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New Englander
21-12-16, 02:11
What exactly does my Haplogroup mean in regards to its origin? Im not sure if 23andme specified it beyond U152, but WEGENES has me at R1b1a1a2a1a2b

Is this a common Haplogroup for Italy?

South-Italy around Naples and Salerno?

Could I be descended from Celtic Slaves?

Can I get a map for my specific markers upstream as far as possible?

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Angela
21-12-16, 03:25
This is Maciamo's map of U-152.

http://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-R1b-S28.gif

There is also this:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/El0JFpB2mKTOflFY0tX9g_avmVg96uYTDegcDg25hGM=w500-h133-no

You can read Maciamo's text here:

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml

Some recent threads:

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/26702-New-map-of-R1b-S28-(U152)/page7?highlight=subclades+U152+Italy

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/25962-R1b-U152-S28-more-Gaulish-or-Roman/page9?p=495001&highlight=subclades%20U152%20Italy#post495001

You can also take a look at these:
http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?7892-Distribution-map-of-Y-DNA-R-L2-in-Italy

http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?7886-Distribution-map-of-Y-DNA-R-Z36-in-Italy

http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?919-Z56-(U152-gt-Z56)-an-early-branch-of-U152

New Englander
21-12-16, 18:23
Ya, I have seen all this before. I just did not know if there is a way to get more specific than U152, and determine if Im L2+ or not. Along with anything else way up stream, and some maps of all the R1b in Italy. I never can find any good R1b-U152 sub clad maps for Southern Italy.

Im taking about V49, v50, v142, ect.

Pax Augusta
21-12-16, 19:05
What exactly does my Haplogroup mean in regards to its origin? Im not sure if 23andme specified it beyond U152, but WEGENES has me at R1b1a1a2a1a2b

Is this a common Haplogroup for Italy?

It depends which haplogroup you're in but it's one of the most common Haplogroup in Italy.



Could I be descended from Celtic Slaves?

Celtic Slaves? In Italy most of the U152 is likely Italic or Gaulish. Celts settled in most of North Italy and at some extent in other parts of Italy. Italics and Proto-Italics were anywere.

These maps were made by Anthrogenica's user Passa.

R1b-U152 and its subclades Z56, Z36, L2. Unfortunately, no map of Z192.

Z56 is considered Italic, Z36 Gaulish and L2 more continental Celtic or Italo-Celtic.


https://s32.postimg.org/as6e4xhcl/R1b_Z56.pnghttps://s31.postimg.org/l9338hgej/R1b_Z36.pnghttps://s31.postimg.org/ianqvmzqj/R1b_L2.png

Maciamo's phylogenetic tree of R1b-U152.

http://cache.eupedia.com/images/design/R1b-S28-tree.png[/QUOTE]

See discussione here

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/25962-R1b-U152-S28-more-Gaulish-or-Roman/page8?p=494947&viewfull=1#post494947