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Thank you Maleth! Why do you think this is the case?
What do you think "italian specialist" Angela?
thanks bicicleur! Munich, Berlin or Hamburg?
Yes he would stay unnoted here, I guess.....: View attachment 7917
about Italians who look like Northern Europeans it obviously works also the other way around. Long live the diversity of Europe!Believe it or not I have cousins who look a little bit like you
Sorry I didn't respond earlier. I didn't see it.
It's very hard to "guess" with older people. I'm afraid that things start to naturally "sag" a bit, and they put on weight, all of which obscures the bones of the face.
If I had guessed, I might have said southern German/Austrian first.
Please, I'm not a "specialist" in Italians...I've just lived among them and seen a lot of them over time, so I can sometimes spot them.
As far as similarities to older Italian men, yes there is some, but still different, I think. Here he is again.
Here is Pietro Grasso, who is an Italian politician from Sicily. He's less "Mediterranean" looking than many Italians, but he's still a bit different from your relative.
I'm trying to think of someone from my own area, but all the public people who come to mind still retain somewhat sharper features even in old age.
This is Loris Jacopo Bononi, from my area, a writer, scientist, great historian of the Lunigiana...quite different, I think...
Maybe he would fit more within this kind of variation? They zoom in on the singers around 1:00.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCuxZKSATak
The only explanation is that there's a lot of variation in Europe, although more in some countries than in others, but that's to be expected, I think, given that we're all mixtures in different proportions of the same couple of ancient groups. Just look at the percentages on the new calculator:
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/32619-Ancient-Eurasia-K6?p=487123
Nor do I think that "phenotype" is strictly connected with certain "components". They sort of float, I think.
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And than look close to his mother, ok it's an old picture (sorry for the bad effect):
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Some phenotypes are very more common in certain countries than in others. So groups are a bit easier to put in their country of origin than individuals, among whom a lot can pass in a lot of countries. So classify individuals by country is more a guess play than a scientific job, what does not prevent sometimes to distinguish phenotypic components what is not total auDNA component.
I love these old photos. I think your father must have got his looks from his mum as your grandfather is much more typical dutch looking in my opinion.
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