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adamo
10-06-13, 10:43
The ancient Elymians conquered extreme western Sicily, they split the island with sicani and siculi people, who where ethnically different. Their most important cities where Segesta, Entella, Eryx, Iatae, Drepanon etc. Some say that they arrived from Anatolia ad where a sea people's sub-group. The Greeks identified them as descendants of conquered Trojans/Trojan war refuges landing in Sicily. But what if they where not ANATOLIANS and where Elamites instead? The Elamites lived in what is now today extreme southwestern Iran. Situated just east of mesopotamia, their capital was Susa. Their kingdom stretched from Susa in the west to Anshan in the east. Their kingdom lies on top of a 10-13% stretch area of haplogroup T. Western Sicily also has higher than normal haplogroup T stretches, for example Sciacca, not too far from ancient Elymians territory has some 17% haplogroup T. Maybe there is a link between Elamites/bakhtiaris/lurs people and Elymians or certain other rare areas of Europe here and there? Some of those areas have some of the worlds highest % of haplogroup T. (Town in western Sicily, Elamite region of Iran).

Cyrus
03-08-19, 16:37
The similarity between the names of Elymians and Elamites is really interesting, but we know an Indo-European people with the name of Elymais also lived in the west of Iran, Elamites called themselves Haltamti, it is possible that the name of Elam in the Semitic sources is actually from the name of Elymais. In many ancient sources Elam/Susiana and Elymais were two different lands: http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0064:entry=elymais-geo

Cyrus
03-08-19, 17:33
Elamite/Elymais rock reliefs in Kurangun (southwest of Fars/Persia): https://www.livius.org/articles/place/kurangun/

https://www.livius.org/site/assets/files/13037/kurangun_drawing.jpg

The god wears a horned crown and holds a bowl or a cup from which some smoke or vapor escapes, spreading above at the top of the scene. Behind him sits a female deity.

http://www.farschto.ir/images/shiraz/ku1.jpg

http://www.farschto.ir/images/shiraz/ku4.jpg

Earliest Ionic architecture in Kurangun: https://books.google.com/books?id=3IKoh75RI38C&pg=PA269&lpg=PA269&dq=&source=web&ots=CyDhZSwTBt&sig=FVeY547lBFBLiX7uP06oealBAT4&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=10&ct=result#v=onepage&q&f=false


A remote and quite different "earliest" Ionic building, one with columns (or at any rate half-columns) that support brackets ending in scrolled-spiral capitals, is not strictly speaking a building, but a tomb cut into the rock at Da-u-Dukhtar, near Kurangun (about 50 km north of Kazerun), in southwest Persia.

https://www.asasara.com/uploads/images/tourism/1534175204_5b71a7e4226d0.jpeg

https://www.stilus.nl/oudheid/wdo/GEO/D/PLAATJES/DAUDUKH.jpg