Tabaccus Maximus
Tabaccus Maximus
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- Ethnic group
- Galo-Germanic Atlantic Fringe
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- R1b - SRY 2627
- mtDNA haplogroup
- H1a
We have no depictions of Beaker people that I am aware of. But while studying the rock art of North African pastoralists, I realized that the dating of some of the rock art is contemporaneous with the usage of North African Beakerware and in roughly the same location, also coinciding or slightly preceding
the first appearance of Maritime Bell Beaker people in Southwestern Europe.
It should also be noted, that the maternal Haplogroups associated with European Beaker people and their descendants largely mirror those of North African Berbers today (H1 & H3). At one time, North African pastoralists associated with these rock art depictions were probably largely R1b-V88, among others, but became cutoff during the Arab expansion and limited to the valleys of Southern Algeria, Mali and Cameroon.
While the pastoralists are most likely not ancestral to European Bell Beakers, they were probably very similar to Beaker folk in both their lifestyle and appearance. So I use the word "proxy" as they most likely looked very similar.
I will comment briefly on each photo:
Tassili d'Angier "Tassili Ladies" c. 2900 B.C.
Southern Algeria
Several things are interesting about the Tassilli Ladies. Notably they look British and of course have varied hair colors which include: A redhead, a blonde, auburn, and brown. The Blonde woman appears to be wearing a woolen twill. The artist depictions of cross lines is informative and would seem to indicate a "tartan-like" pattern. This particular style of twill weaving originates in Eastern Anatolia during the Pottery Neolithic and is found in the (Scytho)-Tocharian mummies and in Celtic Culture. The two ladies in the foreground also appear to be wearing wool, but are less distinct.
The cloaks are most likely fastened at the neck with a broach or a safety pin as was common in Western Europe.
They are sitting "side-saddle", which is of course lady-like, but on a bull, which is a little different.
The dating of this mural is to 2900 B.C., which based on the variables used to date it, including climate change, seems reasonable. 2900 B.C. is when the Maritime Bell Beakers first appear in Europe.
The most intriguing aspect of the Tassilli Ladies, is that they likely used "Beaker cook ware" in the home. While the distribution of the Morroccan/Megrebean Beaker isn't fully known, the once lush river valley conduit from the coast to Tassilli where these people roamed make the association more than a possibility IMO.
the first appearance of Maritime Bell Beaker people in Southwestern Europe.
It should also be noted, that the maternal Haplogroups associated with European Beaker people and their descendants largely mirror those of North African Berbers today (H1 & H3). At one time, North African pastoralists associated with these rock art depictions were probably largely R1b-V88, among others, but became cutoff during the Arab expansion and limited to the valleys of Southern Algeria, Mali and Cameroon.
While the pastoralists are most likely not ancestral to European Bell Beakers, they were probably very similar to Beaker folk in both their lifestyle and appearance. So I use the word "proxy" as they most likely looked very similar.
I will comment briefly on each photo:
Tassili d'Angier "Tassili Ladies" c. 2900 B.C.
Southern Algeria
Several things are interesting about the Tassilli Ladies. Notably they look British and of course have varied hair colors which include: A redhead, a blonde, auburn, and brown. The Blonde woman appears to be wearing a woolen twill. The artist depictions of cross lines is informative and would seem to indicate a "tartan-like" pattern. This particular style of twill weaving originates in Eastern Anatolia during the Pottery Neolithic and is found in the (Scytho)-Tocharian mummies and in Celtic Culture. The two ladies in the foreground also appear to be wearing wool, but are less distinct.
The cloaks are most likely fastened at the neck with a broach or a safety pin as was common in Western Europe.
They are sitting "side-saddle", which is of course lady-like, but on a bull, which is a little different.
The dating of this mural is to 2900 B.C., which based on the variables used to date it, including climate change, seems reasonable. 2900 B.C. is when the Maritime Bell Beakers first appear in Europe.
The most intriguing aspect of the Tassilli Ladies, is that they likely used "Beaker cook ware" in the home. While the distribution of the Morroccan/Megrebean Beaker isn't fully known, the once lush river valley conduit from the coast to Tassilli where these people roamed make the association more than a possibility IMO.