View Full Version : The lost Y-DNA (a case of deportation)

28-05-16, 17:47
After the Spanish "Reconquista" the majority of Hispano-Arab population remained in the area, but generation after generation they lost language and religion. Some regional pockets keept their religion secretly (inner Valencia, Andalusia, Ebro), and there even many Arab women were not able to speak Spanish, so that they formed an ethnicity known as Moriscos.


As such people was accused to help Barbarian pirates' raids, the Spanish kings thought that they could help a Turkish invasion, so that in 1609 Philip III ordered their deportation to Berberia (Maghrib); some 300000 Arabs lost their lands and money and were shipped to the south (only girls below five could remain).

Testimonials explain how adults were forcibly circuncised in Africa, and how many families were pillaged and taken as slaves. Even so many succeded to build new towns and quarters of Andalusis.

It is conceivable to see the Moriscos Y-DNA in North Africa? As we know actual Y-DNA in Spain, in Tunisia and in Tunisian Andalusis it could be tested this option.

In Table 1 of "Reduced genetic structure of the Iberian peninsula revealed by Y-chromosome analysis: implications for population demography" there are several regional results for Y-DNA, but all show +50% of R1b, so that if Morsicos shared the same genetic pattern they might show some R1b percentage also.

In Figure 2 of "Mitochondrial DNA and Y-chromosome microstructure in Tunisia" there is the Y-DNA of two central Tunisian villages, Bou Omrane and Bou Saad, that could be used as the mean Tunisian Y-DNA: 2 E1b1a*, 2 E1b1b1a*, 72 E1b1b1b*, 1 F*, 2 J1*, 1 P*.

In "Genetic Structure of Tunisian Ethnic Groups Revealed by Paternal Lineages" the Y-DNA of 32 Andalusis of Zaghouan was tested (Figure 2): 1 E1b1b1a, 13 E1b1b1b, 3 F, 14 J1c and 1 J2a5.

The conclusion from the last paper was:

Besides Berbers, one of the ethnic groups differentiated in Tunisia are Andalusians, who are supposed to be descendants of some groups expelled from southern Spain at the end of the 15th century. Despite their cultural differences with surrounding Arab and Berber populations, their male genetic background is similar to Cosmopolitan Arabs in Tunisia without traces of European lineages, suggesting a North African, rather than European, origin of this group. This result agrees with the data provided by mtDNA lineages in Andalusians (Cherni et al., 2009) and points to a cultural rather than a genetic influence from southern Spain in these Andalusian groups.

So a question is to be done: what it is supposed to succed with the R1b's?