Moesan: that doesn't mask the fact that AS A WHOLE BASQUE HAVE VERY FEW DINARIC IMPACT IN THEM
I'm not sure about "very few", but I certainly agree it's not a major component. That's why I said, " I don't think it's dispositive that the French Basque don't show very much "West Asian" in some calculators and yet
some of them show
some Dinaric influences."
All of my speculations based on tying "Dinaric" traits to migrations are predicated on a hypothetical, to wit: "
If this phenotype is the result of an actual migration of people, and not the result of local "crossings". it seems to me that it is tied to the Bell Beaker arrival in central Europe, and thus to the Indo-European Metal Ages migrations into Europe."
As to the "look" of the Celts of the historical era (i.e. as described by the Romans etc), if we've learned nothing else, I think we have learned through many recent papers that we don't look like our remote ancestors, and I would speculate that those Celts didn't look much like the Indo-Eurpeans who first came off the steppe, not if those original people can be modeled as "half ancient Karelian like and half Armenian like". (Of course, it may turn out that the western steppe had a slightly different type of Indo-European, or those people were the result of a further mixing, so all these opinions are very provisional.)
As things stand right now, however, I am getting the feeling that perhaps BR1 wasn't very Indo-European like at all, even though it was the Bronze Age, although contrary to uninformed analysis, he did have a trace of the West Asian which I think to
some degree, helps in tracking it. (I feel as if I have to
italicize, if not
bold my qualifying statements, as they seem to get lost, somehow.
)
if 'dinaric' is only the result of a CERTAIN SPECIFIC crossing, it could appear dominant because yes it 's formed by the mix of dominant traits inherited from the TWO parts of the crossing (not the same, it's evident: say: hypothesis: a long nose concerning the fleshy tip associated to a deep 'beak' nasal root, and brachycephally (+ planoccipitally) associated to a high narrower face - this type, heterozygotous, can break in a puzzle among individuals the next generation! (not statistically)
I'm quite interested in your comment here, and I hope you don't mind clarifying it a bit. First of all, what would you consider the source population for the two "nasal" traits?
Also, I get what you mean by the long nose with a fleshy tip, but a high root doesn't equate to a "beak" to me.
For example, these are Greek statues or Roman copies of Greek originals. I see a long nose with a fleshy tip, and I also see a high root. It doesn't look very "beak like" to me, however.
http://hcf.arizona.edu/sites/hcf.arizona.edu/files/greek-statue.png
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8366/8430355471_bdd35585f9_z.jpg
http://www.ancient.eu/uploads/images/3106.jpg
It's definitely a phenotype trait that has persisted. Pauline Bonaparte...
http://www.french-engravings.com/images/artworks/ART-8315/details/03.jpg
It's a different nose than this type:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7003/6586667199_7b5424c3bf.jpg
http://booksontrial.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/bust-of-cicero.jpg
Or these, which are supposedly the Dinaric type noses, at least if google search isn't flawed, and the "old" physical anthropologists knew anything at all about it.
http://s653.photobucket.com/user/Tyranos/media/Dinaric-1.jpg.html
http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/czdynarski.jpg
http://z3.ifrm.com/67/29/0/p455554/troe393.jpg
Oh, when I googled for Balkan Dinarics, this also came up. Is this what you mean?
http://i3.cn.cz/14/1209457013_huba2.jpg
Maybe I don't know what you mean by a high "root". These roots look pretty low to me. It's the bridge and the downward tip that look distinctive to me.
I have to also add that I've looked at all the old "racial" maps of Europe. Leaving aside that they're not "races", and that some of the creators were unambiguously racist, it doesn't inspire confidence that they so disagreed with one another. Just in the case of Italy, you can look at Deniker's map, and he saw Dinarics everywhere, to others who saw it nowhere except in the areas in the northeast adjacent to the Balkans.