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New Englander
15-03-17, 05:22
Do they collaborate to GEDmatch very well?

Why do I get so much "Broadly" ancestry?



European 97.8%

Middle Eastern & North African 2.1%

East Asian & Native American 0.1%

Unassigned< 0.1%


European97.8%

Southern European 58.3%

Italian 36.4%

Balkan 1.9%

Broadly Southern European 20.0%


Ashkenazi Jewish 15.3%


Northwestern European 12.5%

British & Irish 3.7%

Scandinavian 0.9%

Broadly Northwestern European 7.8%


Eastern European 0.2%


Broadly European 11.5%

New Englander
15-03-17, 05:25
MDLP K16 2xOracle and OracleX4

Admix Results (sorted):



#
Population
Percent


1
Caucasian
33.96


2
Neolithic
25.80


3
Steppe
16.19


4
NorthEastEuropean
11.82


5
NearEast
6.59


6
NorthAfrican
2.81


7
Indian
1.52




Finished reading population data. 516 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Italian @ 3.810068
2 Greek @ 4.229321
3 Greek @ 4.778130
4 Albanian @ 6.053196
5 Greek @ 6.240767
6 Gagauz @ 6.561141
7 Kosovar @ 6.647440
8 Greek @ 6.737821
9 Italian @ 6.845923
10 Sicilian @ 6.990507
11 Italian @ 7.607857
12 Jew @ 7.940345
13 Italian @ 8.114046
14 Jew @ 8.275795
15 Jew @ 8.687042
16 Jew @ 8.920505
17 Romanian @ 8.980809
18 Maltese @ 9.041584
19 Bulgarian @ 9.113941
20 Greek @ 9.142041

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot +50% French @ 3.132054


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% French +25% Jew +25% Jew @ 2.403215


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++
1 Jew + Armenian + English + Spanish @ 1.607330
2 Armenian + English + Jew + Spanish @ 1.663090
3 Armenian + English + Jew + Spanish @ 1.694453
4 Armenian + English + Jew + Spanish @ 1.705359
5 Armenian + Cypriot + English + Spanish @ 1.723775
6 Armenian + Dutch + Jew + Spanish @ 1.750709
7 Armenian + English + Spanish + Jew @ 1.754526
8 Armenian + Scottish + Jew + Spanish @ 1.757841
9 Armenian + Hungarian + Jew + Spanish @ 1.776551
10 Jew + Armenian + English + Spanish @ 1.781777
11 Armenian + Italian + Provencal + Spanish @ 1.782881
12 Jew + Armenian + Irish + Spanish @ 1.790826
13 Armenian + Bosnian + French + Jew @ 1.793978
14 Armenian + Cypriot + Orcadian + Spanish @ 1.805219
15 Armenian + Dutch + Jew + Spanish @ 1.805576
16 Jew + Armenian + Scottish + Spanish @ 1.807223
17 Armenian + Cypriot + English + Spanish @ 1.817127
18 Armenian + French + Jew + Spanish @ 1.821414
19 Armenian + Scottish + Jew + Spanish @ 1.822890
20 Armenian + Croat + French + Jew @ 1.827996

247
28-10-17, 20:27
What accuracy rating is your 23&Me results on? Having it on 90% (conservative) will make it more likely that you're described as "Broadly European". If you're already on 40%, you could be labeled as "Broadly European" because 23&Me is having a hard time pinning your ancestry down in one region and doesn't want to give you results that are too speculative, lest you use that misinformation elsewhere.

I've noticed a lot of 23&Me users using GEDMatch, but there seems to be some concern over how 23&Me presents their new V5 raw data. Take your MDLP results with a grain of salt if they seem outlandish.

Jovialis
28-10-17, 21:54
I've noticed a lot of 23&Me users using GEDMatch, but there seems to be some concern over how 23&Me presents their new V5 raw data. Take your MDLP results with a grain of salt if they seem outlandish.

:mad: I'm really starting to hate this V5 chip update. So now I won't be able to get accurate results from GEDmatch either?!

Are there any other apps and tests that will have issues with it? I know that FTDNA is still incompatible with the new version.

Edit: I did a bit of digging and found this:

http://thednageek.com/whats-new-in-autosomal-dna-transfers/

https://i.imgur.com/mjM3KPh.png

Do you mean GEDmatch Genesis? Because it says it's incompatible with the regular one.

Angela
28-10-17, 22:25
You should always use the most "speculative" version; they're way too conservative.

The reason "broadly" shows up is because not enough people from your particular area/areas may have tested to act as a reference. As I said, they're very conservative.

Since I know my ancestors for 500 years back at least are from Italy, I know all my broadly Southern European is Italian from a genealogical point of view.

I'm thinking of getting the V5 for the trait and health results. If I do I'll compare my results on the gedmatch calculators and see what it shows.

Johane Derite
29-10-17, 14:12
I'm really suspicious of "imputation." Which is the defining characteristic of these new V5 chips : /

davef
29-10-17, 15:31
For our sake, they should go back to the old version of 23andme since the new version is a piece of crap.

Jovialis
29-10-17, 16:14
I'm really suspicious of "imputation." Which is the defining characteristic of these new V5 chips : /

LivingDNA, who was developing and launching a new product during the transition time between chips was the first vendor out the gate with a GSA product. Illumina represented imputation to be “very accurate” to LivingDNA, which is consequently how they represented the results to a group of genetic genealogists on a conference call in early 2017. LivingDNA was the lucky company to have the opportunity to “work the bugs out” with Illumina – said with tongue firmly in cheek. LivingDNA provides a list of papers describing their methods here.
https://dna-explained.com/category/livingdna/


I know for sure my LivingDNA results will be very accurate since they too are using the same GSA technology. Thankfully, because I really would like to be part of the One Family One World Project (https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/34771-Living-DNA-launching-One-Family-One-World-Project-in-cooperation-with-Eupedia). :smile: