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tjlowery87
29-09-13, 22:49
hello does any one know any more websites that show r1b u1o6 as 20 percent in England??????thanks

Fire Haired
30-09-13, 02:27
According to the map on this website which is very accurate U106 is 20-30% in English and most lowlander Scottish. It is not 20-30% in Cornish and Welsh who live in England but are not English and are technically Celtic Britons and their language is still spoken. You probably understand ethnic groups in the UK a lot better than me since you live there. The lowlander Scots have their own Anglo Saxon language related to English called Scots. Highlander Scottish have a Celtic Gealic language which came from the Scotia out of Ireland in the middle ages. Italo Celtic R1b1a2a1a2 P312/S116 is about 80% or so in Highlands of Scotland, Ireland, Wales, and Cornwall the vast majority being under subclade R1b1a2a1a2c L21.

Here is a map of Germanic R1b1a2a1a1 S21/U106.
http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-R1b-S21.gif

Map of Italo Celtic R1b1a2a1a2 P312/S116
http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/Celtic_Europe.gif

Map of Celtic R1b1a2a1a2c L21
http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-R1b-L21.gif

The proto Germanic Italo Celtic speakers would have arrived in central Europe about 5,000 years ago with R1b1a2a1a L11. Quickly they split into Italo Celtic R1b1a2a1a2 P312 and Germanic R1b1a2a1a1 U106 but there are some very very rare Germanic branches of P312 which are L238 and Df19. proto Germanic's migrated north about 3,500-4,500ybp while Italo Celts stayed in central Europe. Celts migrated deep into western Europe about 3,500-4,500ybp forming into branches R1b1a2a1a2a Df27 and R1b1a2a1a2c L21. In central Europe R1b P312 became mainly under subclade R1b1a2a1a2b S28/U152 and it spread with Urnfield culture(1,300-750bc). Urnfield and R1b S28 spread with Italian languages to Italy. and in central Europe formed into Celtic Hallstat then La Tene culture which spread it even more.
http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/R1b-migration-map.jpg (http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/R1b-migration-map.jpg)
East Germanic tribes Vandals and Goths spread to 1-5% in eastern Europe. Since Germanic people were extremely successful in the early middle ages at one time or another every spot in western Europe was in a Germanic kingdom. They were able to spread R1b S21 to Italy, France, Sicily, and even parts of Iberia. Southern Britain was conquered by Germanic tribes Jutes, Angeals, and Saxons from about 400-600ad all coming from around Netherlands and Denmark. They conquered and ruled differently than for example Franks in France and Lombards in Italy. They slaughtered the Britons and made Britain their home like they brought their families. I don't know that much about the historical that well so I may be wrong. But that would be why R1b S21 and I1 are so popular in England and lowlands of Scotland.

Also why red hair is 10-15% in Highlands of Scotland, Wales, Cornwall, and Ireland but is 5-10% in England and lowlands of Scotland like Netherlands and most of Denmark. And why fair hair is much more popular in England lowlands of Scotland and areas in highlands of Scotland attacked by Vikings same reason i1 would be 15% in that area.

tjlowery87
30-09-13, 02:37
thanks for the reply