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I was running samples from Montenegro and Bulgaria through GedMatch Harappa World and I couldn't believe my eyes. They were just crazy in what they were showing. Here they are:
First one from LBA Montenegro is not that bad. It is close to hungarian farmer samples with a little of Anatolian Chalcolithic. Baloch is up 5% and Caucasian 10%. It is Bronze Age in Europe and some IE should have shown here by now. Here is Hungarian farmer for comparison:
Then IA Montenegro, for first glance looks like Unetice from Poland, below.
Lots of NE Euro, substantial Baloch and low Caucasian, normal Med for CW. Then I look and see 10% NE Asian!!! Holy smoke, this guy's father or grandfather must have galloped 5 thousand miles to get here. And why did he brought only NE Asian and nothing else from long journey from over there, like Siberian or Beringian?
Mongolians have 62% of NE Asians. Is this from Iron Age Mongolian or Hun invasion? Or it is something wrong with the sample.
Then we have BA Bulgarian, and again NE Asian popped out, at 14% this time! But no Baloch and a lot of Caucasian. Did this invasion of Huns came through Anatolia this time? Crazy.
Then we have Bulgaria IA 850-700 BC, with 43% Siberian admixture and 37% Med. Like a Neolithic Farmer cross with reindeer hunter from Yakutia. Crazy!
Next one Bulgaria IA 800-500 BC, looks more like Hungarian BA, though 2 ky later, but what is this with 6% West African?
The last one Bulgaria IA 450-400 is crazy again. Looks like CA Iberian who lived 3 ky before, below.
But with 9% San, which must have come from South Africa!
I think there is something wrong with these samples. Possibly of very low quality.
M214301 RISE595 | M836655 RISE596 | M777769 V2 | M540478 T2G2 | M212372 P192-1 | M030961 K8 | |||||||||||
Montenegro LBA [?] U5a2 - | Montenegro IA [?] X1'2'3 - | Bulgaria LBA [1500-1100 BC] n/a - | Bulgaria IA [850-700 BC] HV(16311) - | Bulgaria IA [800-500 BC] U3b E-M78>Z1920 | Bulgaria IA [450-400 BC] n/a - | |||||||||||
Population | Population | Population | Population | Population | Population | |||||||||||
S-Indian | - | S-Indian | - | S-Indian | - | S-Indian | - | S-Indian | - | S-Indian | - | |||||
Baloch | 5.77 | Baloch | 12.42 | Baloch | - | Baloch | 8.15 | Baloch | - | Baloch | - | |||||
Caucasian | 27.43 | Caucasian | - | Caucasian | 18.57 | Caucasian | - | Caucasian | 20.34 | Caucasian | - | |||||
NE-Euro | 16.55 | NE-Euro | 50.11 | NE-Euro | 39.64 | NE-Euro | - | NE-Euro | 51.53 | NE-Euro | 30.39 | |||||
SE-Asian | - | SE-Asian | - | SE-Asian | - | SE-Asian | - | SE-Asian | - | SE-Asian | - | |||||
Siberian | - | Siberian | - | Siberian | - | Siberian | 43.58 | Siberian | - | Siberian | - | |||||
NE-Asian | - | NE-Asian | 10.75 | NE-Asian | 13.9 | NE-Asian | - | NE-Asian | - | NE-Asian | - | |||||
Papuan | - | Papuan | - | Papuan | 2.04 | Papuan | - | Papuan | 1.76 | Papuan | - | |||||
American | - | American | - | American | - | American | - | American | - | American | - | |||||
Beringian | - | Beringian | - | Beringian | - | Beringian | 0.38 | Beringian | - | Beringian | - | |||||
Mediterranean | 48.39 | Mediterranean | 23.39 | Mediterranean | 25.86 | Mediterranean | 37.64 | Mediterranean | 20.5 | Mediterranean | 60.53 | |||||
SW-Asian | 1.87 | SW-Asian | - | SW-Asian | - | SW-Asian | 10.25 | SW-Asian | - | SW-Asian | - | |||||
San | - | San | - | San | - | San | - | San | - | San | 9.09 | |||||
E-African | - | E-African | 3.33 | E-African | - | E-African | - | E-African | - | E-African | - | |||||
Pygmy | - | Pygmy | - | Pygmy | - | Pygmy | - | Pygmy | - | Pygmy | - | |||||
W-African | - | W-African | - | W-African | - | W-African | - | W-African | 5.87 | W-African | - |
First one from LBA Montenegro is not that bad. It is close to hungarian farmer samples with a little of Anatolian Chalcolithic. Baloch is up 5% and Caucasian 10%. It is Bronze Age in Europe and some IE should have shown here by now. Here is Hungarian farmer for comparison:
NE7 Hungary | |
Population | |
S-Indian | - |
Baloch | - |
Caucasian | 19.04 |
NE-Euro | 16.69 |
SE-Asian | - |
Siberian | - |
NE-Asian | - |
Papuan | - |
American | - |
Beringian | - |
Mediterranean | 56.18 |
SW-Asian | 7.96 |
San | - |
E-African | - |
Pygmy | - |
W-African | 0.11 |
Then IA Montenegro, for first glance looks like Unetice from Poland, below.
M453254 RISE154 | 4.06 |
Unetice EBA Poland [1925-1765 BC] K1a4a1 - | |
Population | |
S-Indian | - |
Baloch | 14.46 |
Caucasian | 4.05 |
NE-Euro | 53.71 |
SE-Asian | - |
Siberian | - |
NE-Asian | - |
Papuan | - |
American | 0.96 |
Beringian | - |
Mediterranean | 26.58 |
SW-Asian | - |
San | - |
E-African | 0.2 |
Pygmy | - |
W-African | - |
Lots of NE Euro, substantial Baloch and low Caucasian, normal Med for CW. Then I look and see 10% NE Asian!!! Holy smoke, this guy's father or grandfather must have galloped 5 thousand miles to get here. And why did he brought only NE Asian and nothing else from long journey from over there, like Siberian or Beringian?
Mongolians have 62% of NE Asians. Is this from Iron Age Mongolian or Hun invasion? Or it is something wrong with the sample.
Then we have BA Bulgarian, and again NE Asian popped out, at 14% this time! But no Baloch and a lot of Caucasian. Did this invasion of Huns came through Anatolia this time? Crazy.
Then we have Bulgaria IA 850-700 BC, with 43% Siberian admixture and 37% Med. Like a Neolithic Farmer cross with reindeer hunter from Yakutia. Crazy!
Next one Bulgaria IA 800-500 BC, looks more like Hungarian BA, though 2 ky later, but what is this with 6% West African?
The last one Bulgaria IA 450-400 is crazy again. Looks like CA Iberian who lived 3 ky before, below.
CA Iberia, ATP2, M849224 | |
Population | |
S-Indian | - |
Baloch | - |
Caucasian | 4.19 |
NE-Euro | 24.19 |
SE-Asian | 0.23 |
Siberian | - |
NE-Asian | - |
Papuan | 0.23 |
American | - |
Beringian | - |
Mediterranean | 63.33 |
SW-Asian | 5.14 |
San | - |
E-African | - |
Pygmy | - |
W-African | 2.69 |
But with 9% San, which must have come from South Africa!
I think there is something wrong with these samples. Possibly of very low quality.