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Has anyone else read this book?
You can read the full thing online here. http://www.europeanamericansunited.org/school1/WesternPhilosophy/MadisonGrant/pgr-2.-01.html
It is a very controversial book that has an ugly connection to the American Eugenics era, however that aside I am amazed at how accurate a lot of the theories are pertaining to the origins of modern Europeans given that this is all based on anthropology and they had no access to DNA at the time. If you can get past the racialist bit there is a lot of very interesting stuff.
The Nordic/Alpine/Mediterranean 3 way model presented in this book is an almost exact representation of the ANE/EEF/WHG model currently popularized by the study of ancient DNA. In this book he describes the Alpine race as having originated in south east Asia and having arrived in Europe in in the late neolithic, which is exactly true based on what we now know about the R1a/b clades, he also describes them as having a round head shape which corresponds to the R1 relationship to Mongoloid/Brachycephalic East Asia. The Nordic race he describes as being tall/robust and having originated with the Paleolithic races of Europe, this is also true based on what we know about Cro Magnon, Y DNA I, and their increased stature. The Mediterranean race originated in the Near east and North Africa which is true of what we know about Neolithic farmers, interestingly he places the original inhabitants of the British Isles under the Mediterranean Race and not the Alpine Race as we would expect for an R1 group, I see this as some foresight into what we will see from the Bell Beaker Admixtures, e.g. that the R1b bell beakers are much more related to EEF than R1a ANE, likewise his placement of the Alpine race overlaps with R1a but not R1b.
You can read the full thing online here. http://www.europeanamericansunited.org/school1/WesternPhilosophy/MadisonGrant/pgr-2.-01.html
It is a very controversial book that has an ugly connection to the American Eugenics era, however that aside I am amazed at how accurate a lot of the theories are pertaining to the origins of modern Europeans given that this is all based on anthropology and they had no access to DNA at the time. If you can get past the racialist bit there is a lot of very interesting stuff.
The Nordic/Alpine/Mediterranean 3 way model presented in this book is an almost exact representation of the ANE/EEF/WHG model currently popularized by the study of ancient DNA. In this book he describes the Alpine race as having originated in south east Asia and having arrived in Europe in in the late neolithic, which is exactly true based on what we now know about the R1a/b clades, he also describes them as having a round head shape which corresponds to the R1 relationship to Mongoloid/Brachycephalic East Asia. The Nordic race he describes as being tall/robust and having originated with the Paleolithic races of Europe, this is also true based on what we know about Cro Magnon, Y DNA I, and their increased stature. The Mediterranean race originated in the Near east and North Africa which is true of what we know about Neolithic farmers, interestingly he places the original inhabitants of the British Isles under the Mediterranean Race and not the Alpine Race as we would expect for an R1 group, I see this as some foresight into what we will see from the Bell Beaker Admixtures, e.g. that the R1b bell beakers are much more related to EEF than R1a ANE, likewise his placement of the Alpine race overlaps with R1a but not R1b.