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Russia | Yuzhnyy Oleni Ostrov [I0061/UzOO 74] | M | 5500-5000 BC | R1a1* | M459+, Page65.2+, M515-, M198-, M512-, M514-, L449- | C1g | Der Sarkissian 2011; Der Sarkissian 2013; Der Sarkissian 2014; Haak 2015; Mathieson 2015 |
Russia | Yuzhnyy Oleni Ostrov [I0211/UzOO 40] | M | 5500-5000 BC | J | PF4521, F2114, CTS5934, CTS7028, CTS7229, FGC1599, YSC0000228, CTS11291 | U4a | Mathieson 2015 |
just a taught ..
neolithic Europe was mainly haplo G2a and little I
chalcolithic haplo I became more frequent again
could this be because very few HG were sampled during neolithic Europe?
appearantly HG didn't dissapear during neolithic , they survived near lakes / rivers with a lot of fish
Yes, it seems that HGs didn't get extinct, but they also didn't immediately mix with newcomers. The process of melting with each other of those populations took a lot of time. That's why Early Neolithic had no Euro HG ancestry, despite living side by side with them.
Only over time HG ancestry was gradually increasing as assimilation and intermarriages gradually continued.
Also modern Sardinians - who are claimed to be identical with ENF - are in fact around 1/3 WHG.
appearantly HG didn't dissapear during neolithic , they survived near lakes / rivers with a lot of fish
Alan said:Sardinians can be modeled as 4/5 EEF and 1/5 WHG.
we knew that Anatolian farmers already had allot of WHG like ancestry.
Like 20% average in all Europeans is WHG derived while another chunk of it is/came via EHG.
Sardinians can be modeled as 4/5 EEF and 1/5 WHG.
Far to high that was before we knew that Anatolian farmers already had allot of WHG like ancestry. Sardinians can be modeled as 4/5 EEF and 1/5 WHG.
So some H&G indeed survived. Like 20% average in all Europeans is WHG derived while another chunk of it is/came via EHG.
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