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nshukur
28-03-15, 05:27
Just saying hi to the community. I participated in the Genographic project 2 years ago and later transferred my results to FTDNA.

I belong to E-V22 on my paternal side and K1A Maternal.

My parents are Syrian born and bred. Mom has known to lineage to Turkey through her Maternal side.

Not too much knowledge on my Dads side. Genographic put me in the Egyptian for reference population.

It would be cool to learn more about V22...

Maleth
28-03-15, 08:24
welcome Nshukur, there is lots of useful information here http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_E1b1b_Y-DNA.shtml

Rethel
28-03-15, 11:57
Not too much knowledge on my Dads side.

Genealogical research should be very helpful. But I don't know syrian possibilities. Do Syrians
have surnames of do they have long history of civil or religious regestry? Are you descent of
some small tribe or maybe some clan with known history? Even 100-200 years can be usefull.

One is sure - you are not descendant of Shem, but of Ham. :)

nshukur
28-03-15, 17:21
Genealogical research should be very helpful. But I don't know syrian possibilities. Do Syrians
have surnames of do they have long history of civil or religious regestry? Are you descent of
some small tribe or maybe some clan with known history? Even 100-200 years can be usefull.

One is sure - you are not descendant of Shem, but of Ham. :)

Hmm interesting questions. Little is known from my Dads side due to the lack of knowledge or history from his great grandfather. There is a theory that he moved from North Lebanon to Syria, converted to Islam and married. I was interested in reading the thread about v22 in which it was mentioned that v22 mutation came from a man in Northern Syria and eventually spread through the phoenicians. Yes Syrians have surnames but not sure about religious registries

Rethel
28-03-15, 18:06
Yes Syrians have surnames

:good_job:

From how long ago?

bicicleur
28-03-15, 18:33
IMO E-V13 and E-V22 are brother clades
both came from the Nile Valley into SW Asia, maybe some 10.000 years ago.
later E-V13 expanded from the Balkans, while E-V22 was less expansive and stayed mostly in SW Asia
it would be interesting to know more about you Syrian ancestors

Maleth
28-03-15, 18:56
IMO E-V13 and E-V22 are brother clades
both came from the Nile Valley into SW Asia, maybe some 10.000 years ago.
later E-V13 expanded from the Balkans, while E-V22 was less expansive and stayed mostly in SW Asia
it would be interesting to know more about you Syrian ancestors

They both stem from M-78 that was born in Egypt 18,000 BP, (Nile valley in North Africa) they must have both followed an eastern route Then they split from Z1919 taking different routes and probably very different locations. I don't think anyone can say the age of split more and more of when the mutations occurred. later E-V13 expanded from the Balkans, while E-V22 was less expansive and stayed mostly in SW Asia (what we term the middle east) is quite a good description in my opinion, although E-V22 seems to be also present in East Africa were E-V13 is totally absent. Im not sure if there has been a re-migration to East Africa from SW Asia (or what we term middle east, I find these terminologies confusing)

Maleth
28-03-15, 19:07
Here is a good chart of distribution of the various subclades


frequencies evident toward western, central, and northeastern Europe. This is discussed in more detail below.


Region
Population
n
E-M78
E-M78*
E-V12*
E-V13
E-V22
E-V32
E-V65
Study


Europe
    Kosovar Albanians
114
45.60
1.75

43.85



Peričic et al. (2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFPeri.C4.8Dic_et_al.2005))


Europe
    Macedonian Arumanians
57
29.82


29.82



Peričic et al. (2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFPeri.C4.8Dic_et_al.2005))


Europe
    Serbians
113
20.35
1.77

18.58



Peričic et al. (2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFPeri.C4.8Dic_et_al.2005))


Europe
    Croatians
108
5.60


5.60



Peričic et al. (2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFPeri.C4.8Dic_et_al.2005))


Europe
    Crete
193
6.7


6.7



King et al. (2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFKing_et_al.2008))


Europe
    Greeks from Nea Nikomedeia
57
15.8
1.8

14.0



King et al. (2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFKing_et_al.2008))


Europe
    Greeks from Sesklo/Dimini
57
38.6
3.5

35.1



King et al. (2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFKing_et_al.2008))


Europe
    Greeks from Lerna/Franchthi
57
35.1


35.1



King et al. (2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFKing_et_al.2008))


Europe
    Sicilians
236
11.43

1.27
5.93
3.81

0.42
Di Gaetano et al. (2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFDi_Gaetano_et_al.2008))


Europe
    Huelva Andalusians
167
6.59

1.20
4.19

0.60
0.60
Ambrosio et al. (2010 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFAmbrosio_et_al.2010))


Europe
    Sicilians
153
13.07

0.65
7.19
4.58

0.65
Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Northern Portuguese
50
4


4



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Southern Portuguese
49
4.08


4.08



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Pasiegos from Cantabria
56







Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Asturians
90
10


5.56
4.44


Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Southern Spaniards
62
3.23



3.23


Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Spanish Basques
55







Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    French Basques
16
6.25

6.25




Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    French
225
4.44

0.44
4



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    English
28







Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Danish
35
2.86


2.86



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Germans
77
3.9


3.9



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Polish
40
2.5


2.5



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Czechs
268
4.85


4.85



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Slovaks
24
8.33


8.33



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Slovenians
104
2.88


2.88



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Northern Italians
94
7.45


5.32
2.13


Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Central Italians
356
7.87

0.28
5.34
1.97

0.28
Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Southern Italians
141
10.64

0.71
8.51
1.42


Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Sardinians
374
3.48
0.27
0.27
1.07
0.8

1.07
Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Estonians
74
4.05


4.05



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Belarusians
40







Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Northern Russians
82
3.66


3.66



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Southern Russians
92
2.17


2.17



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Ukrainians
11
9.09


9.09



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Moldovians
77
7.79


7.79



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Hungarians
106
9.43


9.43



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Rumanians
265
7.55


7.17
0.38


Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Macedonians
99
18.18


17.17
1.01


Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Continental Greeks
147
19.05


17.69
0.68

0.68
Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Greeks from Crete
215
6.51

0.93
5.58



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Greeks from Aegean Islands
71
16.9


15.49
1.41


Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Bulgarians
204
16.67

0.49
16.18



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Europe
    Albanians
96
32.29


32.29



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Northwestern Africa
    Moroccan Arabs
55
40
3.64


7.27

29.09
Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Northwestern Africa
    Asni Berbers
54
3.7



3.7


Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Northwestern Africa
    Bouhria Berbers
67
1.49


1.49



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Northwestern Africa
    Moyen Atlas Berbers
69
10.14





10.14
Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Northwestern Africa
    Marrakech Berbers
29
6.9

3.45

3.45


Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Northwestern Africa
    Moroccan Jews
50
12

2
2
8


Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Northwestern Africa
    Mozabite Berbers
20







Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Northeastern Africa
    Libyan Jews
25
8


4


4
Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Northeastern Africa
    Libyan Arabs
10
20





20
Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Northeastern Africa
    Northern Egyptians (Delta)
72
23.61

5.56
1.39
13.89
2.78

Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Northeastern Africa
    Egyptian Berbers
93
6.45

2.15



4.3
Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Northeastern Africa
    Egyptians from Bahari
41
41.46

14.63
2.44
21.95

2.44
Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Northeastern Africa
    Egyptians from Gurna Oasis
34
17.65
5.88
8.82


2.94

Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Northeastern Africa
    Southern Egyptians
79
50.63

44.3
1.27
3.8

1.27
Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Eastern Africa
    Dinka
26
15.38

3.85

11.54


Hassan et al. (2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFHassanUnderhillCavalli-SforzaIbrahim2008))


Eastern Africa
    Shilluk
15
13.33



13.33


Hassan et al. (2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFHassanUnderhillCavalli-SforzaIbrahim2008))


Eastern Africa
    Nuer
12
16.67

16.67




Hassan et al. (2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFHassanUnderhillCavalli-SforzaIbrahim2008))


Eastern Africa
    Borgu
26
15.38



3.85
11.54

Hassan et al. (2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFHassanUnderhillCavalli-SforzaIbrahim2008))


Eastern Africa
    Nuba
28
25
3.57
3.57

7.14
10.71

Hassan et al. (2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFHassanUnderhillCavalli-SforzaIbrahim2008))


Eastern Africa
    Masalit
32
71.88
3.13


15.63
53.13

Hassan et al. (2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFHassanUnderhillCavalli-SforzaIbrahim2008))


Eastern Africa
    Fur
32
59.38



18.75
40.63

Hassan et al. (2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFHassanUnderhillCavalli-SforzaIbrahim2008))


Eastern Africa
    Nubians
39
15.38

12.82


2.56

Hassan et al. (2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFHassanUnderhillCavalli-SforzaIbrahim2008))


Eastern Africa
    Fulani
26
34.62



30.77
3.85

Hassan et al. (2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFHassanUnderhillCavalli-SforzaIbrahim2008))


Eastern Africa
    Hausa
32
3.13




3.13

Hassan et al. (2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFHassanUnderhillCavalli-SforzaIbrahim2008))


Eastern Africa
    Copts
33
15.15

15.15




Hassan et al. (2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFHassanUnderhillCavalli-SforzaIbrahim2008))


Eastern Africa
    Beja
42
35.71

4.76


30.95

Hassan et al. (2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFHassanUnderhillCavalli-SforzaIbrahim2008))


Eastern Africa
    Gaalien
50
18.00

6.00

6.00
6.00

Hassan et al. (2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFHassanUnderhillCavalli-SforzaIbrahim2008))


Eastern Africa
    Meseria
28
14.29

3.57


10.71

Hassan et al. (2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFHassanUnderhillCavalli-SforzaIbrahim2008))


Eastern Africa
    Arakien
24
16.67

8.33

4.17
4.17

Hassan et al. (2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFHassanUnderhillCavalli-SforzaIbrahim2008))


Eastern Africa
    Amhara
34
8.82




8.82

Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Eastern Africa
    Ethiopian Jews
22
9.09




9.09

Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Eastern Africa
    Mixed Ethiopians
12
33.33



25
8.33

Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Eastern Africa
    Borana/Oromo (Kenya/Ethiopia)
32
40.63




40.63

Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Eastern Africa
    Wolayta
12
16.67



8.33
8.33

Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Eastern Africa
    Somalia
23
52.17



4.35
47.83

Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Eastern Africa
    Nilotic from Kenya
18
11.11



11.11


Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Eastern Africa
    Bantu from Kenya
28
3.57




3.57

Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Eastern Africa
    Western Africa
123
0.81

0.81




Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Eastern Africa
    Central Africa
150
0.67

0.67




Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Eastern Africa
    Southern Afric
105







Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Western Asia
    Istanbul Turkish
35
8.57


2.86
5.71


Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Western Asia
    Southwestern Turkish
40
2.5


2.5



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Western Asia
    Northeastern Turkish
41







Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Western Asia
    Southeastern Turkish
24
4.17


4.17



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Western Asia
    Erzurum Turkish
25
4

4




Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Western Asia
    Central Anatolian
61
6.56

1.64
4.92



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Western Asia
    Turkish Cypriots
46
13.04


10.87
2.17


Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Western Asia
    Sephardi Turkish
19







Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Western Asia
    Palestinians
29
10.34


3.45
6.9


Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Western Asia
    Druze Arabs
28
10.71


10.71



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Western Asia
    Bedouin
28
3.57



3.57


Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Western Asia
    Syrians
100
2



2


Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Western Asia
    Kurds from Iraq
20







Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Western Asia
    Arabs from United Arab Emirates
40
2.5



2.5


Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Western Asia
    Omanite
106
0.94



0.94


Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Western Asia
    Adygei
18







Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


Western Asia
    Azeri
97
2.06


2.06



Cruciani et al. (2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68#CITEREFCrucianiLa_FrattaTrombettaSantolamazza2 007))


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V68

bicicleur
28-03-15, 21:21
and here is a distribution map for E-V68

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I agree, IMO E-V68 and E-M78 originated in Nubya, Nile Valley which was populated since 19000 y BP :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halfan_culture

it was followed by Qadan culture :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qadan_culture

but the Nile changed and some tribes started moving north

if you want to know what happened to the Nile :

https://www.google.be/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fprofile%2F Mark_Macklin%2Fpublication%2F227992119_The_Nile_Ev olution_Quaternary_River_Environments_and_Material _Fluxes%2Flinks%2F0fcfd5069887bcc176000000.pdf&ei=wv4WVYyOI8j5UMWfgoAJ&usg=AFQjCNFkY1-KMuvOq_oBDeL436YSFgjcBg&sig2=BSXQ1pmwlducOMYnoxto3A&bvm=bv.89381419,d.d24

Maleth
30-03-15, 10:01
I agree, IMO E-V68 and E-M78 originated in Nubya, Nile Valley which was populated since 19000 y BP :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halfan_culture

it was followed by Qadan culture :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qadan_culture

but the Nile changed and some tribes started moving north

if you want to know what happened to the Nile :

https://www.google.be/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fprofile%2F Mark_Macklin%2Fpublication%2F227992119_The_Nile_Ev olution_Quaternary_River_Environments_and_Material _Fluxes%2Flinks%2F0fcfd5069887bcc176000000.pdf&ei=wv4WVYyOI8j5UMWfgoAJ&usg=AFQjCNFkY1-KMuvOq_oBDeL436YSFgjcBg&sig2=BSXQ1pmwlducOMYnoxto3A&bvm=bv.89381419,d.d24

Thanks Bicicleur, very interesting

Kaser
02-07-17, 18:44
V22 is a brother clade of V13, along with V12 and V65.

V22 is found in North and East africa, in small amounts in Europe. According to Wikipedia.
It's found in Sicillians at small percentages, and could have entered europe that way.

Simplified tree:
M35>V68>M78>V22