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Diurpaneus
11-08-16, 22:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw4U6iBItd8


Course of Vulgar Latin(ethnographic-oriented)


The melodies are really old,but it is
the shepherds' creativty that always
changes the verses,it goes like this:


"When the breasts are like apples
To girls the hair grows"

The boys have come from Jina,Marginimea Sibiului,one of the
main hot-spots of Vlachness,their singing and verse styles are surely pastoral.

Diurpaneus
11-08-16, 22:43
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZDXejvbhWE

Diurpaneus
11-08-16, 22:58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgBlGxN4Cdg

Diurpaneus
11-08-16, 23:29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grrT2Znbblc

Diurpaneus
12-08-16, 12:37
Old Wallachian song

"My darling with black scarf
I would eat your tongue from the mouth
And a dimple in the cheek,and a dimple in the cheek
What the hell are you doing when you're in trouble?"



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giMQJZMHlJY


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The word for darling is mandra,literally "The Proud One".

Diurpaneus
12-08-16, 18:30
Who Am I?
I am this tone named Alexandru.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6y77blgi0g&index=8&list=RDUuKQi5-JD88



The emperor did not relent, but every year he marched into Bulgaria and laid
waste and ravaged all before him. Samuel was not able to resist openly, nor to
face the emperor in open warfare, so, weakened from all sides, he came down
from his lofty lair to fortify the entrance to Bulgaria with ditches and fences.
Knowing that the emperor always made his incursions through the [plain]
known as Campu Lungu and [the pass known as] Kleidion (‘the key’), he undertook
to fortify the difficult terrain to deny the emperor access. A wall was built
across the whole width [of the pass] and worthy defenders were committed to
it to stand against the emperor.When he arrived and made an attempt to enter
[Bulgaria], the guards defended the wall manfully and bombarded and
wounded the attackers from above. When the emperor had thus despaired of
gaining passage, Nicephorus Xiphias, the strategos of Philippopolis,met with the
emperor and urged him to stay put and continue to assault the wall, while, as
he explained, he turned back with his men and, heading round to the south of
Kleidion through rough and trackless country, crossed the very high mountain
known as Belasica. On  July, in the twelfth indiction [, Xiphias and his
men] descended suddenly on the Bulgarians, from behind and screaming battle
cries. Panic stricken by the sudden assault [the Bulgarians] turned to flee, while
the emperor broke through the abandoned wall. Many [Bulgarians] fell and
many more were captured; Samuel barely escaped from danger with the aid of
his son, who fought nobly against his attackers, placed him on a horse, and
made for the fortress known as Prilep"
(Byzantium's Balkan Frontier)

"Basil II was defeated by Samuel at a pass called Kimba Longus or Kleidion which is almost surely the equivalent of the Rumanian Campulung (Campus longus), a frequently-used place name."

http://www.kroraina.com/bulgar/wolff_appA.html

Traditional costumes from Arges(unique in Romania):


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Macedonian costumes:

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Yetos
13-08-16, 04:41
the music is written by Markopoulos at 1979
based on the Makedonikos dance Συρτος Syrtos or to the local idiom Domakini = housekeeper (Domos-a = house Δομη=structure)
and the poem is older by Panos Theodoridis
first singer was G Ntalaras.
and later performer is P Gaetanos
and is dedicated to the mother of Alexander the Great,
a song dedicated to the mother who's only son has left her alone.

the prototype of virgin Mairy, the mother in big pain.
the poorless mother who lost her son.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS7PuwLKu0IMEQAbYF11q077GWJdGazR K3WFhsf9UH_fd3lYkI2


the origianal lyrics by poet Theodoridis

At Macedonia of old times
I met Alexander's mother
She started chatting with me at the countrysides
She was working at night with witches


Oh wonderful Macedonia
Why are you crying and melting like a candle
I have an only son, poor me,
And he's gone to the East


Dangers and ambushes waiting for him
Dark words of people and calamities
Alone he stands them and he passes
His torments doesn't have an ending


At Macedonia of old times
I met Alexander's mother
At the moon she's searching for witches
In her dream she brings the Greeks


an old video by first performer from 80's


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oyUkG2ySkc

Diurpaneus
13-08-16, 22:08
Vlach song from Macedonia:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuKQi5-JD88




The singers experience a reserved joy that is marked by a certain degree of contemplation at their
meeting with nature.
Their melody speaks of high mountains,orchards,that makes the heart to be "full of charms",


"A lea inima a mea, lea, inima a mea
mplinâ cu farmatse, lea inima a mea
mplinâ cu farmatse. "

http://cincari.org/muzika/A_lai_munte_analtu.html


but these moments are spoiled by loneliness, remembering that they don't
have an older brother or sister to care about them.

Diurpaneus
13-08-16, 22:16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gHFcz2ID4Y


The feelings are genuine,because the word for charms is a Latin one,
farmatse,farmece in Romanian;despite complaining,they are not selfish
and wish to all to be healthy.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/farmec

A real example of decency,without a doubt.
They can afford it,because, returning from the middle
of nature,the melancholy and loneliness become only
two strangers.

Diurpaneus
14-08-16, 13:19
An old Romanian song from Banat:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDwQi-v5niw


Little Moon,little Moon
On the little street,in the night
Make me a little light
On the slope ,in the night


In the evening I will stay
From the village far away
With two horses
coloured like doves


I didn't stole them
But I bought them
From the village,from Banat
The money to count
At the Moon's rays
That,like a fountain,cries


The singer is blind,but he sees the Moon as a lover,
addressing with the diminutive.
In fact, almost every word is involved in this process,he starts his lament
by asking the Moon to make light for keeping him out of the sad loneliness.
His sole hope came from the only other living beings,his horses,that carefully
became the messengers of love, to fly beyond the barriers of the two Worlds and
finally reach the Moon.


These songs are dedicated to all the Romanian and Vlach women.

EDIT

The original verse is "I have counted the money",
but I haven't found a proper rhyme.

Diurpaneus
14-08-16, 21:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MML-_uQ0zdg

"The shepherd that has lost his sheeps" is a common Romanian theme,one
that has the power to reach the lyrical peak.

The shepherd becomes a wandering Sisyphus, condemned by his own ambition,
he starts an useless search,finding only stones instead of sheeps.






"But, in the poetry edition among many shepherd songs we can
find one poem entitled: Wołoszyn owce rozproszył [the Vlach who had lost his sheep]
from O. Kolberg’s collection, discovered in Poznan."

https://www.google.ro/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiV9veF0sHOAhXJLcAKHcapBJAQFggaMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpressto.amu.edu.pl%2Findex.php%2F bp%2Farticle%2Fdownload%2F3900%2F4045&usg=AFQjCNEKtLsnJjLQLiWfDKLQ9ij-GWF8SA&bvm=bv.129422649,d.bGs

Diurpaneus
14-08-16, 21:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MML-_uQ0zdg

"The shepherd that has lost his sheeps" is a common Romanian theme,one
that has the power to reach the lyrical peak.

The shepherd becomes a wandering Sisyphus, condemned by his own ambition,
he starts an useless search,finding only stones instead of sheeps.




"But, in the poetry edition among many shepherd songs we can
find one poem entitled: Wołoszyn owce rozproszył [the Vlach who had lost his sheep]
from O. Kolberg’s collection, discovered in Poznan."

https://www.google.ro/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiV9veF0sHOAhXJLcAKHcapBJAQFggaMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpressto.amu.edu.pl%2Findex.php%2F bp%2Farticle%2Fdownload%2F3900%2F4045&usg=AFQjCNEKtLsnJjLQLiWfDKLQ9ij-GWF8SA&bvm=bv.129422649,d.bGs

Diurpaneus
15-08-16, 22:11
the music is written by Markopoulos at 1979
based on the Makedonikos dance Συρτος Syrtos or to the local idiom Domakini = housekeeper (Domos-a = house Δομη=structure)
and the poem is older by Panos Theodoridis
first singer was G Ntalaras.
and later performer is P Gaetanos
and is dedicated to the mother of Alexander the Great,
a song dedicated to the mother who's only son has left her alone.

the prototype of virgin Mairy, the mother in big pain.
the poorless mother who lost her son.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS7PuwLKu0IMEQAbYF11q077GWJdGazR K3WFhsf9UH_fd3lYkI2






I like alot the women from my father's county,Arges,an example of true grace and wit, always optimistic,tender and lively,although they have a more discrete appearance,not related to coldness or solemnity,it's just that these characteristics
aren't boosted,like in the case of the Italian,the attitude surely doesn't lack,but they are less aggressive than
ragazzas.Of course,these attributes imply sensitivity.


This is a clear picture of them:

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But, SW of Arges there is a region called Oltenia that strongly resembles ,
probably coincidentally,Italy,there is a great rivalry between these lands,
for the peoples from Arges "oltean" is a pejorative term,that designates a
way too inappropriate behaviour,this is alot,because they are too full of
arrogance and not always placid.

All of them,from Arges(don't look for the anthropological type
,the strong-Dinaric ones have far lesser chances to be models):

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Angela
15-08-16, 23:34
Generalizing much? Stereotyping much? Passive aggressive much?

Your comments are still obviously insulting.

Be careful of whom you insult.

These kinds of comments sound like something my grandfather would have said, and I don't want to tell you when he was born, or like something out of some bad Victorian novel. Even my father didn't talk like this, much less my husband or my son. None of them were or are threatened by, or feel emasculated by strong women, or fear competing with them.

You people from the Balkans and eastern Europe really have to do some traveling and broaden your horizons; leave the sheep folds behind and come into the 21st or at least the 20th century.

My goodness, who knew 50 years behind the Iron Curtain would still have such an effect.

Who also knew people could write so many songs about sheep?

See what I mean? Be careful about starting things that may not come to a good end.

Diurpaneus
16-08-16, 08:47
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Diurpaneus
16-08-16, 10:18
Generalizing much? Stereotyping much? Passive aggressive much?

Your comments are still obviously insulting.

Be careful of whom you insult.

These kinds of comments sound like something my grandfather would have said, and I don't want to tell you when he was born, or like something out of some bad Victorian novel. Even my father didn't talk like this, much less my husband or my son. None of them were or are threatened by, or feel emasculated by strong women, or fear competing with them.

You people from the Balkans and eastern Europe really have to do some traveling and broaden your horizons; leave the sheep folds behind and come into the 21st or at least the 20th century.

My goodness, who knew 50 years behind the Iron Curtain would still have such an effect.

Who also knew people could write so many songs about sheep?

See what I mean? Be careful about starting things that may not come to a good end.

There are certain risks when you conversate online 24/7.
Don't get me wrong,I have nothing against the youngsters,but there
has to be a differentiation.
Another thing that I really don't understand is ,why do you insist so much that I should post further
on Eupedia?

Virtue
16-08-16, 10:38
Conversate is not a word.

Virtue
16-08-16, 10:43
Generalizing much? Stereotyping much? Passive aggressive much?

Your comments are still obviously insulting.

Be careful of whom you insult.

These kinds of comments sound like something my grandfather would have said, and I don't want to tell you when he was born, or like something out of some bad Victorian novel. Even my father didn't talk like this, much less my husband or my son. None of them were or are threatened by, or feel emasculated by strong women, or fear competing with them.

You people from the Balkans and eastern Europe really have to do some traveling and broaden your horizons; leave the sheep folds behind and come into the 21st or at least the 20th century.

My goodness, who knew 50 years behind the Iron Curtain would still have such an effect.

Who also knew people could write so many songs about sheep?

See what I mean? Be careful about starting things that may not come to a good end.As some people have said here before, the Balkans and Eastern Europe are regions that are not necessarily safe to travel to, because of things such as nationalism. Romanians and Hungarians hate each other. I know this, because I have had both of them as friends. Romanians tell me of stories as children where they've had Hungarians beat them up. It probably still happens even as adults. Serbs hate Hungarians, and Hungarians like Albanians. It's a whole warzone out there. Romania though, is a very nice country, despite all this.

Diurpaneus
16-08-16, 10:47
The word exists in the dictionaries,LeBrok,it is the result of a
regressive derivation from conversation.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conversate

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/conversate

Virtue
16-08-16, 10:54
The word exists in the dictionaries,LeBrok,it is the result of a
regressive derivation from conversation.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conversate

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/conversateThat's a recent addition then. Sorry. I know English is not your first tongue.

Anyway, to answer Angela ... It's good that people are waking up from the mayhem that ensues in the Balkans and Eastern Europe. Almost all those people despise each other, even Greeks and Turks etc. so it is very dangerous to venture out there. (that's a warning to anyone, who has never been there.) Always play it safe and do not loiter around. The mainstream media shelters people from the crimes that go on there. The Albanian and Serbian conflicts are just the worst.

Diurpaneus
16-08-16, 11:02
That's a recent addition then. Sorry. I know English is not your first tongue.



Nowadays not even Romanian is my native tongue,but I
believe that I have something to say.

mihaitzateo
24-08-16, 20:24
Diurpaneus, how can you spot the difference from the women from Arges county compared to other women from sub-Carpathians area from Romania?

I live in Bucharest where as you know are people from all Romania and the only way I can tell someone is from Transylvania/Banat or Moldavia is their speaking accent.
If they still have their accent and did not renounced at it.
Not after their look.

As for the folk music you put here, is nice.
NOTE:
dear mister admins can Romanian also be added at native languages?
When you complete the details of your profile.

Diurpaneus
02-09-16, 14:18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zljkynjc-MA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iele

Diurpaneus
02-09-16, 14:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHW3FgjDlBw

Simply a matter of spirit,the singer is an old demon from the Balkans nicknamed Kempes.

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Diurpaneus
06-09-16, 14:38
Wallachian bagpipe


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpApWIFaNsA

Diurpaneus
06-09-16, 14:41
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2SL1aBIxzg

Diurpaneus
06-09-16, 14:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7_xbeFkrec

Diurpaneus
15-09-16, 19:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mngpujw--A

Diurpaneus
18-09-16, 17:03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_U819_tzoQ

Aromanian song from Korce(Corcea),SE Albania

It sounds to me like the Transylvanian and Moldavian doina.

Diurpaneus
19-09-16, 11:48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dy13sUlfTw

A Greek dance.

Diurpaneus
19-09-16, 11:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUSkVZDtyuQ

Romanian dance called "Batuta"("The Stamped Dance"),note the same way of
getting down on the floor.

Diurpaneus
19-09-16, 12:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NxfK4Qf4yg

Valassko odmeze

"were he was really fascinated by the beauty,rhythm and style of the Vlach dance called odmeze [bătuta]
performed by RudolfLondin and Karol Langer from Vsetin"

http://pressto.amu.edu.pl/index.php/bp/article/viewFile/3900/4045

Diurpaneus
19-09-16, 12:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NxfK4Qf4yg

Valassko odmeze


"were he was really fascinated by the beauty,rhythm and style of the Vlach dance
called odmeze [bătuta] performed by RudolfLondin and Karol Langer from Vsetin"

http://pressto.amu.edu.pl/index.php/bp/article/viewFile/3900/4045

Diurpaneus
19-09-16, 12:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfdcOHE8Y3c

This Albanian dance has a clearer stamping and the air jumps also resemble the NW Carpathian
ones.

LABERIA
19-09-16, 13:06
This Albanian dance has a clearer stamping and the air jumps also resemble the NW Carpathian ones. This dance is a refined variant of the original. This is probably the National Ensemble of Songs and Dances. The original is called Valle Devolliçe, Devolliçe dance, from the region of Devoll. Also is called the dance of the men.Here is the original of 1978 from the Folk Festival of Gjirokastra, because we have this festival dedicated exclusively to the folk music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSCdT9yS3vo Valle Devollice Gjirokaster 1978

LABERIA
19-09-16, 13:21
And this is a dance from the region of Laberia dedicated to Ismail Qemali, forefather of the Albanian Indipendence. They dance and sing at the same time. It`s one of these songs that give strong emotion to every Albanian. The title in english is: Who are you man.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q1v-ac14NE

Vallja e Vranishtit "Cili je ti more burre"

Diurpaneus
19-09-16, 19:15
The "sitting" stampings and the aerial moves from the Romanian dance
are similar to the Albanian/Greek ones,while the standing stampings
are Serbian alike.
I was speaking of common traits,without pointing towards a relation
of identity between the dances.




This is the Serbian dance trojno(also named "The Shepherd's Dance")
from Eastern Serbia.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWKoa4_Wgjo

http://www.socalfolkdance.com/dances/T/Trojno.pdf

Diurpaneus
19-09-16, 19:18
And this is another version of the Romanian dance,from the Republic of Moldova.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OInRhLd6FdQ

EDIT:

If you* are upsetting me, I will kidnap your* girlfriend,call it an old Romanian tradition.


* "You" and "your" are used at plural.

Another Romanian vernacular word is dandur (stranger) inthe Transylvanian dialect, of which no mention has been made so far and whoseAlbanian origin is also proved by István Schütz. This word also provides importantdata concerning the length of the Albanian-Romanian symbiosis and the assumptionthat the Romanians wandered from the Balkan Peninsula to the north in severalwaves, rather than all at once. The meaning of the Albanian base word dhëndër (inthe northern dialect dhânder) is son-in-law. We could ask with good reason: howcould such a great semantic change take place? Here is the way István Schütz argues:We can only understand this semantic transformation if we know the unwritten maritallaws that are still alive in the villages of Albanian uplands. [...] According to these rules,the boy brought his wife to the paternal home, but the girl was taken to her groom’sfather house, irrespective of whether he had won her by marital agreement or simplyrobbed her from her parents. [...] The wedding proposal and the redemption of theblood-revenge sworn for the robbery were arranged by either the fiancé’s father or theappointed mediators. Also, a host of mediators collected the bride and accompanied herto the groom’s house. Once, this was the first time the boy had seen the face of his futurewife. Three days after the wedding, the young wife visited her parents, accompaniedby her friends. However, the husband did not enter his father-in-law’s house.Thus, he remained a stranger in the eye of the girl’s family. The fact that the Albanianword was borrowed in the meaning ‘stranger’ clearly shows that the ancestors of today’sTransylvanian Romanians once lived in the neighbourhood of or mingled withAlbanian highlanders, and also knew their local customs (p. 2

http://www.zeitschrift-fuer-balkanologie.de/index.php/zfb/article/viewFile/15/15

Diurpaneus
20-09-16, 09:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cZcI4etcBk

This is Brâul,"The Belt Dance",there are some" Albano-Greekish" lateral leg stretchings in it
and it all happens according to traditions-upwardly.

LABERIA
20-09-16, 14:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cZcI4etcBk

This is Brâul,"The Belt Dance",there are some" Albano-Greekish" lateral leg stretchings in it
and it all happens according to traditions-upwardly.
Interesting dances.
Excuse me, what do you understand with "Albano-Greekish"?

Diurpaneus
29-09-16, 19:16
Interesting dances.
Excuse me, what do you understand with "Albano-Greekish"?

Common Albanian-Greek features,having the origin in the Byzantine Empire,if not older(Roman,Ancient Greek,Paleo-Balkanic).

Diurpaneus
16-10-16, 19:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn4x6trB0OY

Diurpaneus
16-10-16, 19:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTnlpBmxH9M

Diurpaneus
28-11-16, 20:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D-7SNIkays


This is the song of Babau,a Vlach,Serbia's greatest hajduk:

http://www.laznica.net/ivan-babejic.html


http://www.zakopanoblago.com/index.php/o-hajducima/ivan-babejic.html


https://books.google.ro/books?id=c3ZODQAAQBAJ&pg=PT48&lpg=PT48&dq=serb+vlach+hajduk&source=bl&ots=6ntAMYBShq&sig=CiM9bDjKumEAPgW08otunV9bPUI&hl=ro&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwizuP-5qszQAhWFbxQKHYTNDXwQ6AEIIDAB#v=onepage&q=serb%20vlach%20hajduk&f=false

Vlachiator
16-01-17, 04:37
Din pacate, genetic, nu avem nicio treaba cu albanezii. Deci, teoria pica. ;)

Diurpaneus
10-05-17, 15:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBrLPTP1cIM

Diurpaneus
10-05-17, 15:29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clWS9VyI1BU

Diurpaneus
21-05-17, 21:39
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQCzteRjIX8Slogan,' Mai mult ca NOI nu poate nimeni',Better than US nobody can.

Diurpaneus
22-05-17, 06:55
The best Romanian football players came from Western Wallachia,from FC Arges or Universitatea Craiova,the last of them ,Adrian Mutu and Cristian Chivu,these regions produce players with extermely high technique,creativity,inventivity,flair,sponaneity , charisma and personality.Romania\s top player was Nicolae Dobrin,from Arges.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aY4xu7HD4

Diurpaneus
22-05-17, 07:05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ugFma4Kn8opay attention to that from 2:23

Diurpaneus
22-05-17, 07:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpjd2gHsaPk

Diurpaneus
22-05-17, 08:01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Neh0CKwtec4