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I found a lot of Scandinavian kits using "One-to-many" search option in GEDmatch.
I checked how much of East European do these Scandinavians get in Eurogenes K10:
Kit - ethnicity - East European %:
T863*** - Norwegian - 46.67%
T837*** - Norwegian - 44.77%
T488*** - Norwegian - 44.16%
T550*** - Norwegian - 44.03%
T832*** - Swedish - 43.75%
T175*** - Norwegian - 43.39%
T391*** - Norwegian - 43.00%
T235*** - Norwegian - 39.29%
H280*** - Norwegian - 38.36%
T220*** - Swedish - 35.80%
T425*** - Norwegian - 35.49%
T583*** - Norwegian - 35.43%
T134*** - Swedish - 33.51%
A989*** - Norwegian - 33.18%
T702*** - Norwegian - 33.09%
T398*** - Swedish - 33.06%
T753*** - Swedish - 31.76%
T926*** - Swedish - 31.38%
T241*** - Swedish - 31.13%
T941*** - Swedish - 30.90%
T931*** - Swedish - 30.85%
T204*** - Norwegian - 30.47%
T512*** - Swedish - 30.33%
T955*** - Swedish - 30.23%
T975*** - Swedish - 30.16%
T905*** - Norwegian - 30.02%
Z711*** - Norwegian - 29.93%
T035*** - Norwegian - 29.71%
T256*** - Swedish - 29.00%
T753*** - Norwegian - 28.58%
T822*** - Swedish - 28.53%
T142*** - Swedish - 28.20%
T664*** - Norwegian - 28.09%
T404*** - Norwegian - 27.29%
F367*** - Swedish - 27.27%
M873*** - Norwegian - 27.09%
M606*** - Swedish - 26.55%
T262*** - Norwegian - 26.48%
T346*** - Norwegian - 26.08%
M351*** - Norwegian - 24.54%
T269*** - Northern Dutch - 24.49%
T560*** - Norwegian - 22.55%
T293*** - Frisian (Denmark) - 21.22%
What's interesting is that there are more Norwegians than Swedes scoring >40% of it.
Perhaps I just did not manage to find any Northern (and North-Eastern) Swedes?
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By comparison my own results in K10:
East European - 44.48%
Yea makes a lot more sense , I don't know what dienkes was doing when he created the spreadsheet for dodecad.
My father's results K10
Population
South Asian 1.10
Caucasus 6.95
Southwest Asian 2.59
North Amerindian + Arctic 0.33
Siberian 0.77
Mediterranean 12.76
East Asian 0.34
West African -
East European 39.78
North Atlantic 35.39
Can you share your total percentages?
My grandmother's K10 results for comparison. Her ancestry is mostly British isles.
Population
South Asian -
Caucasus 9.13
Southwest Asian 2.25
North Amerindian + Arctic -
Siberian 0.15
Mediterranean 14.37
East Asian -
West African -
East European 19.35
North Atlantic 54.71
My total percentages:
East European 44.48
North Atlantic 34.53
Mediterranean 11.34
Caucasus 7.61
Southwest Asian 1.32
South Asian 0.43
North Amerindian + Arctic 0.29
New Englander
03-04-17, 17:26
Population
South Asian
1.82
Caucasus
24.79
Southwest Asian
11.78
North Amerindian + Arctic
0.46
Siberian
-
Mediterranean
26.04
East Asian
-
West African
0.12
East European
10.56
North Atlantic
24.43
My results.
Population
South Asian
0.41
Caucasus
4.80
Southwest Asian
1.60
North Amerindian + Arctic
0.57
Siberian
0.44
Mediterranean
12.09
East Asian
0.71
West African
0.32
East European
37.34
North Atlantic
41.72
Results for an ethnic pole from western Ukraine Zydaczow
Population
South Asian
0.17
Caucasus
8.35
Southwest Asian
2.33
North Amerindian + Arctic
0.40
Siberian
-
Mediterranean
12.83
East Asian
0.90
West African
0.23
East European
42.48
North Atlantic
32.31
Ukrainian results from Kiev
Population
South Asian
1.33
Caucasus
9.04
Southwest Asian
1.96
North Amerindian + Arctic
0.97
Siberian
1.81
Mediterranean
9.73
East Asian
-
West African
-
East European
48.43
North Atlantic
26.73
K10 results for Belarusian
Eurogenes k10
Population
South Asian
0.75
Caucasus
4.16
Southwest Asian
0.18
North Amerindian + Arctic
0.44
Siberian
1.41
Mediterranean
8.25
East Asian
-
West African
0.35
East European
55.88
North Atlantic
28.57
Me:
South Asian
0.90
Caucasus
6.22
Southwest Asian
3.44
North Amerindian + Arctic
0.70
Siberian
-
Mediterranean
11.90
East Asian
-
West African
-
East European
38.96
North Atlantic
37.83
--EDIT
I made average Czech (21 samples):
Average Czech
N. ATLANTIC
37.72
(30.06 - 42.8)
E EURO
38.32
(31.95 - 43.35)
MEDIT
13.17
(9.25 - 16.16)
CAUCASUS
7.77
(4.69 - 12.26)
SW ASIAN
1.33
(0 - 3.44)
S ASIAN
0.93
(0 - 2.54)
SIBERIAN
0.15
(0 - 0.79)
E ASIAN
0.05
(0 - 0.55)
N. AMERIND
0.43
(0 - 0.94)
W AFRICAN
0.12
(0 - 0.58)
Me:
South Asian
0.90
Caucasus
6.22
Southwest Asian
3.44
North Amerindian + Arctic
0.70
Siberian
-
Mediterranean
11.90
East Asian
-
West African
-
East European
38.96
North Atlantic
37.83
Can you do a Czech average? Also if you could separate Moravians and Bohemians. I think Moravians are going to be just like Slovaks but Bohemians will be a bit different. I keep trying to find Slovak samples on gedmatch through my father's kits. It seems Slovaks never take genetic tests. All I get are southern poles and Western ukrainians
Sorry I didn't catch your quick answer. I edited my post. Separation is difficult, because I don't know who is really Moravian/Bohemian. I am Moravian and only one or two samples are clearly Moravians too:
N. ATLANTIC
32.95
34.62
E EURO
43.35
40.18
MEDIT
12.22
12.3
CAUCASUS
7.84
8.72
SW ASIAN
0.87
2.98
S ASIAN
0.75
0
SIBERIAN
0.72
0.35
E ASIAN
0.55
0
N. AMERIND
0.73
0.43
W AFRICAN
0
0.41
this is a southern pole. His father was from Tarnow and mother from Jaslo poland. His results would fit with in the czech ( and im assuming Slovak) range. Its funny because people always like to seperate poles and say they are all more like east slavs genetically but southern poles and even west poles seem to be closer to slovaks and czechs which make sense.
K10
Population
South Asian
0.18
Caucasus
5.05
Southwest Asian
1.24
North Amerindian + Arctic
-
Siberian
-
Mediterranean
12.56
East Asian
-
West African
-
East European
42.26
North Atlantic
38.71
This is actually really interesting, but I wonder if these results change depending on the farther down you are in Eastern Europe. Also where did he get these results what company did he use? If he took DNA.
This is actually really interesting, but I wonder if these results change depending on the farther down you are in Eastern Europe. Also where did he get these results what company did he use? If he took DNA.
Was this addressed at my last post? Yes it is interesting. This particular person tested with 23 and me. Tomenable would have to share balkan countries K10 results as I dont have any balkan kits. I'm sure their med is elevated and eastern euro reduced
I think Balkan is a bit less ANE and much more Basal, so I think they will have much more Caucasus, a bit more Med and some SW Asian, a bit less Eastern. This is my guess.
Ten slovak ruthenian samples from far east slovakia. Some have ancestry from ruthenians in the carpathians on the polish and ukrainian side of the border. I put them in R and created an average. Its interesting how low of North Atlantic they have compared to czechs, Slovaks, and Poles, and how there med and west asian admix is elevated
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Average
South Asian 2.07 0.24 1.10 0.00 1.06 0.71 0.66 0.86 1.93 1.68 1.031
Caucasus 8.56 7.39 9.71 8.89 7.50 10.47 8.99 8.70 8.62 8.94 8.777
Southwest Asian 2.26 3.80 1.40 1.44 3.01 1.54 1.57 0.72 0.34 3.56 1.964
North Amerindian + Arctic 0.60 0.00 0.32 1.65 0.00 1.02 0.00 0.00 1.20 0.00 0.479
Siberian 1.36 2.14 1.21 1.61 0.00 0.82 0.40 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.754
Mediterranean 15.34 12.51 13.62 14.32 15.02 14.30 16.85 16.68 14.03 13.89 14.656
East Asian 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.81 0.00 1.24 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.305
West African 0.00 0.24 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.19 0.00 0.48 0.00 0.091
East European 40.30 43.19 42.57 39.38 45.36 42.02 39.17 38.30 47.77 40.50 41.856
North Atlantic 29.51 30.17 30.06 32.72 26.23 29.12 30.92 34.73 25.65 31.43 30.054
Wow, how did you get so many Rusyn samples in just few days?
Wow, how did you get so many Rusyn samples in just few days?
Actually the kit u sent me never responded but through my dad's kit I somehow came into contact with an American ruthenian who runs a Carpathian rusyn project :)
Rusyns are cool and very temperament guys :) Many of them study in Prague.
Do you have GEDmatch kits or Eurogenes K36 results of these Rusyns ???
We (me + one more guy) are making Oracle for Eurogenes K36 calculator:
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/33947-Pitcairn-Islander-GEDmatch-results?p=506232&viewfull=1#post506232
Later we will probably publish the spreadsheet with pop. averages in K36.
We even found members of Hawaiian royal dynasty on GEDmatch... : :smile:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Kawānanakoa
"One-to-many" search is very useful, you can find a lot of populations. :smile:
Do you have GEDmatch kits or Eurogenes K36 results of these Rusyns ???
We (me + one more guy) are making Oracle for Eurogenes K36 calculator:
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/33947-Pitcairn-Islander-GEDmatch-results?p=506232&viewfull=1#post506232
Later we will probably publish the spreadsheet with pop. averages in K36.
Yes I have all of them, I'll send them to you on the other forum. I'm excited to see your finished Oracle project
Do you have GEDmatch kits or Eurogenes K36 results of these Rusyns ???
We (me + one more guy) are making Oracle for Eurogenes K36 calculator:
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/33947-Pitcairn-Islander-GEDmatch-results?p=506232&viewfull=1#post506232
Later we will probably publish the spreadsheet with pop. averages in K36.did you get my message with the kit numbers on the other forum? i sent the message twice but I see nothing in my sent items?
Apsurdistan
01-05-17, 08:33
heres my eurogenes k10
Population
South Asian
-
Caucasus
16.98
Southwest Asian
2.77
North Amerindian + Arctic
1.05
Siberian
0.20
Mediterranean
16.39
East Asian
-
West African
0.71
East European
33.33
North Atlantic
28.58
South Asian
2.97
Caucasus
6.70
Southwest Asian
2.90
North Amerindian + Arctic
-
Siberian
0.40
Mediterranean
12.14
East Asian
-
West African
1.22
East European
19.37
North Atlantic
54.30
I found a lot of Scandinavian kits using "One-to-many" search option in GEDmatch.
Not you find, but I gave you them:) And some od them are infact Saami. They have high Siberian in Eurogenes K36 for example.
Not you find, but I gave you them:) And some od them are infact Saami. They have high Siberian in Eurogenes K36 for example.
Welcome to Eupedia mlukas :). Not so many viruses here like the other forum lol
JajarBingan
04-05-17, 22:23
Population
South Asian
-
Caucasus
15.77
Southwest Asian
4.07
North Amerindian + Arctic
-
Siberian
1.64
Mediterranean
17.45
East Asian
2.40
West African
-
East European
33.39
North Atlantic
25.27
JajarBingan
05-05-17, 12:07
K10 results for Belarusian
Eurogenes k10
Population
South Asian
0.75
Caucasus
4.16
Southwest Asian
0.18
North Amerindian + Arctic
0.44
Siberian
1.41
Mediterranean
8.25
East Asian
-
West African
0.35
East European
55.88
North Atlantic
28.57
It's interesting to see that your Polish, Belarusian and Ukrainian examples absorb North Amerimindian + Arctic in addition to Siberian. I seem to take East Asian and Siberian instead.
Population
South Asian
-
Caucasus
15.77
Southwest Asian
4.07
North Amerindian + Arctic
-
Siberian
1.64
Mediterranean
17.45
East Asian
2.40
West African
-
East European
33.39
North Atlantic
25.27
Where are you from in Romania?
My k10
South Asian
0.54
Caucasus
6.51
Southwest Asian
2.43
North Amerindian + Arctic
0.66
Siberian
-
Mediterranean
9.45
East Asian
-
West African
0.63
East European
51.23
North Atlantic
28.55
My k10
South Asian
0.54
Caucasus
6.51
Southwest Asian
2.43
North Amerindian + Arctic
0.66
Siberian
-
Mediterranean
9.45
East Asian
-
West African
0.63
East European
51.23
North Atlantic
28.55
Where is your background from in Poland, you are super Slav bro
Sent from my KIW-L21 using Tapatalk
My data
Ukrainian, Kyiv
Population
South Asian
3.10
Caucasus
6.19
Southwest Asian
0.83
North Amerindian + Arctic
-
Siberian
1.38
Mediterranean
8.32
East Asian
-
West African
0.75
East European
49.52
North Atlantic
29.87
Population
South Asian
2.97
Caucasus
6.70
Southwest Asian
2.90
North Amerindian + Arctic
-
Siberian
0.40
Mediterranean
12.14
East Asian
-
West African
1.22
East European
19.37
North Atlantic
54.30
Population
South Asian
-
Caucasus
1.55
Southwest Asian
-
North Amerindian + Arctic
0.75
Siberian
1.76
Mediterranean
6.76
East Asian
1.14
West African
0.11
East European
32.10
North Atlantic
55.82
Here are mine, these are from ancestrydna results
South Asian
-
Caucasus
18.92
Southwest Asian
7.95
North Amerindian + Arctic
-
Siberian
1.14
Mediterranean
21.50
East Asian
-
West African
-
East European
25.35
North Atlantic
25.1
Population
South Asian 0.90
Caucasus 6.53
Southwest Asian 1.89
North Amerindian + Arctic 0.13
Siberian 1.45
Mediterranean 10.94
East Asian 0.06
West African 0.62
East European 49.56
North Atlantic 27.92
Southern Pole/Southwestern Ukrainian from Carpatho-Rus region. Eurogenes K10. This is my results
Ten slovak ruthenian samples from far east slovakia. Some have ancestry from ruthenians in the carpathians on the polish and ukrainian side of the border. I put them in R and created an average. Its interesting how low of North Atlantic they have compared to czechs, Slovaks, and Poles, and how there med and west asian admix is elevated
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Average
South Asian 2.07 0.24 1.10 0.00 1.06 0.71 0.66 0.86 1.93 1.68 1.031
Caucasus 8.56 7.39 9.71 8.89 7.50 10.47 8.99 8.70 8.62 8.94 8.777
Southwest Asian 2.26 3.80 1.40 1.44 3.01 1.54 1.57 0.72 0.34 3.56 1.964
North Amerindian + Arctic 0.60 0.00 0.32 1.65 0.00 1.02 0.00 0.00 1.20 0.00 0.479
Siberian 1.36 2.14 1.21 1.61 0.00 0.82 0.40 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.754
Mediterranean 15.34 12.51 13.62 14.32 15.02 14.30 16.85 16.68 14.03 13.89 14.656
East Asian 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.81 0.00 1.24 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.305
West African 0.00 0.24 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.19 0.00 0.48 0.00 0.091
East European 40.30 43.19 42.57 39.38 45.36 42.02 39.17 38.30 47.77 40.50 41.856
North Atlantic 29.51 30.17 30.06 32.72 26.23 29.12 30.92 34.73 25.65 31.43 30.054
This interesting data. My paternal side is from Carpatho-Rus, I score average on all categories with few exceptions, of 10 samples I score highest East European 49.56%, third lowest North Atlantic 27.92%, and slightly less Mediterranean 10.94%. This results make sense my maternal side is from Ukraine so it alters my result.
My results(Hungarian)
Population
South Asian
1.82
Caucasus
13.61
Southwest Asian
1.54
North Amerindian + Arctic
-
Siberian
0.79
Mediterranean
18.98
East Asian
-
West African
-
East European
27.00
North Atlantic
36.26
South Asian
0.61
Caucasus
16.78
Southwest Asian
6.86
North Amerindian + Arctic
0.75
Siberian
0.45
Mediterranean
21.78
East Asian
-
West African
-
East European
28.49
North Atlantic
24.28
That's the highest Southwest Asian I've ever got, it's usually 42. All Near Easterners are a mixture of the three farmer groups that expanded to Europe (Mediterranean), south/central Asia (Caucasus), and Africa (Southwest Asian).
Population
South Asian
2.63
Caucasus
22.31
Southwest Asian
54.48
North Amerindian + Arctic
0.13
Siberian
0.47
Mediterranean
16.37
East Asian
0.10
West African
3.50
East European
-
North Atlantic
-
That's the highest Southwest Asian I've ever got, it's usually 42. All Near Easterners are a mixture of the three farmer groups that expanded to Europe (Mediterranean), south/central Asia (Caucasus), and Africa (Southwest Asian).
Population
South Asian
2.63
Caucasus
22.31
Southwest Asian
54.48
North Amerindian + Arctic
0.13
Siberian
0.47
Mediterranean
16.37
East Asian
0.10
West African
3.50
East European
-
North Atlantic
-
Thanks! I love reading middle eastern results, they're very interesting!
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