Tomenable
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Together with Mathieson's updated paper, a fairly good picture of how R1a M198/M417 probably arose and spread emerges. The 3 oldest so far samples of R1a, dated between 6000-7500 ybp (4000-5500 BC) - one from Khvalynsk at the Volga (4700-4000 BC), one from Serteya near Velizh (4000 BC) and one from a sacred burial ground located at Red Deer Island in Karelia (5500-5000 BC). We can draw a triangle connecting these three points, and I guess that the area in between represents the range of R1a M420 carriers in period 6000-4000 BC. But of course carriers of M198 (TMRCA of which was ~6000 BC according to Y-Full) and of M417 (which emerged around the same time when M198 had its TMRCA) could live only in some specific part of that area. The most likely option is to go for the Volga steppe around Khvalynsk as the cradle of M198/M417:
http://s1.postimg.org/di5tzku0d/Early_expansion_of_R1a_M198.png
http://s8.postimg.org/qdljaaap1/All_R1a_Samples_Map.png
http://s1.postimg.org/di5tzku0d/Early_expansion_of_R1a_M198.png
http://s8.postimg.org/qdljaaap1/All_R1a_Samples_Map.png