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Sile
25-09-13, 08:14
Reading information on the ancient river the OXUS by Greek historians, I found that it begins in tajikstan, uzbekistan,north pakistan and chinese border areas, the river in ancient times ran to the ARAL sea, then to the CASPIAN sea and then to the BLACK sea. Historians have said the indo-europeans began there journey into europe from here, as per NATGeno and FTDNA sites to name two.
The most ancient people are the Wakhi people, who have green, blue, grey and hazel colured eyes in majority , have "european" features with about 10% mongoliad
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=wakhi&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=231CUo2SKcvtiAfQxIGQBA&ved=0CEAQsAQ&biw=1427&bih=712&dpr=1.25

The Wakhi are iranic people who became the scythians ( part of )
http://www.zygmontek.com/wakhan/wakhan.html


There language is linked to my surprise with the Ossetians.

The ossetians are a complex people, North Ossetia and South Ossetia are completely different, why?
http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/ossetians.html

genetics
32% I*, 29% J2*, 21% G* = 82%
Did IJ split apart in ossetia ?

language
Ossetic is among the remnants of the Scytho-Sarmatian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scytho-Sarmatian) dialect group which was once spoken across Central Asia. Other surviving languages closely related to Ossetic are Yaghnobi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaghnobi_language),[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossetians#cite_note-Iranica-21) Pashto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashto_language)[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossetians#cite_note-Iranica-21) and Pamiri languages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamiri_languages),[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossetians#cite_note-Iranica-21) all spoken more than 2,000 km to the east in Afghanistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan), northwestern Pakistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan) and some parts of Tajikistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tajikistan).

Ossetian and pamir/wakhi language belong to this
http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/eastern-iranian-languages

homeland of indo-europeans
http://dienekes.blogspot.com.au/2013/06/indo-european-homeland-and-migrations.html (http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/eastern-iranian-languages)

MOESAN
27-09-13, 21:33
Today Ossetians are, I think, the result of the mixing of genuine Caucasus (almost) autochtones with the Alani or Alans, considered as a sarmatian branch, so akin too to the Scythians, and, I think, dominantly Y-R1a (for males!) -
the quality of the Y-G2a of Caucasians don't evoque the other Y-G of South Asia and are closer to the Y-G2a of neolithical Europe even if not identical today - so I doubt the Ossetian populations are pure descendants of Alani, only partly - and the Alani were supposed to be the male dominant elite, when we see how low is R1a there, so... linguists say apart from the I-Ean iranic basis, today ossetian language is full of non-I-E words, even grammar would be affected, according to someones (but I now all problems of ethnic origin are complicated in Balkans and Caucasus...)

Alan
02-10-13, 01:19
Reading information on the ancient river the OXUS by Greek historians, I found that it begins in tajikstan, uzbekistan,north pakistan and chinese border areas, the river in ancient times ran to the ARAL sea, then to the CASPIAN sea and then to the BLACK sea. Historians have said the indo-europeans began there journey into europe from here, as per NATGeno and FTDNA sites to name two.
The most ancient people are the Wakhi people, who have green, blue, grey and hazel colured eyes in majority , have "european" features with about 10% mongoliad
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=wakhi&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=231CUo2SKcvtiAfQxIGQBA&ved=0CEAQsAQ&biw=1427&bih=712&dpr=1.25

The Wakhi are iranic people who became the scythians ( part of )
http://www.zygmontek.com/wakhan/wakhan.html


There language is linked to my surprise with the Ossetians.

The ossetians are a complex people, North Ossetia and South Ossetia are completely different, why?
http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/ossetians.html

genetics
32% I*, 29% J2*, 21% G* = 82%
Did IJ split apart in ossetia ?

language
Ossetic is among the remnants of the Scytho-Sarmatian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scytho-Sarmatian) dialect group which was once spoken across Central Asia. Other surviving languages closely related to Ossetic are Yaghnobi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaghnobi_language),[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossetians#cite_note-Iranica-21) Pashto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashto_language)[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossetians#cite_note-Iranica-21) and Pamiri languages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamiri_languages),[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossetians#cite_note-Iranica-21) all spoken more than 2,000 km to the east in Afghanistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan), northwestern Pakistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan) and some parts of Tajikistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tajikistan).

Ossetian and pamir/wakhi language belong to this
http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/eastern-iranian-languages

homeland of indo-europeans
(http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/eastern-iranian-languages)http://dienekes.blogspot.com.au/2013/06/indo-european-homeland-and-migrations.html



Strabo mentions that the Sarmatians were called Caucasii. This indicates that they lived in the Caucasus already before the Hunnic expansion.

Sile
03-10-13, 08:24
Strabo mentions that the Sarmatians were called Caucasii. This indicates that they lived in the Caucasus already before the Hunnic expansion.

Did the sarmatians really reach the Crimea or was it the Scythians...these are different people , although some say they are the same.