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selectivememri
06-02-17, 00:54
Hello all, I've used some of the mapping calculators posted on here recently and was hoping people had recs for similar analyzing programs? I've used dna.land and wegene, i just checked out ftdna and apparently they dont accept the current ancestry format, so what else is there? I've already exhausted gedmatch.

also, just wanting some professional opinions but, what do i make of my wildly varying ancestry/dnaland/wegene results?

Ancestry:
Italy/Greece: 52%
Eastern Europe: 38%
European Jewish: 2%
Ireland: 2%
Finland/Northwest Russia: 1%
Europe West: 1%
Scandinavia: <1%
Caucasus: 4%

DNA.Land:














West Eurasian 100%
Mediterranean Islander 36%


Northwest European 24%


North Slavic 20%


South/Central European 19%


Ambiguous 1.1%




aaaand Wegene

Europ







90.01%European

58.18%Hungarian
23.96%French
7.11%Sardinian
0.75%Ashkenazi
0.01%Others







8.83%Middle Eastern

4.73%Egyptian
2.29%Saudi
1.80%Iranian
0.00%Others


South Asian

0.89%Sindhi
0%Others


Others
1. 0.26%Others






So what is the truth?

DNZ
06-02-17, 18:17
Hi,I want to share some of my results with you.I can't find so much Bulgarian and Macedonian results.Maybe,I can help you for your comparisons.My thought,You look a like some of Hungarian,Bulgarian and Bosnian girls too.But same time,You have a native Balkan mixture!That's so normal.Because,Your ancestry are from there.

But,other way!You haven't got so much Caucasian components for an Ancestry and DnaLand.They consider You Mediterranean Islander or Italy-Greece.Actually,Most of them have more Caucasian components than me.

FTDNA My Origins

Eastern Europe:%34
Southern Europe:%21
Finland and Northern Siberia:%3
Asia Minor:%38
East Asian:%3

DnaLAND

West Eurasian 100%
South European 51% Balkan 44%
South/Central European 6.1%
North Slavic 25%
Central Indoeuropean 14%
Central Asian 6% Kalash 2.5%
Mid-Turkic 2.2%
Indo-Iranian 1.3%
Southwestern European 2.1%
Ambiguous 2.1%

selectivememri
06-02-17, 21:40
your dnaland results seem so much more fine tuned than mine! it's interesting to see neighbouring results! what surprised me most is that both dnaland and wegene have a Balkan category and yet that didn't show up at all in my results! to my knowledge even my great grandparents are all Macedonian, and they were all shepherds or farmers so I can't see myself having jetsetting ancestors that came from places like Crete, France, or even the UK recently enough for me to have such high percentages, like some of my results suggest!

Dibran
06-02-17, 22:55
your dnaland results seem so much more fine tuned than mine! it's interesting to see neighbouring results! what surprised me most is that both dnaland and wegene have a Balkan category and yet that didn't show up at all in my results! to my knowledge even my great grandparents are all Macedonian, and they were all shepherds or farmers so I can't see myself having jetsetting ancestors that came from places like Crete, France, or even the UK recently enough for me to have such high percentages, like some of my results suggest!

Strangely mine just say Balkan on wegene. 99.6 percent balkan.

DNA.land tells me I'm 95 percent Balkan and 5 percent Sardinian.

23 and me says I'm 94 percent balkan. 3 percent broadly Southern European. .9 percent Italian. .03 Irish and British. .08 middle eastern and .03 Japanese.

I'm doing a test with LivingDNA which tests 20 thousand SNPs on paternal line(like 17000 more than 23andme. Also some 60k more autosomal SNPs.

That one should be more accurate. Though Balkan is not much more detailed for them. It's a little more defined into east and west Balkan. But as more data is available it gets adjusted.

selectivememri
06-02-17, 23:04
Dibran, thats wild because your gedmatch results that i've seen here look so much more admixed! Whatever differences there are between macedonians and albanians, most tests must have their balkan category more calibrated towards an albanian population maybe? Because again going back to our gedmatch results, I feel like you and I have pretty similar breakdowns if i remember correctly

Dibran
06-02-17, 23:13
Dibran, thats wild because your gedmatch results that i've seen here look so much more admixed! Whatever differences there are between macedonians and albanians, most tests must have their balkan category more calibrated towards an albanian population maybe? Because again going back to our gedmatch results, I feel like you and I have pretty similar breakdowns if i remember correctly


They were somewhat close if I remember. But Macedonian was always between 10 and 15 for me with regards to distance. We were close on the Bulgarians and Romanian(which could also be Aromani/Vlach).


On the old 23andme it stated the countries I am most alike with genome. Greek came before Albanian, and then Romanian, Montenegrin and Bulgarian. Which all tend to show up next to each other in some order or other between 1 to 6. Sometimes I came closer to Tuscans and Greeks than Albanians.

I calculated my EEF/WHG/ANE.

My results were:

EEF: 78.4
WHG: 12.9
ANE: 8.7

Using the graphs on here, my EEF is in the range Albania. My WHG is in the range of Macedonia and Bulgaria. And my ANE is in the range of Greeks.

These are all roughly what results plot me as. And Me and my father seem to plot closer to northern Greeks and southern Albanians. Interesting considering we are from the northern Ghegs.

DNZ
06-02-17, 23:44
I saw,some Greek scores were %100 Balkan.Balkans=Bulgaria,Albania and Greece for a DnaLand.Mediterranean Islander=Levantine+Ashkenazi.The other components like a Northwest European=Probably Germanic.Most of Ancient Celts are scoring some Kalash mixture.Your mixture seem like a Germanic-Slavic mix components.Similar to the Central Europeans and Some Balkanians.Croatians,Hungarians etc.Most of our ancestors were shepherds and farmers.Hungarians(Magyars,Cumans)too.

DNZ
07-02-17, 00:10
We are talking about just a dna company results and their specific classifications.You are right for your doubts.

DNZ
07-02-17, 02:14
North Slavic=Eastern Europe+South Baltic?─░s this so easy?

Central Indoeuropean=Caucasian-Baloch,Kalash,Indoiranian.If You have a Levantine admixtures.Caucasian+Levantine.They classify you Mediterranean Islander?

Northwestern European=Irish,British,Germano-Celts,Germanics and Germanic-Slavic mixtured Central Europe.North Atlantic+North Sea.I saw in my Eurogenes K36 results.I haven't got a North Sea mixture.Because of This,Probably They Classify me directly "Balkan".?

Balkan=East Med+West Med+Near East+Atlantic Possible?

Southwestern Europe=Basque,Iberian North Africa,West Med?

Ambigious=East Asia,Siberia for me

South Central European=This is special for Central ─░talians.I will find it.:)





Population



Amerindian
-


Arabian
1.78


Armenian
3.21


Basque
-


Central_African
-


Central_Euro
1.64


East_African
-


East_Asian
-


East_Balkan
5.87


East_Central_Asian
-


East_Central_Euro
6.79


East_Med
7.21


Eastern_Euro
8.86


Fennoscandian
3.98


French
4.08


Iberian
7.61


Indo-Chinese
-


Italian
13.69


Malayan
-


Near_Eastern
8.87


North_African
-


North_Atlantic
7.03


North_Caucasian
9.60


North_Sea
-


Northeast_African
-


Oceanian
-


Omotic
-


Pygmy
-


Siberian
2.20


South_Asian
-


South_Central_Asian
1.45


South_Chinese
-


Volga-Ural
3.76


West_African
-


West_Caucasian
1.65


West_Med
0.72







Mdlp K23b results Said,You are %4 North African.French=North African?

What is the classifications?What is their analysis methods?Maybe,I am talking nonsense.But,It is good to think.I am just asking.I don't know nothing about their methods.

selectivememri
07-02-17, 03:02
It's true, I havent delved that deep into their classification methods. It's just interesting to see people from neighbouring countries show balkan ancestry in their results. I'm only able to date my macedonian ancestry back to my great grandparents, but i'm just surprised that out of all 8 of my great grandparents, born in villages/cities that are still within the countries current borders, not one shows any balkan ancestry when thats an category? When I meant my family were all shepherds I just meant, the villages where my family came from are fairly remote settlements, very rural, and based on the age of the churches (and mosques) have been there for at least a 1000 years. my point being, these weren't nomads, the roots, on my mother's side at least (my dad is the wildcard since he's from Bitola) people didnt get out and go elsewhere very often. i guess thats why estimates of being at least 1/3 north western european comes as a surprise to me! i cudno mije nic ne sum balkanski!

Or I might be misunderstanding you DNZ, are you saying that my results are just in their own rearranged way telling me that I am from the balkans, and theres just some kind of shift based on each calculator?

I go back and forth between thinking they all might be to some degree, right, or that they are just a cool party trick that at best maybe gets it almost right.

DNZ
07-02-17, 18:44
Classification methods can give us correct results,too.But,This programs have their operation modes.Postavete se na moe myasto!Balkanski?E ili Bulgarski Turtsi?However,Dibran talking about the another truth.We had Aromanian(Vlach) communities.They have a big effect for this results,too.But,Your mixture looking different.I will search more Balkan results and I will share.

selectivememri
07-02-17, 19:32
za mene da bidi balkanski ili bulgarski-turtsi? Mnogu blizo sum do bugarski I rumonci lujdji, mozi sum vlach!

DNZ
07-02-17, 23:10
Eurogenes K13


Bulgarian

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.45
2 North_Atlantic 23.7
3 West_Med 18.17
4 East_Med 15.27
5 West_Asian 13.17
6 Red_Sea 3.07
7 Siberian 1.48
8 Oceanian 0.67

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.46
2 Bulgarian 4.95
3 Serbian 5.64
4 Moldavian 10.2
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.38
6 Hungarian 13.08
7 Croatian 13.31
8 Austrian 15.42
9 North_Italian 16.22
10 Tuscan 16.7
11 East_German 17.29
12 Italian_Abruzzo 17.8
13 Central_Greek 18.75
14 West_German 19.14
15 French 19.46
16 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.55
17 West_Sicilian 19.68
18 East_Sicilian 20.11
19 South_Polish 20.49
20 South_Dutch 20.6

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64% Moldavian + 36% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.45
2 95.3% Romanian + 4.7% Kabardin @ 3.03
3 96% Romanian + 4% Ossetian @ 3.07
4 52.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 47.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.08
5 95.7% Romanian + 4.3% Balkar @ 3.08
6 96% Romanian + 4% North_Ossetian @ 3.08
7 95.8% Romanian + 4.2% Chechen @ 3.12
8 95.3% Romanian + 4.7% Nogay @ 3.12
9 70.2% Moldavian + 29.8% South_Italian @ 3.14
10 65.6% Moldavian + 34.4% Central_Greek @ 3.15
11 96.2% Romanian + 3.8% Adygei @ 3.15
12 96.3% Romanian + 3.7% Tabassaran @ 3.19
13 96.5% Romanian + 3.5% Lezgin @ 3.22
14 97.7% Romanian + 2.3% Balochi @ 3.22
15 97.1% Romanian + 2.9% Georgian @ 3.23
16 97.8% Romanian + 2.2% Brahui @ 3.23
17 96.3% Romanian + 3.7% Kumyk @ 3.24
18 96.7% Romanian + 3.3% Tadjik @ 3.24
19 97.4% Romanian + 2.6% Abhkasian @ 3.24
20 90.1% Serbian + 9.9% Georgian @ 3.24

Bulgarian Turk(Me)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24
2 East_Med 20.15
3 North_Atlantic 17.96
4 West_Asian 15.85
5 West_Med 13.09
6 Siberian 4.66
7 Red_Sea 2.49
8 Northeast_African 1.29
9 South_Asian 0.51

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 7.95
2 Romanian 8.98
3 Serbian 11.92
4 Greek_Thessaly 12.29
5 Moldavian 14.8
6 Central_Greek 17.16
7 Italian_Abruzzo 17.55
8 Croatian 18.28
9 East_Sicilian 18.44
10 Hungarian 18.59
11 Ashkenazi 19.52
12 Tuscan 19.66
13 West_Sicilian 19.86
14 South_Italian 21.52
15 North_Italian 21.68
16 Tatar 22.07
17 Austrian 22.13
18 Ukrainian_Lviv 23.47
19 East_German 23.86
20 South_Polish 24.6

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.2% Kargopol_Russian + 49.8% Cyprian @ 4.65
2 70.4% Moldavian + 29.6% Assyrian @ 4.66
3 71.2% Moldavian + 28.8% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.72
4 71.5% Moldavian + 28.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.73
5 79.8% Bulgarian + 20.2% Nogay @ 4.81
6 64% Moldavian + 36% Turkish @ 4.82
7 64.1% Central_Greek + 35.9% Erzya @ 4.83
8 58.5% Croatian + 41.5% Turkish @ 4.88
9 53.4% Cyprian + 46.6% East_Finnish @ 4.89
10 53% Cyprian + 47% Finnish @ 4.91
11 83.4% Bulgarian + 16.6% Afghan_Turkmen @ 4.92
12 58.4% South_Italian + 41.6% Erzya @ 4.95
13 50.5% Ukrainian + 49.5% Turkish @ 5.01
14 65.5% Croatian + 34.5% Assyrian @ 5.06
15 70.5% Moldavian + 29.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.08
16 71.3% Moldavian + 28.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 5.14
17 68.6% Moldavian + 31.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.15
18 65.2% Central_Greek + 34.8% Chuvash @ 5.16
19 50.8% South_Polish + 49.2% Turkish @ 5.17
20 82.5% Bulgarian + 17.5% Turkmen @ 5.21

DNZ
07-02-17, 23:41
Another Bulgarian.She is a little bit more Northern Type for an average.You can see in the results %84 Bulgarian %16 Ukrainian.Oh Jewish genes in us.

Admix Results (sorted):



#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
27.53


2
West_Med
21.19


3
North_Atlantic
21.13


4
East_Med
15.97


5
West_Asian
11.07


6
Red_Sea
2.5


7
Oceanian
0.57


8
South_Asian
0.05



Single Population Sharing:



#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Bulgarian
5.73


2
Romanian
5.82


3
Serbian
7.32


4
Moldavian
9.85


5
Croatian
12.76


6
Greek_Thessaly
13.06


7
Hungarian
14.36


8
Austrian
17.05


9
North_Italian
17.73


10
Tuscan
18.29


11
East_German
18.42


12
Ukrainian_Lviv
18.95


13
Central_Greek
19.83


14
Italian_Abruzzo
19.84


15
South_Polish
20.18


16
Ukrainian
20.2


17
West_Sicilian
20.96


18
East_Sicilian
21.15


19
West_German
21.81


20
French
21.91



Mixed Mode Population Sharing:



#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

58.1%
Moldavian
+
41.9%
Greek_Thessaly
@
4.19


2

68.6%
Moldavian
+
31.4%
Central_Greek
@
4.34


3

70.4%
Bulgarian
+
29.6%
Moldavian
@
4.36


4

50.7%
Croatian
+
49.3%
Greek_Thessaly
@
4.43


5

73%
Moldavian
+
27%
South_Italian
@
4.43


6

61.8%
Croatian
+
38.2%
Central_Greek
@
4.44


7

77%
Bulgarian
+
23%
Croatian
@
4.47


8

60%
Greek_Thessaly
+
40%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
4.51


9

70.2%
Moldavian
+
29.8%
East_Sicilian
@
4.52


10

84%
Bulgarian
+
16%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
4.52


11

61.6%
Greek_Thessaly
+
38.4%
Ukrainian
@
4.53


12

50.5%
Central_Greek
+
49.5%
Ukrainian
@
4.56


13

85.1%
Bulgarian
+
14.9%
Ukrainian
@
4.57


14

87.4%
Bulgarian
+
12.6%
Polish
@
4.67


15

51.2%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
48.8%
Central_Greek
@
4.69


16

66.7%
Croatian
+
33.3%
South_Italian
@
4.69


17

88.4%
Bulgarian
+
11.6%
Russian_Smolensk
@
4.7


18

77.1%
Moldavian
+
22.9%
Algerian_Jewish
@
4.71


19

90.3%
Bulgarian
+
9.7%
Lithuanian
@
4.71


20

88.7%
Bulgarian
+
11.3%
Estonian_Polish
@
4.72




Bulgarian Turk

Admix Results (sorted):



#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
21.72


2
East_Med
20.99


3
North_Atlantic
16.54


4
West_Asian
16.37


5
West_Med
14.22


6
Siberian
3.98


7
East_Asian
3.28


8
Red_Sea
2.13


9
Amerindian
0.32


10
South_Asian
0.25


11
Oceanian
0.18


12
Northeast_African
0.01



Single Population Sharing:



#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Bulgarian
8.53


2
Romanian
10.22


3
Greek_Thessaly
10.95


4
Serbian
13.67


5
Central_Greek
15.08


6
Italian_Abruzzo
15.85


7
East_Sicilian
16.55


8
Moldavian
16.98


9
Ashkenazi
17.73


10
West_Sicilian
18.16


11
Tuscan
18.68


12
South_Italian
19.42


13
Croatian
20.55


14
Hungarian
20.83


15
North_Italian
21.19


16
Turkish
23.05


17
Nogay
23.92


18
Tatar
23.96


19
Austrian
24.1


20
Sephardic_Jewish
24.33



Mixed Mode Population Sharing:



#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

75.5%
Bulgarian
+
24.5%
Nogay
@
3.7


2

77.8%
Bulgarian
+
22.2%
Turkmen
@
3.85


3

81%
Bulgarian
+
19%
Afghan_Turkmen
@
4.62


4

82.3%
Bulgarian
+
17.7%
Uzbeki
@
4.68


5

58%
Moldavian
+
42%
Turkish
@
4.73


6

62.1%
Central_Greek
+
37.9%
Tatar
@
4.76


7

84.7%
Bulgarian
+
15.3%
Hazara
@
4.82


8

83.4%
Bulgarian
+
16.6%
Aghan_Hazara
@
4.85


9

69.6%
Central_Greek
+
30.4%
Chuvash
@
4.9


10

53%
Croatian
+
47%
Turkish
@
4.92


11

79%
Bulgarian
+
21%
Azeri
@
4.96


12

78.6%
Bulgarian
+
21.4%
Kumyk
@
4.99


13

82.1%
Bulgarian
+
17.9%
Afghan_Tadjik
@
4.99


14

65.8%
Moldavian
+
34.2%
Assyrian
@
5


15

80.6%
Bulgarian
+
19.4%
Balkar
@
5.05


16

76.8%
Bulgarian
+
23.2%
Turkish
@
5.18


17

54.3%
Turkish
+
45.7%
Ukrainian
@
5.19


18

80.5%
Bulgarian
+
19.5%
Kabardin
@
5.21


19

84.4%
Bulgarian
+
15.6%
Uygur
@
5.21


20

75%
Romanian
+
25%
Turkmen
@
5.24

DNZ
08-02-17, 00:05
Two Greek,One Bulgarian
Admix Results (sorted):



#
Population
Percent


1
East_Med
28.48


2
North_Atlantic
20.18


3
West_Med
18.87


4
West_Asian
15.11


5
Baltic
11.88


6
Red_Sea
2.53


7
South_Asian
1.89


8
Amerindian
0.7


9
East_Asian
0.21


10
Oceanian
0.15



Single Population Sharing:



#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Italian_Abruzzo
4.65


2
Central_Greek
4.92


3
Greek_Thessaly
5.95


4
East_Sicilian
6.38


5
West_Sicilian
7.13


6
South_Italian
8.09


7
Ashkenazi
8.9


8
Tuscan
10.27


9
Bulgarian
13.44


10
Sephardic_Jewish
13.83


11
Italian_Jewish
14.01


12
Algerian_Jewish
14.74


13
Romanian
15.26


14
North_Italian
15.74


15
Tunisian_Jewish
17.94


16
Libyan_Jewish
18.6


17
Serbian
19.45


18
Cyprian
19.75


19
Turkish
20.63


20
Lebanese_Muslim
22.3



Mixed Mode Population Sharing:



#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

90.9%
Central_Greek
+
9.1%
Danish
@
3.17


2

90.5%
Central_Greek
+
9.5%
North_German
@
3.2


3

78.5%
South_Italian
+
21.5%
Hungarian
@
3.22


4

66.8%
South_Italian
+
33.2%
Romanian
@
3.23


5

91.5%
Central_Greek
+
8.5%
Norwegian
@
3.25


6

91.2%
Central_Greek
+
8.8%
North_Dutch
@
3.28


7

91.6%
Central_Greek
+
8.4%
Swedish
@
3.29


8

59.7%
Cyprian
+
40.3%
West_German
@
3.3


9

82.8%
South_Italian
+
17.2%
South_Polish
@
3.3


10

88.8%
Central_Greek
+
11.2%
West_German
@
3.31


11

90.8%
Central_Greek
+
9.2%
Southeast_English
@
3.31


12

91.3%
Central_Greek
+
8.7%
Orcadian
@
3.33


13

60.3%
Italian_Abruzzo
+
39.7%
Greek_Thessaly
@
3.34


14

91.6%
Central_Greek
+
8.4%
West_Scottish
@
3.35


15

91.5%
Central_Greek
+
8.5%
Irish
@
3.35


16

84.1%
South_Italian
+
15.9%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
3.38


17

92%
Central_Greek
+
8%
North_Swedish
@
3.39


18

72.3%
South_Italian
+
27.7%
Serbian
@
3.39


19

63.9%
South_Italian
+
36.1%
Bulgarian
@
3.41


20

89.6%
Central_Greek
+
10.4%
South_Dutch
@
3.43





Admix Results (sorted):



#
Population
Percent


1
East_Med
27.74


2
North_Atlantic
20.54


3
West_Med
19.75


4
West_Asian
14.28


5
Baltic
10.91


6
Red_Sea
4.95


7
South_Asian
0.8


8
Amerindian
0.46


9
Oceanian
0.43


10
Northeast_African
0.14



Single Population Sharing:



#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Italian_Abruzzo
2.73


2
Central_Greek
3.98


3
East_Sicilian
4.95


4
West_Sicilian
5.29


5
Greek_Thessaly
5.91


6
South_Italian
7.15


7
Ashkenazi
8.53


8
Tuscan
8.8


9
Sephardic_Jewish
12.73


10
Italian_Jewish
13.13


11
Algerian_Jewish
13.78


12
Bulgarian
13.96


13
North_Italian
14.73


14
Romanian
15.64


15
Tunisian_Jewish
16.97


16
Libyan_Jewish
17.58


17
Cyprian
19.6


18
Serbian
19.69


19
Turkish
21.23


20
Lebanese_Muslim
22.17



Mixed Mode Population Sharing:



#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

70.7%
Italian_Abruzzo
+
29.3%
Greek_Thessaly
@
1.31


2

91.4%
Central_Greek
+
8.6%
West_Scottish
@
1.46


3

90.7%
Central_Greek
+
9.3%
Southeast_English
@
1.49


4

91.1%
Central_Greek
+
8.9%
Danish
@
1.52


5

91.3%
Central_Greek
+
8.7%
Irish
@
1.53


6

91.2%
Central_Greek
+
8.8%
Orcadian
@
1.54


7

91.2%
Central_Greek
+
8.8%
North_Dutch
@
1.56


8

91.1%
Central_Greek
+
8.9%
Southwest_English
@
1.56


9

79.8%
South_Italian
+
20.2%
Hungarian
@
1.61


10

88.8%
Central_Greek
+
11.2%
West_German
@
1.61


11

85.5%
South_Italian
+
14.5%
North_Swedish
@
1.61


12

91.7%
Central_Greek
+
8.3%
Norwegian
@
1.63


13

89.3%
Central_Greek
+
10.7%
South_Dutch
@
1.64


14

90.8%
Central_Greek
+
9.2%
North_German
@
1.64


15

87.9%
Central_Greek
+
12.1%
French
@
1.69


16

80.6%
South_Italian
+
19.4%
Austrian
@
1.75


17

91.8%
Central_Greek
+
8.2%
Swedish
@
1.81


18

60.7%
Cyprian
+
39.3%
South_Dutch
@
1.81


19

86.2%
South_Italian
+
13.8%
Southwest_Finnish
@
1.83


20

81.9%
South_Italian
+
18.1%
East_German
@
1.87




Bulgarian
Admix Results (sorted):



#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
25.21


2
East_Med
20.65


3
North_Atlantic
18.99


4
West_Med
17.87


5
West_Asian
13.32


6
Red_Sea
2.66


7
South_Asian
0.5


8
Amerindian
0.4


9
Oceanian
0.37


10
Siberian
0.03



Single Population Sharing:



#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Bulgarian
3.09


2
Romanian
5.64


3
Serbian
9.35


4
Greek_Thessaly
9.38


5
Moldavian
13.16


6
Central_Greek
15.78


7
Croatian
16.37


8
Italian_Abruzzo
16.38


9
Tuscan
17.01


10
East_Sicilian
17.21


11
Hungarian
17.27


12
West_Sicilian
18.03


13
North_Italian
18.48


14
Ashkenazi
18.72


15
South_Italian
20.36


16
Austrian
20.42


17
East_German
22.12


18
Ukrainian_Lviv
22.42


19
South_Polish
23.54


20
Ukrainian
23.68



Mixed Mode Population Sharing:



#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

62.6%
Central_Greek
+
37.4%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
2.19


2

64.8%
Croatian
+
35.2%
Cyprian
@
2.22


3

69.8%
Moldavian
+
30.2%
Cyprian
@
2.35


4

62.5%
Central_Greek
+
37.5%
Southwest_Russian
@
2.41


5

68.5%
Central_Greek
+
31.5%
Lithuanian
@
2.57


6

95.5%
Bulgarian
+
4.5%
Georgian_Jewish
@
2.6


7

95.8%
Bulgarian
+
4.2%
Iranian
@
2.64


8

95.7%
Bulgarian
+
4.3%
Adygei
@
2.66


9

96.5%
Bulgarian
+
3.5%
Abhkasian
@
2.67


10

96.3%
Bulgarian
+
3.7%
Georgian
@
2.68


11

95.9%
Bulgarian
+
4.1%
Kurdish
@
2.69


12

95.9%
Bulgarian
+
4.1%
Assyrian
@
2.69


13

95.3%
Bulgarian
+
4.7%
Kumyk
@
2.69


14

96.1%
Bulgarian
+
3.9%
Armenian
@
2.71


15

96.2%
Bulgarian
+
3.8%
Kurdish_Jewish
@
2.72


16

95.8%
Bulgarian
+
4.2%
Kabardin
@
2.72


17

96.2%
Bulgarian
+
3.8%
Iranian_Jewish
@
2.72


18

96.1%
Bulgarian
+
3.9%
North_Ossetian
@
2.73


19

56.4%
South_Italian
+
43.6%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
2.73


20

64.5%
Central_Greek
+
35.5%
Russian_Smolensk
@
2.75

DNZ
08-02-17, 00:22
Bulgarian
Admix Results (sorted):



#
Population
Percent


1
East_Med
24.36


2
North_Atlantic
23.15


3
Baltic
22.68


4
West_Med
14.77


5
West_Asian
9.36


6
Red_Sea
3.03


7
Siberian
0.95


8
East_Asian
0.7


9
Sub-Saharan
0.6


10
Northeast_African
0.41



Single Population Sharing:



#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Bulgarian
5.6


2
Romanian
6.48


3
Greek_Thessaly
9.04


4
Serbian
9.28


5
Tuscan
14.42


6
Italian_Abruzzo
14.69


7
Central_Greek
15.37


8
Moldavian
15.51


9
West_Sicilian
15.93


10
East_Sicilian
16.24


11
North_Italian
16.33


12
Ashkenazi
16.34


13
Hungarian
16.88


14
Croatian
17.95


15
South_Italian
19.34


16
Austrian
19.65


17
East_German
21.71


18
French
22


19
Portuguese
22.05


20
West_German
22.23



Mixed Mode Population Sharing:



#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

60.1%
Ashkenazi
+
39.9%
South_Polish
@
2.34


2

51.1%
Italian_Jewish
+
48.9%
South_Polish
@
2.57


3

50.8%
Ashkenazi
+
49.2%
Hungarian
@
2.81


4

56.6%
Italian_Jewish
+
43.4%
Belorussian
@
2.89


5

59.7%
Italian_Jewish
+
40.3%
Estonian
@
2.99


6

63.5%
Ashkenazi
+
36.5%
Polish
@
3


7

64.7%
Serbian
+
35.3%
Ashkenazi
@
3.01


8

66.4%
Ashkenazi
+
33.6%
Southwest_Finnish
@
3.07


9

79.7%
Serbian
+
20.3%
Lebanese_Druze
@
3.08


10

50.8%
Sephardic_Jewish
+
49.2%
South_Polish
@
3.09


11

68.3%
Ashkenazi
+
31.7%
Estonian
@
3.12


12

54.5%
Italian_Jewish
+
45.5%
Polish
@
3.13


13

54.1%
Italian_Jewish
+
45.9%
Southwest_Russian
@
3.17


14

56%
Italian_Jewish
+
44%
Russian_Smolensk
@
3.18


15

56.4%
Sephardic_Jewish
+
43.6%
Belorussian
@
3.21


16

54.4%
Italian_Jewish
+
45.6%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
3.24


17

51.8%
Italian_Jewish
+
48.2%
Ukrainian
@
3.26


18

52.4%
Ashkenazi
+
47.6%
Croatian
@
3.3


19

60.2%
Italian_Jewish
+
39.8%
Lithuanian
@
3.31


20

56.3%
Italian_Jewish
+
43.7%
Estonian_Polish
@
3.31




Romanian
Admix Results (sorted):



#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
24.7


2
North_Atlantic
22.82


3
West_Med
19.47


4
East_Med
17.61


5
West_Asian
10.73


6
East_Asian
1.8


7
Oceanian
1.1


8
Amerindian
0.77


9
Red_Sea
0.59


10
Siberian
0.4



Single Population Sharing:



#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Bulgarian
3.6


2
Romanian
3.64


3
Serbian
6.39


4
Moldavian
11.1


5
Greek_Thessaly
11.24


6
Croatian
13.98


7
Hungarian
14.07


8
North_Italian
15.54


9
Tuscan
15.93


10
Austrian
16.62


11
Italian_Abruzzo
17.53


12
Central_Greek
18.09


13
East_German
18.33


14
West_Sicilian
18.77


15
East_Sicilian
19.46


16
French
20.19


17
West_German
20.2


18
Ukrainian_Lviv
20.45


19
Portuguese
20.67


20
Spanish_Galicia
21.2



Mixed Mode Population Sharing:



#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

92.1%
Bulgarian
+
7.9%
Southwest_French
@
2.92


2

89.6%
Bulgarian
+
10.4%
East_German
@
2.93


3

94.7%
Bulgarian
+
5.3%
French_Basque
@
2.95


4

89.2%
Bulgarian
+
10.8%
Austrian
@
3.01


5

92.7%
Bulgarian
+
7.3%
Spanish_Cantabria
@
3.06


6

87.8%
Bulgarian
+
12.2%
Croatian
@
3.07


7

93.9%
Bulgarian
+
6.1%
Southwest_English
@
3.07


8

94.8%
Bulgarian
+
5.2%
La_Brana-1
@
3.08


9

85.1%
Bulgarian
+
14.9%
Moldavian
@
3.08


10

94%
Bulgarian
+
6%
Orcadian
@
3.09


11

93.7%
Bulgarian
+
6.3%
Southeast_English
@
3.1


12

94%
Bulgarian
+
6%
Swedish
@
3.1


13

92.2%
Bulgarian
+
7.8%
South_Dutch
@
3.11


14

94%
Bulgarian
+
6%
North_Swedish
@
3.11


15

94.3%
Bulgarian
+
5.7%
Irish
@
3.12


16

88.4%
Bulgarian
+
11.6%
Hungarian
@
3.12


17

91.8%
Bulgarian
+
8.2%
West_German
@
3.13


18

94.4%
Bulgarian
+
5.6%
Norwegian
@
3.13


19

92.3%
Bulgarian
+
7.7%
Ukrainian
@
3.13


20

94.5%
Bulgarian
+
5.5%
West_Scottish
@
3.14

selectivememri
08-02-17, 04:52
Interesting, thank you! Out of all of them I think I probably am closest to the Romanian, but I plot more north like that one bulgarian sample you posted.
#


Population
Percent


1
Baltic
24.96


2
North_Atlantic
22.5


3
East_Med
20.3


4
West_Med
17.36


5
West_Asian
9.62


6
Red_Sea
2.74


7
East_Asian
1.4


8
Siberian
0.99


9
Oceanian
0.14



#



Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

73.6%
Greek_Thessaly
+
26.4%
Belorussian
@
2.09


2

68.4%
Greek_Thessaly
+
31.6%
South_Polish
@
2.16


3

50.7%
South_Italian
+
49.3%
Ukrainian
@
2.17


4

76.2%
Greek_Thessaly
+
23.8%
Estonian
@
2.2


5

56.6%
South_Italian
+
43.4%
Belorussian
@
2.2


6

57.1%
Croatian
+
42.9%
Ashkenazi
@
2.23


7

68.8%
Greek_Thessaly
+
31.2%
Ukrainian
@
2.23


8

54.5%
Ukrainian
+
45.5%
Italian_Jewish
@
2.26


9

95.7%
Bulgarian
+
4.3%
La_Brana-1
@
2.27


10

56.1%
South_Italian
+
43.9%
Estonian_Polish
@
2.28


11

64.6%
Croatian
+
35.4%
Italian_Jewish
@
2.28


12

79.5%
Bulgarian
+
20.5%
Serbian
@
2.29


13

58.3%
West_Sicilian
+
41.7%
Southwest_Russian
@
2.3


14

73.3%
Greek_Thessaly
+
26.7%
Estonian_Polish
@
2.3


15

95.9%
Bulgarian
+
4.1%
East_Finnish
@
2.35


16

95.5%
Bulgarian
+
4.5%
Southwest_Finnish
@
2.35


17

95.8%
Bulgarian
+
4.2%
Finnish
@
2.36


18

58.6%
West_Sicilian
+
41.4%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
2.38


19

76.1%
Greek_Thessaly
+
23.9%
Finnish
@
2.39


20

71.7%
Greek_Thessaly
+
28.3%
Polish
@
2.39



Italian Jewish shows up there alot, I know in Bitola there used to be a large Ladino-speaking jewish community, where my father's from. Hmm!

South Asian ancestry (based at a glance off the samples you showed me) seem to suggest some Turkish ancestry? When coupled with a higher West Asian percentage? I wonder if the slightly higher East Asian in my k13 is suggestive of that as well, or maybe Aromanian?

Thank you for posting these results though! I have always felt like an outlier and not very representative of a "Macedonian" or even a "Southern European" person just because many of my relations are shorter than me, it's nice to see I fit in more than I thought! :)


Also, how does Red Sea differ from West Asian or East Med?

DNZ
14-02-17, 06:49
Hi,I bought Y-dna test for my maternal side.And two autosomal test for my family.We know something about our mixture.If we want to more information,This is what we can do.The other ways are estimate:).

Dibran
16-02-17, 00:29
Hey Bro,

I forgot to ask. What is your Paternal Haplogroup? out of curiosity.

My Ydna is R-M417 currently. Doing a deeper test with livingDNA. May do FTdna eventually.

My MtDna is H11a.

selectivememri
09-03-17, 23:34
Hey Dibran, not sure if you're asking me or DNZ, I never got a ydna or mtdna test done, just the autosomal so I dont think I'm able to find out which haplogroups I belong to. Did you end up getting your results with livingDNA yet? When you do post them here so we can see!

DNZ
26-04-17, 06:50
Hi Dibran,If you are asking me,my confirmed y-dna haplogroup is I2a2 North Dinaric or I-A1221(for snp results).I also did y-dna test for my maternal side too.Maternal side is R-M269(R1b)Waiting snp results.
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