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Echetlaeus
25-04-14, 01:16
Discuss ...

Aberdeen
25-04-14, 03:51
My eyes are very blue. I must be one of those Bronze Age invaders from the steppes.

Fire Haired14
25-04-14, 03:54
My eyes are very blue. I must be one of those Bronze Age invaders from the steppes.

Only around 10%(at the most) of Yamna(considered to be proto-Indo Europeans) and Catacomb people had blue eyes. List of 65 ancient Pontaic steppe individuals and DNA results (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?118795-List-of-65-ancient-Pontaic-steppe-individuals-and-DNA-results). They were a very swathy people. Indo Iranians and Tocherians who migrated to Asia though were pigmented like modern northern Europeans. One way or another you probably get your blue eyes from Mesolithic Europeans, since 3/3 tested are blue eyed. Even though Irish have only around 50% Mesolithic European ancestry or a little more 82% have light eyes. So modern European light eyes are not exactly directly from Mesolithic Europeans, because light eyes were probably selected for in WHG/EEF/ANE mutts after the Neolithic.

Echetlaeus
25-04-14, 03:59
Mine are mostly green, actually I have heterochromia with brown hehe.

Fire Haired14
25-04-14, 04:01
My eyes are very large and very blue, i get it from my Norwegian grandfather. My eyes are very similar in shape and size to La Brana-1's.

http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2014/01/27/la-brana.jpg

Fire Haired14
25-04-14, 04:04
Mine are mostly green, actually I have heterochromia with brown hehe.

I know many people with mixed eye color, but i think they usually count as light.

Echetlaeus
25-04-14, 04:05
I know many people with mixed eye color, but i think they usually count as light.

No I have a little bit more than the quarter of one of my eyes brown, the rest is green. The two parts are quite distinctive from each other, like the water and oil.

Fire Haired14
25-04-14, 04:20
No I have a little bit more than the quarter of one of my eyes brown, the rest is green. The two parts are quite distinctive from each other, like the water and oil.

Never mind that's very unique i don't think I've seen it before.

Aberdeen
25-04-14, 15:12
Only around 10%(at the most) of Yamna(considered to be proto-Indo Europeans) and Catacomb people had blue eyes. List of 65 ancient Pontaic steppe individuals and DNA results (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?118795-List-of-65-ancient-Pontaic-steppe-individuals-and-DNA-results). They were a very swathy people. Indo Iranians and Tocherians who migrated to Asia though were pigmented like modern northern Europeans. One way or another you probably get your blue eyes from Mesolithic Europeans, since 3/3 tested are blue eyed. Even though Irish have only around 50% Mesolithic European ancestry or a little more 82% have light eyes. So modern European light eyes are not exactly directly from Mesolithic Europeans, because light eyes were probably selected for in WHG/EEF/ANE mutts after the Neolithic.

This comment seems to me to be just as confused as most opinions about where blue eyes come from. I don't think we really know yet where blue eyes come from. My own comment was intended as humour.

I should mention that 60% of the human remains from the Andronovo cultural horizon that could be tested appeared to have light hair and eyes. And there are the Tarim basin mummies. So I don't see blue eyes (or light hair) as being specifically Meso European.

Fire Haired14
25-04-14, 21:56
This comment seems to me to be just as confused as most opinions about where blue eyes come from. I don't think we really know yet where blue eyes come from. My own comment was intended as humour.

I should mention that 60% of the human remains from the Andronovo cultural horizon that could be tested appeared to have light hair and eyes. And there are the Tarim basin mummies. So I don't see blue eyes (or light hair) as being specifically Meso European.

Have you forgotten that the north European-like pigmentated bronze age Andronovo people and tarim mummies are 4,000 or more years younger than the blue eyed Mesolithic European samples? They all had a high amount of Mesolithic ancestry probably majority like modern north-eastern Europeans. The Indo Europeans were not a race, why else do you think the Indo Iranians and Tocherians were so pale but earlier Indo Europeans in eastern Europe were very dark? All early Indo Europeans were probably a mixture of near eastern(mainly early European farmers), WHG, and ANE.

Also, i never said light eyes originated in stone age Europe. Modern middle easterns probably have 0% or close to 0% European-specific ancestry, yet have 3-20% light eyes many west asians have around 20%. Light eyes are a west Eurasian trait, and because of selection became very popular in stone age European hunter gatherers.

Aberdeen
25-04-14, 22:18
Have you forgotten that the north European-like pigmentated bronze age Andronovo people and tarim mummies are 4,000 or more years younger than the blue eyed Mesolithic European samples? They all had a high amount of Mesolithic ancestry probably majority like modern north-eastern Europeans. The Indo Europeans were not a race, why else do you think the Indo Iranians and Tocherians were so pale but earlier Indo Europeans in eastern Europe were very dark? All early Indo Europeans were probably a mixture of near eastern(mainly early European farmers), WHG, and ANE.

Also, i never said light eyes originated in stone age Europe. Modern middle easterns probably have 0% or close to 0% European-specific ancestry, yet have 3-20% light eyes many west asians have around 20%. Light eyes are a west Eurasian trait, and because of selection became very popular in stone age European hunter gatherers.

I think you're making a lot of assumptions that can't be substantiated. I don't think it's clear at all where blue eyes came from.

oreo_cookie
26-04-14, 00:56
My eyes are dark brown. I wear colored contacts sometimes, though.

Engel
26-04-14, 08:26
purple iris n deep purple pupil n blue outer ring

PT Tagus
08-03-19, 21:07
My eyes are hazel.

Carlos
08-03-19, 22:13
Green. Central brown heterochromia.

Salento
08-03-19, 23:06
None of the mirrors in my house agree on what kind of brown my eyes actually are. Seriously. LOL

Gash
09-03-19, 00:02
Brown .....

mitty
09-03-19, 00:27
I have blue/green eyes.

PT Tagus
10-03-19, 22:24
My eyes are hazel.

https://i.imgur.com/TG5H6oq.jpg?1

Hazel or brown? What do you think?

TardisBlue
10-03-19, 22:49
Hazel or brown? What do you think?

Hazel with more brown (mine are hazel with more green).

See here (https://owlcation.com/stem/The-Difference-Between-Green-and-Hazel-Eyes): "In hazel eyes, the amount of brown varies from one person to another. This ranges from a glint to a strong brown or gold color, depending on the concentration and type of melanin in the iris."

Duarte
11-03-19, 00:11
https://i.imgur.com/TG5H6oq.jpg?1

Hazel or brown? What do you think?

Below, two pics of amber eyes:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_uraTFSC2m2au1p_pOCQErdIkkS_o6tv/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/151VvX1iyPc_2esS5I_w1Y1AaqJqW2PTw/view?usp=drivesdk
I believe the color of your eyes is amber:
Amber eyes are of a solid color and have a strong yellowish/golden and russet/coppery tint. This may be due to the deposition of the yellow pigment called lipochrome in the iris (which is also found in green eyes). Amber eyes should not be confused with hazel eyes; although hazel eyes may contain specks of amber or gold, they usually tend to comprise many other colors, including green, brown and orange. Also, hazel eyes may appear to shift in color and consist of flecks and ripples, while amber eyes are of a solid gold hue. Even though amber is considered to be like gold, some people have russet or copper colored amber eyes that many people mistake for hazel, though hazel tends to be duller and contains green with red/gold flecks, as mentioned above. Amber eyes may also contain amounts of very light gold-ish gray.
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Stuvanè
11-03-19, 00:28
I apologize for the real bad photo quality. I'd say mine are hazel with some greenish nuances 10796

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Duarte
11-03-19, 00:53
I apologize for the real bad photo quality. I'd say mine are hazel with some greenish nuances 10796

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Hello Stuvanè.
The photograph is slightly grainy due to the low resolution, but we can see an intense greenish hue, indicative of hazel eyes. Most likely, when your eyes are under the artificial white light in a waiting room, for example, they must acquire a very greenish coloration. This is what happens with the eyes of my wife, that are hazel and who, by the way, is Italian-descendant.
Warm greetings.

Angela
11-03-19, 01:25
@Tagus,
They look amber to me. My husband's eyes are that color.

@Stuvane,
My Dad's eyes were close to that, but more green.

When my Dad had a glass of wine they got "really" green, like fern colored. It was a dead give away. My mom could see it from across the room. :)

Mine used to be dark brown, but they're getting more and more green. I have no idea why. Maybe a loss of pigment? I started going grey very early, in my early thirties, with two shocks of white going back from my temples. If I had to do it over again I would have left them. Meanwhile, neither of my parents went grey at all really. It was my father's mother who went white early. Her hair was completely white by the time she was in her mid 40s. Genes are funny things.

PT Tagus
11-03-19, 01:33
Thanks a lot, your explanations were really useful.

Duarte
11-03-19, 02:10
@Tagus,
They look amber to me. My husband's eyes are that color.

@Stuvane,
My Dad's eyes were close to that, but more green.

When my Dad had a glass of wine they got "really" green, like fern colored. It was a dead give away. My mom could see it from across the room. :)

Mine used to be dark brown, but they're getting more and more green. I have no idea why. Maybe a loss of pigment? I started going grey very early, in my early thirties, with two shocks of white going back from my temples. If I had to do it over again I would have left them. Meanwhile, neither of my parents went grey at all really. It was my father's mother who went white early. Her hair was completely white by the time she was in her mid 40s. Genes are funny things.

Hello Angela.
My hair is turning white, too. But, compared to people who are the same age as I have, my hair even are not very white. I once washed my hair with a "Grecin" shampoo and my wife hated the result (I liked it, LOL). But now I've gotten used to the slightly graying tone and I'm enjoying it. If I inherited the genes of my Portuguese great-grandmother, my hair will not much clearer than the color gray, because she died at the age of 92 and still with gray hair. As you said yourself, Genes are funny things.
Warm greetings.

Carlos
11-03-19, 04:19
The ones I like the most are those of the color of the chestnut skin. I had to put it that way because the translator makes me brown and here we usually use more chestnuts when it is that nice color that is not so brown.


I had very scattered gray hair but they have been removed. I had begun to dye myself with L'Oreal dark brown, but it is very badly done and it was black, so as long as I did not go back to dye my time has passed and they have taken off, it may seem unlikely but it has happened.


My father is colorblind and has green eyes, many of his family members have blue sky very beautiful, even a cousin has 7 children and seven have blue (maybe serve for the next blue-eyed map in Spain or Andalusia) . My mother has brown eyes but with age they have been depigmented as greenish, her mother and sisters are gray-white or white hair with age.

1claire
12-03-19, 05:08
Brown, most people think that I wear contact lenses but I'm not.

italouruguayan
13-03-19, 03:58
This is my eye. I guess this iris color is called Hazel.10798

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bigsnake49
01-04-19, 23:14
My eyes are dark brown and so are the eyes of the oldest of my two sisters. My other sister is blonde with blue gray eyes as is my father. There's blond/light brown/ginger hair and blue eyes on both sides of my family.

kostop
09-04-19, 15:31
I had medium brown eyes until my 20s, then got really dark, now in my 40s they're slowly getting lighter again.

My hair is an even weirder story... I was blond until 5-6 years old, then it became a dark copper red-ish shade.
My beard is a mixture of blond, red, brown and (now) white. Looks ginger from afar, in contrast with my darker hair.

Go figure...

Northener
11-04-19, 21:18
Discuss ...

My eyes are chestnut:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/kzpq4w.jpg


https://www.mupload.nl/img/jlotwerffnrp9.59.28.png

This is the prediction of Gedmatch:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/292lj9qml.23.58.png

DNA Land comes closer I guess:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/4di8q8vkl6.09.58.png

Because this is the coloring: 55% brown, 31% blue and 14% intermediate,
https://www.mupload.nl/img/e7mlaoi.19.52.png

.....and that is reflected in the DNA land graphic!

italouruguayan
12-04-19, 01:49
This is my prediction according to Gedmatch. Completely wrong for my eye color....totally successful for the color 9f my father...10908

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Jaime__
14-04-19, 18:34
Quite similar to my gedmatch:10924

https://www.eupedia.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10924


This is my prediction according to Gedmatch. Completely wrong for my eye color....totally successful for the color 9f my father...10908

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italouruguayan
15-04-19, 02:43
Your eye color is very different from the prediction?
In Gedmatch it is announced that it is less successful for those who have non-European ancestors; in my case, I am 18% Native American and 3% Sub-Saharan Africa, and my eyes are hazel. In the case of my wife, who has those components in smaller proportion (6% Native American, 1% sub-Saharan Africa) the predictor gives green eyes ... and her eyes are dark brown ...

Carlos
15-04-19, 03:16
Perhaps Gedmatch's prediction means that it would be possible to have them in the color he predicts; although later you have another color.

In Gedematch I have obtained the blue color and I have green with brown central heterochromia.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2N_cybCoqLI/XLPSqja_znI/AAAAAAAAAdc/Gx_oonGIkhQQ4OQr6jTtkme4KeqL15x2QCLcBGAs/s1600/www.gedmatch.com_eye_color_pred2.php_u%253D20084%2 526kit_num%253DSQ3125703%2526xsubmit%253DPredict%2 52BColor.png
But I have not been surprised by the prediction of
Gedmatch because I know that both in the paternal and maternal family there are blue eyes but I would have been surprised if Gedematch's prediction.

Angela
15-04-19, 17:46
Perhaps Gedmatch's prediction means that it would be possible to have them in the color he predicts; although later you have another color.

In Gedematch I have obtained the blue color and I have green with brown central heterochromia.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2N_cybCoqLI/XLPSqja_znI/AAAAAAAAAdc/Gx_oonGIkhQQ4OQr6jTtkme4KeqL15x2QCLcBGAs/s1600/www.gedmatch.com_eye_color_pred2.php_u%253D20084%2 526kit_num%253DSQ3125703%2526xsubmit%253DPredict%2 52BColor.png
But I have not been surprised by the prediction of
Gedmatch because I know that both in the paternal and maternal family there are blue eyes but I would have been surprised if Gedematch's prediction.

The prediction is closer to my father's fern green eyes than to mine, which are close in color to those of Northener, although they used to be closer to chocolate. I wonder if I inherited the genes from my father, but some kind of epigenetics is at play, i.e. hormones etc. Or maybe the program just isn't that good yet.

Have to say, though, that in forensic calculators(used in police work), my eyes are predicted to be brown, so they may be better for phenotype prediction.

https://i.imgur.com/DeXFumX.png

bigsnake49
15-04-19, 23:07
Gedmatch eye color prediction for me is grey/blue, the color of my father's and younger sister's eyes.

Regio X
16-04-19, 23:10
@Carlos
Do you have your kit just in Genesis?

I deleted my kits from GedMatch time ago, and now I have them only in Genesis. If it's the case of some of you, be careful, 'cause a nonexistent kit in GedMatch returns blue.

So, I can't check the tool anymore, but it got we all wrong, if my memory serves. My mother and I have green eyes, while my father has brown eyes. GedMatch used to say my mother and I have brown, and that my father have blue (or green). Curiously, inverted.

Carlos
16-04-19, 23:42
^^
Yes in Genesis. It would be interesting to see the prediction for someone who has blue eyes.

Regio X
16-04-19, 23:46
^^
Yes in Genesis. It would be interesting to see the prediction for someone who has blue eyes.That's the point. Any kit that is in Genesis and is not in GedMatch will return blue. And it doesn't need to be in Genesis. Go there, puts, say, dkjaslas, and voila`: blue.

Carlos
17-04-19, 13:19
If this were the case, everyone would get the blue color or someone from the Colgo would publish their blue result. Anyway, it's a tool that I used by chance long after I saw it. And the result did not surprise me because in my father's family there is the sky blue or sky blue color as we call Andalusia to light blue and in my mother's family my maternal grandfather is also blue but with another tone as well as blue with a light gray tone.


It does not take away my sleep, understand. I have obtained the blue and that is what there is.

Anyway it is amazing what we are doing that decades ago would have been unthinkable and even unimaginable. We can post all our results here publicly and fans and professionals are seeing all these results offering more information to elucidate more truthfully as it was in the past, revolutionizing history by banishing obsolete ideas from the past. I imagine that in the future it will still be better and the evidence will speak for itself, well they are already speaking for themselves.

Regio X
17-04-19, 17:17
If this were the case, everyone would get the blue color or someone from the Colgo would publish their blue result. Anyway, it's a tool that I used by chance long after I saw it. And the result did not surprise me because in my father's family there is the sky blue or sky blue color as we call Andalusia to light blue and in my mother's family my maternal grandfather is also blue but with another tone as well as blue with a light gray tone.
It does not take away my sleep, understand. I have obtained the blue and that is what there is.
Anyway it is amazing what we are doing that decades ago would have been unthinkable and even unimaginable. We can post all our results here publicly and fans and professionals are seeing all these results offering more information to elucidate more truthfully as it was in the past, revolutionizing history by banishing obsolete ideas from the past. I imagine that in the future it will still be better and the evidence will speak for itself, well they are already speaking for themselves.Ok, no problem. But let's not complicate things. I don't know about your eyes or your relatives', and it doesn't matter. It's not about you or whoever specifically. I'm just saying, to you and any interested, that GedMatch returns always blue for invalid kits, and AFAIK the Genesis' are not recognized as valid by GedMatch. Simple as that.
Try to run your Genesis kit in GedMatch calculators. You won't manage to do it. Well, I don't. It returns error!

17-04-19, 20:45
GEDmatch predicted my eyes were blue and so they are, as were my father's and grandfather's.

Carlos
17-04-19, 22:40
Ok, no problem. But let's not complicate things. I don't know about your eyes or your relatives', and it doesn't matter. It's not about you or whoever specifically. I'm just saying, to you and any interested, that GedMatch returns always blue for invalid kits, and AFAIK the Genesis' are not recognized as valid by GedMatch. Simple as that.
Try to run your Genesis kit in GedMatch calculators. You won't manage to do it. Well, I don't. It returns error!

You do know it because I just told you.

Joey37
18-04-19, 03:10
My eyes are brown, but browsing my 23andMe raw data I do carry the recessive marker for blue eyes. My maternal grandmother has blue eyes, as does her son, my uncle. My parents both have brown eyes, but my mother obviously inherited a recessive blue eye gene. My brother also has brown eyes; my sister has hazel, although her three children all have dark brown eyes, darker than mine...their father is of French-Canadian descent, for what it's worth.

Regio X
18-04-19, 21:21
You do know it because I just told you.Not sure what you mean exactly. Anyway, I assumed you still had doubts about it, hence my comment.


If this were the case, everyone would get the blue color or someone from the Colgo would publish their blue result.

leperrine
18-04-19, 21:52
I have Green/Grey eyes like my mother and Grandfather. The little lady is my Daughter.

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38183373_10156547023677378_7077510907240120320_n.j pg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=36f9cc49d1a7ee94a7dcef36d371fea9&oe=5D47959F

Carlos
19-04-19, 01:38
Not sure what you mean exactly. Anyway, I assumed you still had doubts about it, hence my comment.

I have no doubts, thank you.

Joey37
19-04-19, 02:15
This is me. I'm not the best at selfies. My grandmother (the blue-eyed one) says I have my grandfather's eyes; he was entirely of Rhode Island colonial English settler descent. 10941

Carlos
19-04-19, 15:22
Joey37 This is me. I'm not the best at selfies. My grandmother (the blue-eyed one) says I have my grandfather's eyes; he was entirely of Rhode Island colonial English settler descent.

It must be what happens with this tool.

leperrine
19-04-19, 17:18
https://i.imgur.com/TG5H6oq.jpg?1

Hazel or brown? What do you think?

Your eye color is close to my fathers. he has vivid amber color eyes

Angela
19-04-19, 21:46
I think that's my favorite color, the amber part; so warm.

Jaime__
26-04-19, 21:06
Your eye color is very different from the prediction?
In Gedmatch it is announced that it is less successful for those who have non-European ancestors; in my case, I am 18% Native American and 3% Sub-Saharan Africa, and my eyes are hazel. In the case of my wife, who has those components in smaller proportion (6% Native American, 1% sub-Saharan Africa) the predictor gives green eyes ... and her eyes are dark brown ...

It is quite accurate with the prediction...only with bright light going to my eyes. If not, it is more like an electric blue.