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There are 2 known hypothesis : the Anatolian hypothesis and the Pontic steppe origin.
I believe the Indoeuropeans originated on the Pontic steppe.
The Maykop culture were IMO non-Indoeuropean people who were very important for the development of the Indoeuropean culture and their metalurgical knowhow.
Now there are some people with a 3rd theory. They believe the origin of Indoeuropeans lies in the Leyla-Tepe_culture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leyla-Tepe_culture) which would be ancestral to Maykop culture.
This would mean the Pontic steppe was only the second urheimat :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maykop_culture
[h=3]Anatolian theory[edit][/h]Gamkrelidze and Ivanov, whose views are somewhat controversial, suggest that the Maykop culture (or its ancestor) may have been a way-station for Indo-Europeans migrating from the South Caucasus and/or eastern Anatolia to a secondary Urheimat on the steppe. This would essentially place the Anatolian stock in Anatolia from the beginning, and at least in this instance, agrees with Colin Renfrew's Anatolian hypothesis. Considering that some attempt has been made to unite Indo-European with the Northwest Caucasian languages, an earlier Caucasian pre-Urheimat is not out of the question (see Proto-Pontic). However, most linguists and archaeologists consider this hypothesis incorrect, and prefer the Eurasian steppes as the genuine IE Urheimat.
I don't believe this 3rd theory for following reasons :
- horses were allready very important on the Pontic steppe and probably to a certain degree domesticated before the arrival of Maykop culture
it is with these horses that Indoeuropean people overpowered the people of Maykop culture and of other cultures later on.
- the pottery of the Indoeuropean people is of the 'Samara-type' which entered Europe 9000 years ago across the Ural , from Siberia and Chinese origin, 20000 years old. This pottery contrasts with the pottery originating from the middle east.
I would like you view and arguments on this.
I believe the Indoeuropeans originated on the Pontic steppe.
The Maykop culture were IMO non-Indoeuropean people who were very important for the development of the Indoeuropean culture and their metalurgical knowhow.
Now there are some people with a 3rd theory. They believe the origin of Indoeuropeans lies in the Leyla-Tepe_culture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leyla-Tepe_culture) which would be ancestral to Maykop culture.
This would mean the Pontic steppe was only the second urheimat :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maykop_culture
[h=3]Anatolian theory[edit][/h]Gamkrelidze and Ivanov, whose views are somewhat controversial, suggest that the Maykop culture (or its ancestor) may have been a way-station for Indo-Europeans migrating from the South Caucasus and/or eastern Anatolia to a secondary Urheimat on the steppe. This would essentially place the Anatolian stock in Anatolia from the beginning, and at least in this instance, agrees with Colin Renfrew's Anatolian hypothesis. Considering that some attempt has been made to unite Indo-European with the Northwest Caucasian languages, an earlier Caucasian pre-Urheimat is not out of the question (see Proto-Pontic). However, most linguists and archaeologists consider this hypothesis incorrect, and prefer the Eurasian steppes as the genuine IE Urheimat.
I don't believe this 3rd theory for following reasons :
- horses were allready very important on the Pontic steppe and probably to a certain degree domesticated before the arrival of Maykop culture
it is with these horses that Indoeuropean people overpowered the people of Maykop culture and of other cultures later on.
- the pottery of the Indoeuropean people is of the 'Samara-type' which entered Europe 9000 years ago across the Ural , from Siberia and Chinese origin, 20000 years old. This pottery contrasts with the pottery originating from the middle east.
I would like you view and arguments on this.