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bicicleur
30-03-17, 20:21
a clash between pro- and anti Erdogan Turks voting in the Turkish embassy in Brussels
3 Kurds were stabbed
the Turks start to export their civil war
double nationality should be abolished

http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/957/Binnenland/article/detail/3118435/2017/03/30/Rellen-aan-Turkse-ambassade-Brussel-verschillende-gewonden.dhtml?show=art

Yetos
30-03-17, 21:51
the hayir evet (YES NO) referendum is very important for Sultan.

the pitty on this case is that also divides European countries,
the importance of this referendum is so strong that except Netherlands and others,
Bulgaria and Turkey had red alert and closed borders, at Bulgarian elections,
I am afraid that in next days and the closer to the day of referendum we will see more,
Just for inform, in one week we seen 2 strange cases at Greek Muslim minority (part of it areTurks)
even a fire at a temen, and GreeK army is one click to red alert.

Erdogan took it very serious this referendum, and his challenge against Gullen,
(the man also faced a military action against him) that Turkey today is full of Foundamentals,
even common and calm people turn to this mania,
It will take more than a decade to calm down the 'warm-heads'

bicicleur
31-03-17, 00:29
even common and calm people turn to this mania,


Erdogan gains support with further polarisation
he is very popular right now, because economy in Turkey was very good and he claims it is his work
but the economy is over the top since 1-2 years now and Erdogan did undermine the basis for the Turkish economy
Turkish economic prospects for the next years are very bad
but if Erdogan can take more power nobody will dare to criticise him any more
it will be a very dangerous situation
and whatever goes wrong, the Turks will have inflicted this on themselves

Yetos
31-03-17, 02:15
Erdogan gains support with further polarisation
he is very popular right now,


that is the main problem,
with the Arab spring Erdogan also took the chance to declare himshelf defender of Islam,
If he succeds we might have another Putin and billionaire,

But if the NO comes, Turkey will face huge political gasp, and problems,
if the referendum goes for NO we might see soon very big political anomaly there,
and if goes YES Turkey will transform to Russian style of politics.
I agree that this referendum divided and pushed to the limits the Turks.

bicicleur
31-03-17, 09:16
that is the main problem,
with the Arab spring Erdogan also took the chance to declare himshelf defender of Islam,
If he succeds we might have another Putin and billionaire,

But if the NO comes, Turkey will face huge political gasp, and problems,
if the referendum goes for NO we might see soon very big political anomaly there,
and if goes YES Turkey will transform to Russian style of politics.
I agree that this referendum divided and pushed to the limits the Turks.

it certainly is Erdogans ambition
in the end he will ruin Turkey, but in the mean time he'll cause a lot of trouble elsewhere too