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Tomenable
17-06-16, 23:25
Poles are more closely autosomally related to Latvians than any other Slavic group:

Genetic distance between Latvians and:

0) Latvians - 0,0000
1) Lithuanians - 0,0000
2) Poles - 0,0011
3) Central Russians - 0,0014
4) Belarusians - 0,0015
5) South Russians - 0,0018
6) Ukrainians - 0,0019
7) Slovaks - 0,0026
8) Czechs - 0,0029
9) Croatians - 0,0036
10) Slovenes - 0,0037
11) Bosnians - 0,0038
12) Serbians - 0,0054
13) Bulgarians - 0,0059
14) Macedonians - 0,0066
15) Montenegrins - 0,0073
16) North Russians - 0,0096

In case of Lithuanians, Poles are second and Belarusians first among Slavic groups:

Genetic distance between Lithuanians and:

0) Lithuanians - 0,0000
1) Latvians - 0,0000
2) Belarusians - 0,0008
3) Poles - 0,0011
4) Ukrainians - 0,0020
5) Central Russians - 0,0021
6) South Russians - 0,0022
7) Czechs - 0,0026
8) Slovaks - 0,0030
9) Croatians - 0,0036
10) Slovenes - 0,0042
11) Bosnians - 0,0042
12) Serbians - 0,0052
13) Bulgarians - 0,0058
14) Macedonians - 0,0065
15) Montenegrins - 0,0077
16) Norh Russians - 0,0098

Source:

A. Kushniarevich et al., "Genetic Heritage of the Balto-Slavic Speaking Populations", Table B in S1 File.
Matrix of mean population pairwise Fst for Balto-Slavic populations calculated from autosomal SNP data.

Tomenable
17-06-16, 23:26
In terms of phenotypes I think that there is also a large overlap between Poles and these 15,000 Latvians:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Q_KVLDR9c

LeBrok
18-06-16, 05:25
Cool. It would be interesting to figure out when did it happen? Was it during Slavic expansion and heavy mixing, or was it a slow process during times of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?

Sennevini
18-06-16, 14:17
Maybe it has to do with the Old Prussians, which were Baltic?

arvistro
18-06-16, 15:03
Hm.
So, this is not Poles to Latvians (ahead of all Slavs), but Latvians to Poles (ahead of all Slavs).

Other valid close choises for Latvians are Lithuanians (done, ahead of Poles), Estonians (not in study), Belarussians (below Poles), Russians (below Poles).
Why Poles ahead of them others? I will think :)

arvistro
18-06-16, 16:39
OK, I thought.
No idea :)
The links for Poles and Latvians are many, and quite surely CW was great Mother for both folks.
There were West Balts as substrate for both Poles and Latvians BUT there was East Balts as substrate for Belorussians which should be more important link.
There were Polish immigrants or colonists in Latvia in different times, but was it bigger than Belorussian?

So, many reasons for Poles to be similar to Latvians (and vice versa) but no real reason for Latvians to be less similar to Belarussians.

LeBrok
18-06-16, 20:10
Did they sampled Poles from all Poland or mostly from North-East?

Milan
18-06-16, 22:05
Very interesting data,I'm not surprised about this.
Territory of Poland share history with that area much more than with any other.

arvistro
18-06-16, 22:16
I wonder how this looks from opposite direction.
Of Balto-Slavic people Poles are our (Latvian) second closest population after Lithuanians (that is fair enough, except for Belarus).
But I am fairly confident we (Latvians) are not second closest to Poles.
I would expect for Poles smthg like:
Belarussians 0.0002
Ukrainians 0.0003
Russians 0.0005
Latvians, Lithuanians 0.0011

Nothing to be surprised really.

Tomenable
19-06-16, 17:57
I wonder how this looks from opposite direction.
Of Balto-Slavic people Poles are our (Latvian) second closest population after Lithuanians (that is fair enough, except for Belarus).
But I am fairly confident we (Latvians) are not second closest to Poles.
I would expect for Poles smthg like:
Belarussians 0.0002
Ukrainians 0.0003
Russians 0.0005
Latvians, Lithuanians 0.0011

Nothing to be surprised really.

Genetic distance between Poles and:

0) Poles - 0,0000
1) Belarusians - 0,0000
2) Ukrainians - 0,0002
3) South Russians - 0,0004
4) Czechs - 0,0005
5) Slovaks - 0,0006
6) Central Russians - 0,0010
7) Lithuanians, Latvians - 0,0011
9) Croatians - 0,0013
10) Slovenes - 0,0015
11) Bosnians - 0,0017
12) Serbians - 0,0023
13) Bulgarians - 0,0030
14) Macedonians - 0,0031
15) Montenegrins - 0,0043
16) North Russians - 0,0087

Source: the same

Tomenable
19-06-16, 18:03
Did they sampled Poles from all Poland or mostly from North-East?

From all of Poland, AFAIK.

LeBrok
19-06-16, 18:35
Genetic distance between Poles and:

0) Poles - 0,0000
1) Belarusians - 0,0000
2) Ukrainians - 0,0002
3) South Russians - 0,0004
4) Czechs - 0,0005
5) Slovaks - 0,0006
6) Central Russians - 0,0010
7) Lithuanians, Latvians - 0,0011
9) Croatians - 0,0013
10) Slovenes - 0,0015
11) Bosnians - 0,0017
12) Serbians - 0,0023
13) Bulgarians - 0,0030
14) Macedonians - 0,0031
15) Montenegrins - 0,0043
16) North Russians - 0,0087

Source: the same
I'm surprised Poles are closer to South Russians than to Slovaks or Czechs.

srdceleva
19-06-16, 18:57
Interesting but a bit misleading until tomenable posted poles to other countries which made better sense. Im not suprised though that lithuanians and Poles are highly related genetically as many poles I know look very baltic. Im also suprised to see poles closer to southern russians than they are to czechs and slovaks, possible later expansions from southern russia into poland maybe?

srdceleva
19-06-16, 19:06
In the study that was sourced only samples from North east Poland were sampled for autosomal dna, would be a more informitive study if southern and wester poles had also been sampled autosomally

LeBrok
19-06-16, 19:10
Interesting but a bit misleading until tomenable posted poles to other countries which made better sense. Im not suprised though that lithuanians and Poles are highly related genetically as many poles I know look very baltic. Im also suprised to see poles closer to southern russians than they are to czechs and slovaks, possible later expansions from southern russia into poland maybe?Is this where a second tribe Polans (Polanie) by Kiev was? Welcome to Eupedia srdceleva.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/East_Slavic_tribes_peoples_8th_9th_century.jpg

Tomenable
19-06-16, 19:33
I'm surprised Poles are closer to South Russians than to Slovaks or Czechs.

"South Russians" are genetically Ukrainians who identify as Russians. Maybe that is why.

Otherwise how to explain that Central Russians are already much farther away from Poles.


In the study that was sourced only samples from North east Poland were sampled for autosomal dna

So maybe that's why Czechs and Slovaks are 0,0005 and 0,0006 rather than even closer.

But are you sure that only North-East Poles were sampled? Where did you find this info?

Tomenable
19-06-16, 19:37
possible later expansions from southern russia into poland maybe?

More probably expansions from Poland/Ukraine to Southern Russia.

Or maybe not only expansions, but also deportations of Poles.

For example there is a large Polish Diaspora in Kazakhstan:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles_in_Kazakhstan#Migration_history

Another wave came during WW2, but some later escaped to Persia:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?217905-Polish-Iranian-friendship-getting-stronger&p=4505603&viewfull=1#post4505603


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpJvDQVX_Dc

srdceleva
19-06-16, 19:46
thank you for the welcome Lebrok. Very interesting there could possibly be a link between the two tribes, it would explain some things, though the term polan could just be a common name for a tribe that lives in fields.

srdceleva
19-06-16, 19:49
if you go to the study and look at the figure on page 4/19 you will see a map signifying where there samples for y dna, mt dna, and autosomal dna came from. Autosomal is indicated with a triangle. In poland you will see its from the north east. Also in slovakia the samples seem to be taken from very far west, which may also account for the genetic distance between poles and slovaks

srdceleva
19-06-16, 19:54
wow never knew poles were also sent to persia. Polish people either forced or willingly ended up in so many places in the world spreading the slavic genes to the masses lol!

LeBrok
19-06-16, 20:46
thank you for the welcome Lebrok. Very interesting there could possibly be a link between the two tribes, it would explain some things, though the term polan could just be a common name for a tribe that lives in fields.You are absolutely right, I was just entertaining a long shot idea.

srdceleva
20-06-16, 10:16
Tomenable, could you also do a chart for slovaks compared to the other samples in the study? i can only see the map they created not the actual distances

gyms
20-06-16, 13:11
Is this where a second tribe Polans (Polanie) by Kiev was? Welcome to Eupedia srdceleva.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/East_Slavic_tribes_peoples_8th_9th_century.jpg

Valachians in Transylvania around 700-800?

The first written sources of Romanian settlements date to the 13th century; the first cited Romanian township was Olahteluk (1283) in Bihar County (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bihar_County).[32] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Transylvania#cite_note-32)[33] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Transylvania#cite_note-Tam.C3.A1s_Kis-33) The "land of Romanians" (Terram Blacorum)[34] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Transylvania#cite_note-34)[35] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Transylvania#cite_note-35)[36] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Transylvania#cite_note-36)[33] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Transylvania#cite_note-Tam.C3.A1s_Kis-33) appeared in Fogaras (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C4%83g%C4%83ra%C8%99), and this area was mentioned under the name "Olachi" in 1285.[33] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Transylvania#cite_note-Tam.C3.A1s_Kis-33) The first appearance of a Romanian name (Ola) in Hungary appears in a 1258 charter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Transylvania

srdceleva
25-03-17, 17:25
I wrote out lists for all the other Slavic populations and wrote some interesting conclusions about the results from this study

Bulgaria
Macedonians-0,0000
Serbians - 0,0000
Bosnians/Croatians - 0,0007
Slovenians- 0,0012
Montenegrins - 0,0014
Slovaks - 0,0016
Macedonians
Bulgaria - 0,0000
Serbia - 0,0004
Bosnians/Croatians - 0,0007
Slovenia - 0,0013
Montenegrins/ Czechs - 0,0017
Slovaks - 0,0021
Montenegrins
Serbia - 0,0007
Bulgaria - 0,0014
Macedonians/Bosnians - 0,0017
Croatians - 0,0018
Slovenes - 0,0021
Slovaks - 0,0030
Serbia
Bulgaria - 0,0000
Croatians – 0,0002
Bosnians – 0,0003
Macedonians – 0,0004
Montenegrins – 0,0007
Czechs/Slovaks – 0,0012
Bosnia
Croatians – 0,0001
Serbia – 0,0003
Bulgarians/Macedonians – 0,0007
Slovenes/Czechs – 0,0008
Slovaks – 0,0010
Montenegrins – 0,0017
Croatians
Bosnians – 0,0001
Serbians – 0,0002
Slovenes/Czechs – 0,0004
Bulgarians/Macedonians – 0,0007
Slovaks – 0,0008
Montenegrins – 0,0018
Slovenians
Croatians – 0,0004
Slovaks/Bosnians – 0,0008
Ukrainians – 0,0009
Czechs – 0,0011
Bulgarians – 0,0012
Macedonians/Serbians – 0,0013
Czechs
Slovaks/Croatians – 0,0004
Poles – 0,0005
Ukrainians – 0,0007
Bosnians – 0,0008
South Russians – 0,0009
Slovenes/Belarusians – 0,0011
Slovaks
Czechs – 0,0004
Poles – 0,0006
Ukrainians – 0,0007
Croatians/Slovenians – 0,0008
Bosnians – 0,0010
Serbians/Belarusian/South Russians – 0,0012
Sorbs
Czechs/Ukrainians – 0,0021
Poles – 0,0022
Belarusian – 0,0023
Slovaks/South Russian – 0,0026
Croatians – 0,0028
Slovenians – 0,0029
Poles
Belarusians – 0,0000
Ukrainians – 0,0002
South Russians – 0,0004
Czechs – 0,0005
Slovaks – 0,0006
Russians Central – 0,0010
Ukrainians
Poles – 0,0002
Belarusians – 0,0003
South Russians – 0,0006
Slovaks/Czechs – 0,0007
Slovenians – 0,0009
Croatians – 0,0010
Belarusians
Poles – 0,0000
Ukrainians – 0,0003
South Russians – 0,0005
Lithuanians – 0,0008
Czechs – 0,0011
Slovaks/Central Russians – 0,0012
Russia South
Poles – 0,0004
Belarusians – 0,0005
Ukrainians – 0,0006
Central Russians – 0,0008
Czechs – 0,0009
Slovaks – 0,0012
Russia Central
South Russians – 0,0008
Poles – 0,0010
Belarusians/ Ukrainians – 0,0012
Latvians – 0,0014
Slovaks – 0,0018
Czechs/ Lithuanians – 0,0021
Russia North
Central Russians - 0,0059
South Russians – 0,0086
Poles – 0,0087
Belarusians/ Ukrainians – 0,0089
Latvians – 0,0096
Slovaks/Lithuanians – 0,0098
Interesting conclusions
Sorbs though largely from Slavic stock and distant to their Germanic neighbors are a genetic isolate and quite distant from all other Slavic populations. Their closest relatives being Czechs followed closely by poles

Montenegrins also seem to be a genetic isolate with their closest relatives being serbians (0,0007) followed by Bulgaria (0,0014). This could be due to the mountainous reigion they inhabit.


Poles( at least from North eastern Poland) and Belarusians are genetically indistinguishable. Ukraine/Poland/Belarus form a tight genetic group covering a very large geographic area. However the sampling in this study doesn’t account for regional differention such as western Ukraine and South Eastern Poland.

Czechs are genetically just as related to Slovaks as they are to Croatians. This could be due to the fact that R1a in both Croatia and the Czech republic are almost esclusively R1a-M458, while R1a in Slovakia is over 50% of East Slavic sub clads. An interesting note, is that this is the case for Slovenians as well, hence Slovaks are closer related to Slovenians than Czechs are.

Northern Russians are drastically different from other Slavic peoples genetically.

Tomenable
25-03-17, 19:37
I think that Polish samples used in this study were all actually North-Eastern Poles.

Can someone check if this was the case? This could explain so high affinity to Balts.

I have several dozen Polish GEDmatch kits and ~20 Polish DNA.Land Ancestry Reports.

There are considerable regional differences visible both in GEDmatch and in DNA.Land.

But the problem is that today the majority of Poles have ancestry from several regions.

srdceleva
25-03-17, 20:11
According to davidiski

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LeBrok
25-03-17, 22:13
I wrote out lists for all the other Slavic populations and wrote some interesting conclusions about the results from this study

Bulgaria
Macedonians-0,0000
Serbians - 0,0000
Bosnians/Croatians - 0,0007
Slovenians- 0,0012
Montenegrins - 0,0014
Slovaks - 0,0016
Macedonians
Bulgaria - 0,0000
Serbia - 0,0004
Bosnians/Croatians - 0,0007
Slovenia - 0,0013
Montenegrins/ Czechs - 0,0017
Slovaks - 0,0021
Montenegrins
Serbia - 0,0007
Bulgaria - 0,0014
Macedonians/Bosnians - 0,0017
Croatians - 0,0018
Slovenes - 0,0021
Slovaks - 0,0030
Serbia
Bulgaria - 0,0000
Croatians – 0,0002
Bosnians – 0,0003
Macedonians – 0,0004
Montenegrins – 0,0007
Czechs/Slovaks – 0,0012
Bosnia
Croatians – 0,0001
Serbia – 0,0003
Bulgarians/Macedonians – 0,0007
Slovenes/Czechs – 0,0008
Slovaks – 0,0010
Montenegrins – 0,0017
Croatians
Bosnians – 0,0001
Serbians – 0,0002
Slovenes/Czechs – 0,0004
Bulgarians/Macedonians – 0,0007
Slovaks – 0,0008
Montenegrins – 0,0018
Slovenians
Croatians – 0,0004
Slovaks/Bosnians – 0,0008
Ukrainians – 0,0009
Czechs – 0,0011
Bulgarians – 0,0012
Macedonians/Serbians – 0,0013
Czechs
Slovaks/Croatians – 0,0004
Poles – 0,0005
Ukrainians – 0,0007
Bosnians – 0,0008
South Russians – 0,0009
Slovenes/Belarusians – 0,0011
Slovaks
Czechs – 0,0004
Poles – 0,0006
Ukrainians – 0,0007
Croatians/Slovenians – 0,0008
Bosnians – 0,0010
Serbians/Belarusian/South Russians – 0,0012
Sorbs
Czechs/Ukrainians – 0,0021
Poles – 0,0022
Belarusian – 0,0023
Slovaks/South Russian – 0,0026
Croatians – 0,0028
Slovenians – 0,0029
Poles
Belarusians – 0,0000
Ukrainians – 0,0002
South Russians – 0,0004
Czechs – 0,0005
Slovaks – 0,0006
Russians Central – 0,0010
Ukrainians
Poles – 0,0002
Belarusians – 0,0003
South Russians – 0,0006
Slovaks/Czechs – 0,0007
Slovenians – 0,0009
Croatians – 0,0010
Belarusians
Poles – 0,0000
Ukrainians – 0,0003
South Russians – 0,0005
Lithuanians – 0,0008
Czechs – 0,0011
Slovaks/Central Russians – 0,0012
Russia South
Poles – 0,0004
Belarusians – 0,0005
Ukrainians – 0,0006
Central Russians – 0,0008
Czechs – 0,0009
Slovaks – 0,0012
Russia Central
South Russians – 0,0008
Poles – 0,0010
Belarusians/ Ukrainians – 0,0012
Latvians – 0,0014
Slovaks – 0,0018
Czechs/ Lithuanians – 0,0021
Russia North
Central Russians - 0,0059
South Russians – 0,0086
Poles – 0,0087
Belarusians/ Ukrainians – 0,0089
Latvians – 0,0096
Slovaks/Lithuanians – 0,0098
Interesting conclusions
Sorbs though largely from Slavic stock and distant to their Germanic neighbors are a genetic isolate and quite distant from all other Slavic populations. Their closest relatives being Czechs followed closely by poles

Montenegrins also seem to be a genetic isolate with their closest relatives being serbians (0,0007) followed by Bulgaria (0,0014). This could be due to the mountainous reigion they inhabit.


Poles( at least from North eastern Poland) and Belarusians are genetically indistinguishable. Ukraine/Poland/Belarus form a tight genetic group covering a very large geographic area. However the sampling in this study doesn’t account for regional differention such as western Ukraine and South Eastern Poland.

Czechs are genetically just as related to Slovaks as they are to Croatians. This could be due to the fact that R1a in both Croatia and the Czech republic are almost esclusively R1a-M458, while R1a in Slovakia is over 50% of East Slavic sub clads. An interesting note, is that this is the case for Slovenians as well, hence Slovaks are closer related to Slovenians than Czechs are.

Northern Russians are drastically different from other Slavic peoples genetically. Thanks for putting so much work in it. As you said the results might be skewed a bit because of small sample group. But interesting nevertheless.

Another interesting Slavic center is Serbs, Bulgarians and Macedonians. I was expecting Serbs to be closest to Bosnians but Bosnians turned to be closer to Chroats.

srdceleva
25-03-17, 22:55
Thanks for putting so much work in it. As you said the results might be skewed a bit because of small sample group. But interesting nevertheless.

Another interesting Slavic center is Serbs, Bulgarians and Macedonians. I was expecting Serbs to be closest to Bosnians but Bosnians turned to be closer to Chroats.
Your welcome, it was a bit tedious :)

Yes I found that interesting as well, still Bosnians , Croatians, and Serbians seem to all be highly related to eachother . What is really surprising is how after Serbians , Montenegrins closest relatives are Bulgarians but with a distance of .0014. Croatians are more closely related to Ukrainians than they are to Montenegrins.

I'm also suprised that slovaks and their neighbors aren't closer. I expected slovaks and czechs to be even closer than they are same with poles and slovaks.

Tomenable
02-10-17, 14:18
They used samples from North-Eastern Poles, who are close to Latvians:

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/34485-Subdivisions-of-Polish-people?p=520621&viewfull=1#post520621

^^^
This guy (user EastPole from ABF) has 88% similarity to Latvians in K36:

https://i.imgur.com/wY6gSe5.png

Tomenable
02-10-17, 14:55
Sorbs though largely from Slavic stock and distant to their Germanic neighbors are a genetic isolate and quite distant from all other Slavic populations. Their closest relatives being Czechs followed closely by Poles

Only because they did not use Wielkopolska region Poles in that study.

The closest relatives of Sorbs are Wielkopolska Poles (94% similarity):

http://i.imgur.com/YLRzalt.png

Dagne
07-10-17, 11:29
In the study that was sourced only samples from North east Poland were sampled for autosomal dna, would be a more informitive study if southern and wester poles had also been sampled autosomally

I agree, many people in territories of former Jotvingiai spoke Lithuanian, not Polish. In 1501 King of Poland Alexander Jagiellon passes a decree that 28 churches in Polish territories like Goniądz must have Lithuanian speaking priests. With time, people lost their Lithuanian language and identity, and identify themselves as Polish, only with small Lithuanian minorities left in Punsk and some other place.

mlukas
14-10-17, 22:08
Kushnarevich used samples of Estonian Poles, actually they have self reporting Polish ancestry and mostly there were mixed with Estonians and Russians. They were completely unrepresentative as Polish reference.

halfalp
15-10-17, 15:26
It's actually not very surprising at all because mazovia or pomerania are primally baltic people territory, it would be interesting to compare poles and lituanians dna for exemple with possibly germanic imput from late antiquity wich would confirm that slavic speaking Poles, were an intrusive tribe with an elite who just took the gap create by germanic migrations. In conclusion, large part of modern poland have to be in major balts with change in cultural linguistic, like large part of east germany are slavic people with plattdeutsch for language.

mlukas
17-10-17, 12:15
It's actually not very surprising at all because mazovia or pomerania are primally baltic people territory, it would be interesting to compare poles and lituanians dna for exemple with possibly germanic imput from late antiquity wich would confirm that slavic speaking Poles, were an intrusive tribe with an elite who just took the gap create by germanic migrations. In conclusion, large part of modern poland have to be in major balts with change in cultural linguistic, like large part of east germany are slavic people with plattdeutsch for language.

Could be some inlfuence in Kasubians and northern Masovians. The problem is we don't have academic Masovian or Kashubian sample. I use Gedmatch kits of primarily Masovian and Kasubian ancestry in my calculations, Tomenable also the same dataset. But our results / PCA will be ignored by official scientists:)

AdeoF
17-10-17, 18:03
I wrote out lists for all the other Slavic populations and wrote some interesting conclusions about the results from this study

Bulgaria
Macedonians-0,0000
Serbians - 0,0000
Bosnians/Croatians - 0,0007
Slovenians- 0,0012
Montenegrins - 0,0014
Slovaks - 0,0016
Macedonians
Bulgaria - 0,0000
Serbia - 0,0004
Bosnians/Croatians - 0,0007
Slovenia - 0,0013
Montenegrins/ Czechs - 0,0017
Slovaks - 0,0021
Montenegrins
Serbia - 0,0007
Bulgaria - 0,0014
Macedonians/Bosnians - 0,0017
Croatians - 0,0018
Slovenes - 0,0021
Slovaks - 0,0030
Serbia
Bulgaria - 0,0000
Croatians – 0,0002
Bosnians – 0,0003
Macedonians – 0,0004
Montenegrins – 0,0007
Czechs/Slovaks – 0,0012
Bosnia
Croatians – 0,0001
Serbia – 0,0003
Bulgarians/Macedonians – 0,0007
Slovenes/Czechs – 0,0008
Slovaks – 0,0010
Montenegrins – 0,0017
Croatians
Bosnians – 0,0001
Serbians – 0,0002
Slovenes/Czechs – 0,0004
Bulgarians/Macedonians – 0,0007
Slovaks – 0,0008
Montenegrins – 0,0018
Slovenians
Croatians – 0,0004
Slovaks/Bosnians – 0,0008
Ukrainians – 0,0009
Czechs – 0,0011
Bulgarians – 0,0012
Macedonians/Serbians – 0,0013
Czechs
Slovaks/Croatians – 0,0004
Poles – 0,0005
Ukrainians – 0,0007
Bosnians – 0,0008
South Russians – 0,0009
Slovenes/Belarusians – 0,0011
Slovaks
Czechs – 0,0004
Poles – 0,0006
Ukrainians – 0,0007
Croatians/Slovenians – 0,0008
Bosnians – 0,0010
Serbians/Belarusian/South Russians – 0,0012
Sorbs
Czechs/Ukrainians – 0,0021
Poles – 0,0022
Belarusian – 0,0023
Slovaks/South Russian – 0,0026
Croatians – 0,0028
Slovenians – 0,0029
Poles
Belarusians – 0,0000
Ukrainians – 0,0002
South Russians – 0,0004
Czechs – 0,0005
Slovaks – 0,0006
Russians Central – 0,0010
Ukrainians
Poles – 0,0002
Belarusians – 0,0003
South Russians – 0,0006
Slovaks/Czechs – 0,0007
Slovenians – 0,0009
Croatians – 0,0010
Belarusians
Poles – 0,0000
Ukrainians – 0,0003
South Russians – 0,0005
Lithuanians – 0,0008
Czechs – 0,0011
Slovaks/Central Russians – 0,0012
Russia South
Poles – 0,0004
Belarusians – 0,0005
Ukrainians – 0,0006
Central Russians – 0,0008
Czechs – 0,0009
Slovaks – 0,0012
Russia Central
South Russians – 0,0008
Poles – 0,0010
Belarusians/ Ukrainians – 0,0012
Latvians – 0,0014
Slovaks – 0,0018
Czechs/ Lithuanians – 0,0021
Russia North
Central Russians - 0,0059
South Russians – 0,0086
Poles – 0,0087
Belarusians/ Ukrainians – 0,0089
Latvians – 0,0096
Slovaks/Lithuanians – 0,0098
Interesting conclusions
Sorbs though largely from Slavic stock and distant to their Germanic neighbors are a genetic isolate and quite distant from all other Slavic populations. Their closest relatives being Czechs followed closely by poles

Montenegrins also seem to be a genetic isolate with their closest relatives being serbians (0,0007) followed by Bulgaria (0,0014). This could be due to the mountainous reigion they inhabit.


Poles( at least from North eastern Poland) and Belarusians are genetically indistinguishable. Ukraine/Poland/Belarus form a tight genetic group covering a very large geographic area. However the sampling in this study doesn’t account for regional differention such as western Ukraine and South Eastern Poland.

Czechs are genetically just as related to Slovaks as they are to Croatians. This could be due to the fact that R1a in both Croatia and the Czech republic are almost esclusively R1a-M458, while R1a in Slovakia is over 50% of East Slavic sub clads. An interesting note, is that this is the case for Slovenians as well, hence Slovaks are closer related to Slovenians than Czechs are.

Northern Russians are drastically different from other Slavic peoples genetically.

That was a very interesting post about the genetic similarities of each Slavic nation. Also great conclusion on that too.