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I have recently found this site
http://haplogroup.org/mtdna/rsrs/l123456/l23456/l2346/l346/l34/l3/n/r/r0/hv/h/h95/h95a/
which shows that many H95a come from either Italy or USA ( where did they migrate from ?)
Of the Italians
one is my sister
one surname Calderan is from the Carnian Alps Friuli
and another is from Trentino region
My ftdna match is with a "south Swedish " whose ancestors date to 1645 , but is part of the south western Finnish ftdna project ( Kven people ?)
I do not know where I can retrieve HG ID from
I received another match in ftdna for mtdna H95a from Finnish/swedish ...............surname Ströberg
my matches now are 4 x Italians and 2 x finnish/swedes .................this does not include any from link in post #1
I received another match in ftdna for mtdna H95a from Finnish/swedish ...............surname Ströberg
my matches now are 4 x Italians and 2 x finnish/swedes .................this does not include any from link in post #1
another update, I now have
4 x italians ( Veneto, Friuli, Trento and the Carnian Alps ) and 3 from finland and sweden ...........latest surname Lassen
another update, I now have
4 x italians ( Veneto, Friuli, Trento and the Carnian Alps ) and 3 from finland and sweden ...........latest surname Lassen
as another H95a appears with surname Saloheimo ( I guess finnish ) then I have changed my mind and think that H95a is now swedish/finnish in origin even though H95 has only been found in "lombard lands" of Italy...Pavia, Bergamo and Sondrio
My guess is that either the longobards and or the goths/ostrogoths of the baltic sea brought this marker to Alpine Italy/austria
as another H95a appears with surname Saloheimo ( I guess finnish ) then I have changed my mind and think that H95a is now swedish/finnish in origin even though H95 has only been found in "lombard lands" of Italy...Pavia, Bergamo and Sondrio
My guess is that either the longobards and or the goths/ostrogoths of the baltic sea brought this marker to Alpine Italy/austria
more swedes with H95a
https://s9.postimg.org/i26az947j/h95a_goth.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/jtz9u5nkb/)
another high swedish match arrived today from kivik
so my high level matches are 80% swedes and 20% north-italian ............apart from veneto the other north -italian comes from Tramonti di Sopra
Another mtdna match for me in mtdna ( I only refer to top matches ) First non swede or non italian who matches me
surname Bihrle from Pfalz, Bavaria, Germany
Another H95a match with me
surname - Maria Michelli .....from Cavazzo Carnico in Friuli Italy
Her date is early 1800 .......
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oops
forgot the other
surname Nevia Gei - Augsburg Bavaria .............seems like German born of Italian parents from Belluno province, Valle di Cadore
@Sile
Have you seen the Country Report for H95a? ->
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/mt-dna-haplotree/H
@Sile
Have you seen the Country Report for H95a? ->
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/mt-dna-haplotree/H
thanks ....I got on my ftdna 4 swedes.....the report is short of a few
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Agneta Åkesson
H95a 3/15/2018
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Birgitta Apollonia Lassen
H95a 5/10/2017
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Maarit Ströberg
H95a 3/10/2017
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Mrs. Elli Aino Sofia Luomanaho
Margareta Hokansdotter; b.1630; Ljungby Sweden H95a 3/4/2013
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plus a bavarian
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Plus got contact from Adriano ( the furlano who you know ) whose ancestor is also H95a ........had many chit-chats while I was on beach holidays
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currently checking on these people for that marker instead of Goth or lombard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osi_(tribe)
I have just received another H95a match via ftdna
surname Bergstrand from Malmo Sweden
it would seem that H95a is more Swedish than alpine Italy or Austria
I have just received another H95a match via ftdna
surname Bergstrand from Malmo Sweden
it would seem that H95a is more Swedish than alpine Italy or Austria
Received a note from Bergstrand , origin of this person is from Bolzano, South Tyrol in Italy
I still think this markers origins is Swedish , either Ostrogoth or Longobard
The person whose is Bergstrand, has maternal surnames which are more Tyrolese than Italian or swedish
The following surnames have H95a mtdna , all living between Fonzaso, Bolzano, Innsbruck and Worgl ...............2 families ..............hard to keep track , when women accept the husbands surname
Pfannhauser
Keiblinger
Schweiger
Zochling
Gei
Micheli
Herta joanna Holler , born Bolzano is another H95a.......circa 1920ish
I ran the snptracker for h95a mtdna and it states/shows .....east austria
Then used for fathers T2b17.....it shows central germany rhine river area.....
Then on my grandfather mtdna T1a1e and it shows south sweden
my mtdna
https://i.postimg.cc/xdc4jBht/path-of-h95a.png (https://postimages.org/)
my mtdna
https://i.postimg.cc/xdc4jBht/path-of-h95a.png (https://postimages.org/)
Like a lot of others I was thinking in a northern origine (at Chalco ages or around), carried to Italy and South Germany by Germanics tribes; but this map seems saying another story. What is this map based on?
Like a lot of others I was thinking in a northern origine (at Chalco ages or around), carried to Italy and South Germany by Germanics tribes; but this map seems saying another story. What is this map based on?
Data is from ftdna analysis
http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracker.html
change symbol to female one to run your mtdna
The person does answer your queries
Spoke yesterday to the owner of my closest match for mtdna H95a
surname of the oldest in their line is Monte from Ragaogna Friuli circa 1820
my oldest is 1710 from Maser Veneto
other italian is surname Holler from Bolzano
then there is a Bavarian
and also 4 x swedes
some H95a which is related to my line
Maria Joanna Holler b.1905 Bolzano
Francesca Gruber b.1874 in Bolzano
Anna Griessler 1855 from Bolzano
Barbara Mayr 1740 from Emms
looks like its a pure alpine mtdna ............with 3 swedes and 1 swede was from bolzano and married a swede in 1920
[QUOTE=torzio;593100]I spoke to my swedish-Bolzano match ....................her line is the line from Bolzano.........see below at the links
http://trentinogenealogy.com/
and this, but I cannot read german/austrian
https://apps.tirol.gv.at/bildarchiv/#1576514145655_0
H95a match with myself
Carol Dimpfl
mother is Louise Weiner 1905-1989
her mother is Alvina Wiener (born Boetcher) b.1864- 1924 married Louis Weiner
I have gone back the line to
Maria Katharina Knabenbauer (1767 - 1852) Born in Rinchnach, Regen, Bayern, Deutschland on 18 Sept 1767 to Anton Knabenbauer and Theres Mader.
I have zero on Theres Mader who would carry the H95a line
all these are linked with above and myself are also linked with........Neuman , Steiner and Moser ( neuman is also paternal related ) ................Moser is from Trentino ............great italian cyclist francesco moser was from there https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_Moser
Another match for me ( 3rd to 6th cousin ) 2 shared segments , also shared with my sister
via surname Burkhardt
to
Atilana Vettorazzi
from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levico_Terme
Trentino
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same distant and match as my confirmed grandmother sister Maternal side with the Vendrasco family from Oné 31010 Province of Treviso
and same again with the Mara von Escher match from Trentino
all are linked
Another mtdna match
Steiner family from Barbian South Tyrol
oldest I was told
Anna Steiner b.1781
father Michael
mother Maria Gagriller also from barbian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbian
Another match for me ...........this time in
Zufikon
Aargau, 5620 Switzerland
Justina Eichholzer circa 1900
Another H95a match for myself and my sister
surname = Chrzan
from......Visby Gotland, Sweden
All other swedes I have ( 4 of them ) are from Scania Sweden
Swedish Maiden names are impossible to track...every surname is different for the women following daughter to mother to grandmother etc
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