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Seanp
04-01-17, 19:03
Using red for Europeans (politically used)
Blue for Near Eastern groups
Black for unclassifiable groups


Based on Gedrosia K9 ASI

Genetic distance from a Gulf Arab:

#


Population (source)
Distance


1

Yemenite_Jew
5.49


2
Saudi
9.49


3
BedouinA

12.25


4
Yemen
15.21


5
Jordanian
22.43


6
Syrian
23.93


7
Lebanese
25.31


8
Iraqi_Jew
26.96


9
Druze
27.01


10

Cypriot
30.89


11

Iranian_Jew
32.42


12
Georgian_Jew
32.71


13
Armenian
36.18


14
Turkish
37.84


15

Maltese
38.52


16

Kurd_N
39.43


17

Azeri
39.53



18

Iranian
40.57



19

Sicilian
41.06



20
Georgian
43.64




Genetic distance from an Armenian:


#


Population (source)
Distance


1

Armenian
3.69


2

Georgian_Jew
5.47



3
Iranian_Jew
7.26


4
Druze
9.02


5

Kurd_N
9.31


6
Iraqi_Jew
9.84


7
Turkish
9.87


8

Georgian
9.89


9

Azeri
10.05


10
Cypriot
10.16


11
Lebanese
11.02


12
Abkhasian
12.14


13
Iranian
12.4


14
Syrian
12.6


15
Jordanian
14.28


16

Adygei
15.15


17

Kumyk
15.57



18
Azeri_Dagestan
15.6


19
Kurd_C
15.68


20

Chechen
17.47




Genetic distance from an Ashkenazi Jew:

#


Population (source)
Distance


1

Sicilian
5.83


2
Maltese
5.9


3
Greek
9.33


4
Albanian
11.37


5
Tuscan
12.21


6

Cypriot
13.17



7

Turkish
13.31


8

Bulgarian
16.96


9

Lebanese

17.32


10
Druze
18.49


11
Syrian
18.82


12
Kumyk
19.44


13

Jordanian
19.52


14

Armenian

19.91


15

Adygei
19.98


16

Georgian_Jew

20.89


17

Azeri
21.18


18
Iraqi_Jew
21.64


19

Chechen

21.79


20

Spanish
22.16




Genetic distance from a Bulgarian:

#


Population (source)
Distance


1

Bulgarian
5.38


2
Albanian
9.95


3
Greek
10.46



4
Tuscan
11.49


5
Croatian
11.79



6
French
13.53


7
Spanish
13.74


8
Hungarian
13.87


9
Sicilian
15.13


10
Maltese
16.85


11
English
17.05


12
Scottish
17.38


13
French_South
18.22


14
Czech
18.59


15
Ukrainian
19.22


16
Norwegian
20.07


17

Tatars
21.43



18

Icelandic
22.19


19

Kumyk
22.62


20
Turkish
23.26




Genetic distance from a Belarussian:

#


Population (source)
Distance


1

Belarusian
3.89


2
Norwegian
3.9


3
Ukrainian
4.24


4
Icelandic
4.52


5
Czech
6.1


6
Scottish
6.37


7
Russian
6.44


8
English
8.37


9
Estonian
8.43


10
Lithuanian
8.74


11
Finnish
9.61


12
Hungarian
10.03


13
RISE_irSca
10.67


14

Karelia
11.11


15
RISE_baBb
12.33


16

Croatian

13.64


17
French
14.24


18
RISE_baSca
15.44


19
RISE_baUne
18.47


20
Tatars
19.67




Genetic distance from an Algerian:

#


Population (source)
Distance


1

Maltese
18.71


2
Sicilian
21.2


3

Jordanian
23.86



4

Greek
24.18


5
Albanian

24.34


6

Tuscan
24.37


7

Lebanese
24.64


8
Syrian
25.02


9
Cypriot
25.09


10
BedouinA

25.63


11
Yemen
26.74


12
Turkish
28.12


13
Druze
28.28


14

Bulgarian
28.81


15

Spanish

29.05


16
Sardinian
30.83


17

Iraqi_Jew
31.78


18
Armenian
33.14


19
Georgian_Jew
33.39


20
Iranian_Jew
34.47




Genetic distance from an Italian (Naples)

#


Population (source)
Distance


1

Maltese
3.75


2
Sicilian
4.27


3
Greek
9.47


4
Albanian
11.61


5

Cypriot
11.74


6

Tuscan
11.76


7

Turkish
14.97


8
Lebanese
17.07



9
Druze
18.1


10

Bulgarian
18.16


11

Syrian
19.13


12
Jordanian
19.46


13
Armenian
20.25


14

Iraqi_Jew
21.5


15
Georgian_Jew
21.51



16

Kumyk
22.06


17

Spanish

22.32



18

Adygei
22.37



19

Azeri
22.96


20
Iranian_Jew
23.15





Genetic distance from a Greek (Chios)

#


Population (source)
Distance


1

Cypriot
8.02


2

Sicilian
8.29


3
Maltese
8.75


4

Turkish
11.47


5

Greek
13.08



6

Lebanese
14.25


7
Druze
14.5


8

Armenian
15.56


9

Albanian
15.75


10

Tuscan
15.9


11

Syrian
16.87


12
Georgian_Jew
17.27


13
Jordanian
17.38


14
Iraqi_Jew
17.76


15
Iranian_Jew
18.72


16

Azeri
19.13


17

Adygei
19.74


18

Kumyk
19.75


19

Georgian
19.82


20

Kurd_N
20.59



Genetic distance from a Portuguese (Madeira)

#


Population (source)
Distance


1

Spanish
6.25


2
Bulgarian
9


3
Albanian
10.58


4
Tuscan
10.76


5
Croatian
11.06


6
French
11.2


7
French_South
11.71


8
Greek
13.09


9
Hungarian
14.28


10
Sicilian
16.47


11
Maltese
16.56


12
English
16.91


13
Scottish
17.7


14
Czech
18.43


15
Ukrainian
20.33


16
Norwegian
20.75


17
Sardinian
21.87


18
Icelandic
22.02


19
Belarusian
24.08


20
RISE_baBb
24.33




Genetic distance from a Finnish Saami:

#


Population (source)
Distance


1
Tatars
12.96


2

Russian
20.12


3
Karelia
20.76


4

Finnish
21.4


5
Scythian_IA
25.58


6
RISE_irAltai
26.89


7

Ukrainian
27.05


8
Belarusian

27.09


9
Estonian
27.37


10
RISE_baMezh
27.46


11

Scottish
28.05


12
Norwegian
28.09


13
RISE_baBb
28.6


14

Czech
28.69


15
Icelandic
28.72


16
Hungarian
28.99


17
RISE_baKarasuk
29.03


18

Lithuanian
29.04


19
English
30.05


20
RISE_irSca
30.19




Iraqi Jewish

#


Population (source)
Distance


1

Druze
4.47


2
Georgian_Jew
5.4


3
Iraqi_Jew
5.61


4
Iranian_Jew
6.35


5
Lebanese
6.4


6
Armenian
6.89


7
Syrian
7.9


8
Cypriot
8.6


9

Jordanian
9.57


10
Turkish
11.6


11
Kurd_N
12.03


12
Azeri
12.5


13
Iranian
14.44


14

Georgian
14.56


15

Abkhasian
16.6


16

Kurd_C
19.26


17

Adygei
19.27



18

Kumyk
19.31


19
Azeri_Dagestan
19.58


20
BedouinA
19.84




Lebanese:

#


Population (source)
Distance


1

Druze
3.21


2
Lebanese
3.98


3
Cypriot
5.21


4

Iraqi_Jew
6.86


5
Syrian
7.19


6
Jordanian
7.44


7
Georgian_Jew
10.14


8
Iranian_Jew
10.74


9
Armenian
11.37


10
Turkish
14.09


11
BedouinA
16.89


12
Kurd_N
17.27


13

Azeri
17.39


14

Maltese
18.25


15

Georgian
18.95


16

Sicilian
19.25


17

Iranian
19.79


18

Abkhasian
21.18



19

Yemen
22.44


20
Kumyk
22.72




Swedish:

#


Population (source)
Distance


1

Norwegian
1.8


2
Czech
2.12


3
Icelandic
2.74


4
Scottish
2.96


5
Ukrainian
3.44


6
English
4.55


7
Belarusian
5.18


8
Hungarian
6.8


9
Croatian
10.1


10
Russian
10.16


11
French
10.27


12
Lithuanian
10.56


13
Estonian
11.01


14
RISE_irSca
12.14


15
RISE_baBb
12.34


16

Finnish
12.81


17
Karelia
14.32


18
French_South
15.54


19
RISE_baSca
15.83


20

Spanish
18.39




Turkish:

#


Population (source)
Distance


1

Turkish
7.93


2

Sicilian
11.35


3
Maltese
12.62


4

Greek
12.91


5
Kumyk
13.64


6

Adygei
14.15


7

Albanian
15.19


8

Cypriot
15.75


9
Azeri
16.07


10

Chechen
16.36


11
Tuscan
16.38


12

Armenian
17.8


13

Azeri_Dagestan
18.61


14

Bulgarian
18.72


15

Lebanese
18.81


16
Georgian_Jew
19.26


17

Georgian
19.38


18
Lezgin
19.52


19

Kurd_N
19.54


20
Druze
19.56

New Englander
04-01-17, 22:31
Nice post! Thanks for the Naples sample!

Pax Augusta
05-01-17, 16:28
If these results are based on individuals of which we know nothing, and which are already based on amateur calculators, and not on samples chosen according to scientific criteria, it's pure anthrotardism that only helps to add more confusion to the confusion. Most of those results are at very huge distances.

Seanp
05-01-17, 16:57
Most of those results are at very huge distances.

Huge distances? really

Pax Augusta
05-01-17, 17:11
Huge distances? really

Basically the same distance that exists between genetics and your posts. Most of these etnicities come off because not all the etnicities are covered by amateur calculators.

- Genetic distance from a Swedish:

#
Population (source) Distance
1 Norwegian 1.8

- Genetic distance from a Gulf Arab:

#
Population (source) Distance

19 Sicilian 41.06
20 Georgian 43.64

Seanp
05-01-17, 17:26
Basically the same distance that exists between genetics and your posts. Most of these etnicities come off because not all the etnicities are covered by amateur calculators.

- Genetic distance from a Swedish:

#
Population (source) Distance
1 Norwegian 1.8

- Genetic distance from a Gulf Arab:

#
Population (source) Distance

19 Sicilian 41.06
20 Georgian 43.64


Swedes and Norwegians overlap the only problem this calculator had no Swedish reference populations. I can guarantee Swedes and Norwegians can't be cold apart just by genetic.

Sicilians have significant Levant Neolithic admixture along with other elements which is shared with Saudis. Yes They're marginally closer to Gulf Arabs than North Caucasians, it may be hard to live with but it's genetic not political, cultural discussion.

Angela
05-01-17, 17:35
Swedes and Norwegians overlap the only problem this calculator had no Swedish reference populations. I can guarantee Swedes and Norwegians can't be cold apart just by genetic.

Sicilians have significant Levant Neolithic admixture along with other elements which is shared with Saudis. Yes They're marginally closer to Gulf Arabs than North Caucasians, it may be hard to live with but it's genetic not political, cultural discussion.

What is hard to live with is that 2017 is starting off with an invasion of idiotic anthrofora types who have nothing better to do with their lives than obsess over who has more Near Eastern ancestry.

I have warned you that there will be no tolerance for provocative, Nordicist threads here. This thread is closed, and you have yet another infraction.

If you want to continue to post here, cut it out.