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Sylwia
24-02-17, 17:34
I`ve recently received Y-dna results - predicted haplogroup E-M35 L117 Y2491 . On E-M35 project website administrators suggested that it is exactly : Z830 PF1962 M123 M34 M84 [Cluster I]. Does it necessarily mean it is Ashkenazi ? On E-M35 Project chart it is grouped withy only two people, one of whom is Jewish, and one is not (Caucasus) . Can you help me analyze this results?

Sylwia
24-02-17, 17:37
PANEL 1 (1-12)

Marker
DYS393
DYS390
DYS19**
DYS391
DYS385
DYS426
DYS388
DYS439
DYS389I
DYS392
DYS389II***


Value
15
24
13
11
18-19
11
12
12
13
12
30




PANEL 2 (13-25)

Marker
DYS458
DYS459
DYS455
DYS454
DYS447
DYS437
DYS448
DYS449
DYS464


Value
16
9-9
11
12
26
14
20
33
15-15-17-18




PANEL 3 (26-37)

Marker
DYS460
Y-GATA-H4
YCAII
DYS456
DYS607
DYS576
DYS570
CDY
DYS442
DYS438


Value
11
10
19-19
15
13
17
19
32-36
12
10

kingjohn
25-02-17, 01:38
dear sylwia,
ask here http://community.haplozone.net/
some people there can help you
you should order the z827 snp pack or to do big y full
best regards
adam

ESpraguer
28-02-17, 03:12
I think you've answered your own question. There are non-Jews who are E-M123 (plenty of them, especially in the Levant), so it's not "necessarily Jewish". However, Poland did historically have a large Jewish population, & M123 is not a very common haplo in Poland. So I'd say these factors weigh in favor of it being Jewish in origin. Almost all the indigenous E in Poland is E-V13 (4%). However it is certainly possible that the E-M123 came from the south in Greece or around the Black Sea, or came from Italy or the Caucusus or something. This can't be ruled out at this stage. There has been plenty of gene flow into Eastern Europe from those regions too. It should also be noted that ethnic Poles possess the marker in very small amounts (<.5%). You can do a more penetrative test & find out for certain if your line is essentially an exclusively Jewish one. Or you can compare your DNA to folks online to save yourself a little money. This might give you a pretty good idea regarding the likelihood your Y-DNA comes from a Jewish progenitor. But M123 is not exclusively Jewish in Europeans by any means. Napoleon was E-M123.