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Sile
18-10-13, 08:40
Reading through this paper

http://www.academia.edu/1782536/Verifying_archaeological_hypotheses_Investigations _on_origin_and_genealogical_lineages_of_a_privileg ed_society_in_Upper_Bavaria_from_Imperial_Roman_ti mes_Erding_Kletthamer_Feld_

for the T ( ydna) found. I was wondering if any other graves from "southern Germany" in relation to this group was discovered. I am interested in also of any tribe which is associated with this area.

I did find this corresponding articles as well

http://dienekes.blogspot.com.au/2012/07/y-chromosomes-and-mtdna-from-late.html


Results Table
(http://dienekes.blogspot.com.au/2012/07/y-chromosomes-and-mtdna-from-late.html)

Haplo-
group
Fitness
score
Proba-
bility
(%)


E1b1a
8
0.0


E1b1b
7
0.0


G2a
12
0.0


G2c
1
0.0


H
2
0.0


I1
26
3.9


I2a (xI2a1)
15
0.0


I2a1
1
0.0


I2b (xI2b1)
4
0.0


I2b1
11
0.0


J1
13
0.1


J2a1b
9
0.0


J2a1h
2
0.0


J2a1 x J2a1-bh
12
0.0


J2b
9
0.0


L
28
0.5


N
5
0.0


Q
35
5.0


R1a
7
0.0


R1b
27
5.4


T
59
85.1




What I got form the new athey for equal priors for #1699
(http://dienekes.blogspot.com.au/2012/07/y-chromosomes-and-mtdna-from-late.html)

Nobody1
18-10-13, 17:44
I think the label of "ancient Bavarians" might be a bit too much;

App. after all the tests it is the most poss. that the Corpses belonged to a Roman Military Unit + Family members;

However, the pattern of family relationships revealed in the analyses also fits in with the third hypothesis – that the buried men were members of a Roman military unit who lived together with their families near the burial place. In addition to the finding of the Roman fibula, the observed preponderance of men and the diversity of the Y-haplotypes support this supposition.


But it also reveals that the Corpses were native (since childhood) of this very region (Upper Bavaria) - South of the Danube;

None of the eleven individuals spent his/her childhood in an area with a differing Sr signature. Only one individual showed slight evidence for mobility during early childhood.

The time of the Corpses is the late Roman Empire [4th-5th cen AD] so the pop. of Prov. Raetia were already all Roman Citizens (Constitutio Antoniniana 212 AD) and therefor could very well be including local recruited Vindelici which would also correspond with the at least childhood nativity to the region of the Corpses;