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- Y-DNA haplogroup
- R1b DF27*
- mtDNA haplogroup
- U5b2a2b1
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Thanks for posting! Super awesome find
It looks like he was Y DNA C along the same branch as La Brana. So Pre- C6?
Weird that this is showing up so much, what the heck does it represent.
At first glance, I can't tell if they got a no-call or a negative call for V20, which would tell us if K14 is on the same branch as La Brana or not. The supplemental table for SNP calls isn't very helpful. Am I missing something? Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if someone from so long ago carried proto-C-V20, in fact that may be the most likely possibility.
C-V20 seems to be a very old European lineage, I'd guess at least as old in Europe as Haplogroup I. It's still around, just very rare and a bit bottlenecked nowadays.
36,200YBP is a lower bound, with the upper bound being 38,700YBP. One old dude. Male, from European Russia, sample called Kostenki 14, or K14 for short. Y-DNA C.
For the data from (152) and (153), the informative SNPs are mutations on the branches of
the phylogenetic tree relating the individuals sequenced in the respective studies. They
therefore do not necessarily reflect diagnostic mutations for a particular haplogroup
defined in ISOGG. Nevertheless, they allow us to determine the likely branching point of
K14 simply by counting how often K14 matches the derived allele at each branch in the
tree. Results for both of theses datasets clearly show that K14 carries the derived alleles
for all SNPs on branches ancestral to hg C, but ancestral alleles for the branches leading
to more derived haplogroups (Fig. S13). Furthermore, K14 carries the derived allele for
four hg C mutations in ISOGG (P255, V183, V199, V232) (Table S6). The MHG
19
individual from La Braña (22) carries the same derived mutations, suggesting that both
are members of a closely related lineage within hg C.
I chopped out the K15
Neolithic farmer long before Neolithic farming in Russia. Interesting. Is this Neolithic farmer about same thing as EEF?The three main matches are: Mesolithic European, Middle Eastern (Neolithic farmer) and South Asian.
Neolithic farmer long before Neolithic farming in Russia. Interesting. Is this Neolithic farmer about same thing as EEF?
Instead of comparing Palaeolithic genomes with modern admixtures, I think it would make more sense to look at the percentage of Palaeolithic still found in modern populations. In other words we should look at Palaeolithic genomes the other way round. What's the point of attributing modern labels to a hunter-gatherer who lived 37,000 years ago ? What's interesting is to try to find out what percentage of that ancient genome left contributions in the modern gene pool, just like for Neanderthal.
By the way, the paper says that they identified (only) 0.9 ± 0.4% Neanderthal ancestry in K14, as opposed to 2.4% ± 0.4% in La Braña, and about 2% in modern Eurasians. They estimate the age of the Neandertal admixture at approx. 54,000 years ago (so most likely in the Middle East since Cro-Magnons had not yet reached Europe back then).
I do hate to say I told you so, but it also seems from this analysis that North Italians carry a substantial UP remnant in their genomes, although not as high as that of the French or the French Basues. I knew that all those "CM" phenotypes couldn't be totally unrelated to genotype, even if it's not a perfect correlation, and nor could they all have been brought in by the Indo-Europeans.
Instead of comparing Palaeolithic genomes with modern admixtures, I think it would make more sense to look at the percentage of Palaeolithic still found in modern populations. In other words we should look at Palaeolithic genomes the other way round. What's the point of attributing modern labels to a hunter-gatherer who lived 37,000 years ago ? What's interesting is to try to find out what percentage of that ancient genome left contributions in the modern gene pool, just like for Neanderthal.
By the way, the paper says that they identified (only) 0.9 ± 0.4% Neanderthal ancestry in K14, as opposed to 2.4% ± 0.4% in La Braña, and about 2% in modern Eurasians. They estimate the age of the Neandertal admixture at approx. 54,000 years ago (so most likely in the Middle East since Cro-Magnons had not yet reached Europe back then).
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