery87
04-05-13, 06:24
i think the parsii tribe of Yorkshire my have had a little of i1 dna,being related to the parsii of gaul

adamo
04-05-13, 07:16
The Parisi, from which modern day Parisians derive their name where a Celtic tribe of R1b stock.

tjlowery87
05-05-13, 00:26
I wonder how i1p got to the isles (not including recent migration)

MOESAN
05-05-13, 00:57
for the fun? OK
my opinion is made for a long time: the huge majority of Y-I1 in the Isles and Ireland came from 1) continental germanic people - 2) scandinavian (viking) germanic people -
In don't think the Parisi nor the Belgae tribes had a big I1 element, nor the Celts as a whole - maybe some very rare subclades of Y-I1 could have been present at low levels in celtic tribes, but I think they are not heavy in the mixture -
very often I saw posts linking I1 more to Vikings than to continental germanics, but even the Frisons have a good % of Y-I1... It appears even that the small groups of Vikings in the West of the Isles underwent a striking genetical drift and lost Y-I1 in favor of Y-R1a and Y-Q - look at Scotland %s for Y-I1 -

spruithean
05-05-13, 03:31
The Parisi, from which modern day Parisians derive their name where a Celtic tribe of R1b stock.

Bold claim that is, to assume you know the haplogroup of a tribe. Tribes welcome members overtime, anything is possible and nothing is certain.

zanipolo
05-05-13, 03:42
I though the parisi where Belgae gauls and associated with the parisi in SE England

adamo
05-05-13, 04:23
Of R1b stock in both of those , yes