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haplotm70
26-02-17, 09:20
Hello new eupedia user here! Love the forums. Just recently got my 23 and Me results back and found out my paternal haplogroup is T-M70. Any info on T-M70? New user here. Thanks all! Looking forward for some and any tips. Thank you!

Alpenjager
27-02-17, 19:33
Hello haplotm70,

You can start taking a look into my phylogenetic T-M184 tree work:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Haplogroup_T-M184_tree.png

Then, perhaps you want to read some papers about the 7000ybp ancient settlement from Karsdorf, Germany.

Also you can look into your 23andMe y-chromosome file and try to find out if you belong to T1a2 or T1a1. Then you can go further deep testing with FTDNA or Full Genome Corp. Better if you can order Y12+BigY or Elite 2.1 but the cheapest alternative is order T-M184 pack.

Haplogroup T1a-M70 perhaps could be found in the deepest root of the Neolithic spark.

haplotm70
27-02-17, 20:42
wow Alpenjager Thank you so much!! For the reply and the time i appreciate it!! i will look into the link. In reading more ive come across that I might be apart of Thomas Jeffersons haplo? Which is really cool not having really known my dad. Woah! so much info! Thank you again and if anyone else has more to help with i appreciate that too!! Thanks Eupedia users!!

haplotm70
27-02-17, 20:53
And quick question Aplenjager... How do I get access my 23andme y chromosome file? really new to this thank you for the help!!

Alpenjager
27-02-17, 22:09
You should go to the 23andMe Menu and then select "Browse raw data", then you can try to find the SNPs with this tool or go to "download" in the right corner. If you prefer search through a downloaded file then select "y-chromosome" and download your data.

haplotm70
28-02-17, 21:59
ok thank you! did it! Now do I input the data somewere else to get the exact T? from what it says its T-M70. Thanks for the time Alpenjager!

Alpenjager
28-02-17, 22:57
Try to find L131, L162 and L208 in your genome and tell me what do you have for each:



SNP
Haplogroup
Other Names
RefSNP ID
Y-position (GRCh37)
YBrowse Build 37.
Mutation




L162
T1a1 (http://isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpT.html)
Page21
rs34179999 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/SNP/snp_ref.cgi?rs=34179999)
16019072 (http://ybrowse.y-chromosome.org/gb2/gbrowse/chrY/?name=chrY:16019072-16019072)
G->C




L208
T1a1a (http://isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpT.html)
Page2
rs35815655 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/SNP/snp_ref.cgi?rs=35815655)
6736443 (http://ybrowse.y-chromosome.org/gb2/gbrowse/chrY/?name=chrY:6736443-6736443)
C->T




L131
T1a2 (http://isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpT.html)

rs2215828 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/SNP/snp_ref.cgi?rs=2215828)
19372808 (http://ybrowse.y-chromosome.org/gb2/gbrowse/chrY/?name=chrY:19372808-19372808)
C->T

haplotm70
01-03-17, 19:41
Oh wow!! ok thank you!! Alpenjager!!! will do!!

haplotm70
01-03-17, 20:02
so the only partnered numbers I got upon looking were rs 34179999 16019072.. so that makes me get T1a1 haplogroup?
Now upon learning this new info.. what else can i figure out about my lineage?
All of this is so interesting to me as ive never really known my fathers lineage or ancestry
Thank you Alpenjager!!

Alpenjager
01-03-17, 22:47
What do you have for rs34179999 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/SNP/snp_ref.cgi?rs=34179999)? Do you have "C"?

haplotm70
02-03-17, 01:24
wrong message

haplotm70
02-03-17, 01:24
sorry T1a1a found the partnened numbers for that too. Thank you!

Alpenjager
02-03-17, 19:48
Then, are you ancestral "G" or instead derived "C"?

haplotm70
03-03-17, 01:12
i cant tell, thank you so much for the reply, From what i can see it has some sort of "dash"? What would that mean? Sorry really new to processing DNA page.

Alpenjager
03-03-17, 18:58
Then, do you have in your y-chromosome file:

rs34179999 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/SNP/snp_ref.cgi?rs=34179999) Y 16019072 (http://ybrowse.y-chromosome.org/gb2/gbrowse/chrY/?name=chrY:16019072-16019072) --
rs35815655 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/SNP/snp_ref.cgi?rs=35815655) Y 6736443 (http://ybrowse.y-chromosome.org/gb2/gbrowse/chrY/?name=chrY:6736443-6736443) --

?

haplotm70
04-03-17, 07:33
Yes yes exactly like that. Does that dash correspond with the letter above? in line of a repeat letter? or does the dash mean something else completely? Im still trying to decipher the data. Thank you for the help Alpenjager!!

Alpenjager
04-03-17, 23:39
Yes yes exactly like that. Does that dash correspond with the letter above? in line of a repeat letter? or does the dash mean something else completely? Im still trying to decipher the data. Thank you for the help Alpenjager!!

Well, then you seems to have no way to go further down in the tree using the 23andMe y-chromosome file. You remain as T1a-M70. But you can try to see it for yourself with http://www.y-str.org/2014/04/23andme-to-ysnps.html also you can try to paste your SNPs here: https://ytree.morleydna.com/ here: http://www.y-str.org/2014/12/y-tree-creator.html and here: http://www.y-str.org/2014/04/isogg-y-tree-addon-for-google-chrome.html

The next step should be test with FTDNA or Full Genomes Corp.

No problem haplotm70! I will try to help you.