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Power77
26-11-14, 17:55
Today I've come across this intriguing website written by Russian anthropologist German Dziebel: http://anthropogenesis.kinshipstudies.org/sample-page/. As you can read on his blog , he seems to advocate a New World origin of modern humans instead of an African one. In other words, he theorizes Amerindians as being the basal/ancestral Homo sapiens sapiens population to all modern humans alive today instead of Sub-Saharan Africans(and particularly Khoisan-speaking populations often viewed by geneticists and out-of-Africanists as being the oldest humans alive). He seems to rely mostly on Amerindian linguistic diversity, kinship patterns and Paleolithic-like genetic diversity to support his case. While he certainly has some good points and seems very erudite, we can safely say that his theory sounds far-fetched but then again so does recent out-of-Africa if you ask me! What do you think about his theory? Wouldn't it be a good idea to invite him discuss and explain his theory on this forum(he did so on forumbiodiversity by the way)? Share.

oreo_cookie
29-11-14, 04:21
Amerindians share genes with East Asians and Siberians, so it makes sense that they'd be linked but the migration seems to be from East Asia into the Americas, not the reverse.

Power77
29-11-14, 22:49
Amerindians share genes with East Asians and Siberians, so it makes sense that they'd be linked but the migration seems to be from East Asia into the Americas, not the reverse.

Good point. But German seems to explain how that may be a purely unproven stereotype actually. He argues why would Amerindians inherit all the rarest "East Asian/Siberian" lineages(Y- DNA hgs Q, C3b and even C3*; mtDNA hgs B, C1, D1, A2 and D4h3) and not the most common ones(Y-DNA hgs NO and DE; mtDNA hgs M7, M8, N9, M10, ect) if the two are/were so close. Why do Amerindians almost lack blood type B? Why do Amerindians lack NO or DE Y-haplogroups? Why are mtDNA hgs B and X so uncommon in Siberia/East Asia? And for that matter why are Amerindian-specific A,C and D mtDNA lineages absent in Siberia/East Asia? German certainly has a point asking those questions on his blog! EDIT: this new thread by himself is of great help for understanding his hypothesis and what I just said in this post: http://anthropogenesis.kinshipstudies.org/2014/11/the-solutrean-hypothesis-meets-mainstream-science-a-false-response-to-a-real-problem-vs-a-real-response-to-a-false-problem/.