Guess her ethnicity (later I will post her Admixture results)
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Sile
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Guess ethnicity (no cheating / google-searching please):
Later I will post her GEDmatch admixture results.
looks like an old friulian auntie of mine ( since passed away ) whose origins where hungarian
srdceleva
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- 75% Slovak, 25℅ American mix
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- U4b1b1
She could come from anywhere. Looks American to me like school teachers I had. She also looks a bit Serbian like some Serbian women here in vienna
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How do you define "American"? Are you saying she looks like an Inuit? Cherokee? Maya? If so, I'd say: "look again."
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If she is in fact, "American," I'd guess a Latina of some sort
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And if I were to narrow down the geography, I'd guess either she or her family came from a country in or near the Caribbean (e.g. Cuba, Puerto Rico, Colombia, etc).
srdceleva
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I say American as a typical modern American women who is a mix of a bunch of European countries.
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Thanks for your guesses! She is Jewish:
http://www.classmates.com/people/Rhea-Tannenbaum/8700022569
Here is her GEDmatch kit number:
https://www.geni.com/discussions/158342
PCA based on Eurogenes K15:
http://i.imgur.com/By2HkpW.png
Eurogenes K13 results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.76
2 West_Med 21.4
3 North_Atlantic 14.34
4 West_Asian 11.26
5 Baltic 7.05
6 Red_Sea 4.91
7 Siberian 1.37
8 South_Asian 1.28
9 Sub-Saharan 1.05
10 East_Asian 0.9
11 Northeast_African 0.66
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 4.41
2 Algerian_Jewish 5.31
3 Italian_Jewish 5.59
4 South_Italian 5.65
5 East_Sicilian 6.47
6 Sephardic_Jewish 6.61
7 Central_Greek 7.91
8 West_Sicilian 8.72
9 Tunisian_Jewish 9.69
10 Libyan_Jewish 10.59
11 Italian_Abruzzo 10.73
12 Cyprian 12.91
13 Greek_Thessaly 13.01
14 Tuscan 15.36
15 Lebanese_Muslim 17.17
16 Syrian 18.38
17 Samaritan 18.97
18 Lebanese_Druze 20.03
19 Lebanese_Christian 20.18
20 Palestinian 20.28
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.4% Ashkenazi + 43.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.54
2 59.4% Ashkenazi + 40.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3
3 74.4% Algerian_Jewish + 25.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.02
4 83.2% Algerian_Jewish + 16.8% Bulgarian @ 3.05
5 84.7% Algerian_Jewish + 15.3% Romanian @ 3.14
6 63% Algerian_Jewish + 37% Central_Greek @ 3.16
7 73.6% Italian_Jewish + 26.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.3
8 86.9% Algerian_Jewish + 13.1% Serbian @ 3.3
9 61.3% Ashkenazi + 38.7% South_Italian @ 3.33
10 66.4% Ashkenazi + 33.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.33
11 91.9% Algerian_Jewish + 8.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.34
12 91.9% Algerian_Jewish + 8.1% Southwest_Russian @ 3.35
13 91.9% Italian_Jewish + 8.1% Erzya @ 3.35
14 89.1% Algerian_Jewish + 10.9% Moldavian @ 3.36
15 91.4% Algerian_Jewish + 8.6% South_Polish @ 3.36
16 92.5% Algerian_Jewish + 7.5% Erzya @ 3.36
17 91.5% Algerian_Jewish + 8.5% Ukrainian @ 3.38
18 92.4% Algerian_Jewish + 7.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.38
19 89.7% Algerian_Jewish + 10.3% Hungarian @ 3.38
20 91.2% Algerian_Jewish + 8.8% Tatar @ 3.39
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Algerian_Jewish +50% Ashkenazi @ 2.664004
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Algerian_Jewish +25% Ashkenazi +25% Central_Greek @ 2.578594
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + South_Italian @ 2.402218
2 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Central_Greek @ 2.578594
3 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish @ 2.599690
4 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi @ 2.664004
5 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + South_Italian @ 2.681313
6 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish + South_Italian @ 2.749120
7 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish + South_Italian @ 2.764795
8 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish @ 2.769740
9 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + East_Sicilian + Italian_Jewish @ 2.792049
10 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + East_Sicilian @ 2.839174
11 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish @ 2.875792
12 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Cyprian + Tuscan @ 2.979171
13 Algerian_Jewish + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish @ 2.979847
14 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.021517
15 Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish @ 3.024438
16 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Cyprian + West_Sicilian @ 3.132438
17 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Cyprian + West_Sicilian @ 3.135957
18 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.138411
19 Ashkenazi + East_Sicilian + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish @ 3.142313
20 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + West_Sicilian @ 3.153346
http://www.classmates.com/people/Rhea-Tannenbaum/8700022569
Here is her GEDmatch kit number:
https://www.geni.com/discussions/158342
PCA based on Eurogenes K15:
http://i.imgur.com/By2HkpW.png
Eurogenes K13 results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.76
2 West_Med 21.4
3 North_Atlantic 14.34
4 West_Asian 11.26
5 Baltic 7.05
6 Red_Sea 4.91
7 Siberian 1.37
8 South_Asian 1.28
9 Sub-Saharan 1.05
10 East_Asian 0.9
11 Northeast_African 0.66
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 4.41
2 Algerian_Jewish 5.31
3 Italian_Jewish 5.59
4 South_Italian 5.65
5 East_Sicilian 6.47
6 Sephardic_Jewish 6.61
7 Central_Greek 7.91
8 West_Sicilian 8.72
9 Tunisian_Jewish 9.69
10 Libyan_Jewish 10.59
11 Italian_Abruzzo 10.73
12 Cyprian 12.91
13 Greek_Thessaly 13.01
14 Tuscan 15.36
15 Lebanese_Muslim 17.17
16 Syrian 18.38
17 Samaritan 18.97
18 Lebanese_Druze 20.03
19 Lebanese_Christian 20.18
20 Palestinian 20.28
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.4% Ashkenazi + 43.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.54
2 59.4% Ashkenazi + 40.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3
3 74.4% Algerian_Jewish + 25.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.02
4 83.2% Algerian_Jewish + 16.8% Bulgarian @ 3.05
5 84.7% Algerian_Jewish + 15.3% Romanian @ 3.14
6 63% Algerian_Jewish + 37% Central_Greek @ 3.16
7 73.6% Italian_Jewish + 26.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.3
8 86.9% Algerian_Jewish + 13.1% Serbian @ 3.3
9 61.3% Ashkenazi + 38.7% South_Italian @ 3.33
10 66.4% Ashkenazi + 33.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.33
11 91.9% Algerian_Jewish + 8.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.34
12 91.9% Algerian_Jewish + 8.1% Southwest_Russian @ 3.35
13 91.9% Italian_Jewish + 8.1% Erzya @ 3.35
14 89.1% Algerian_Jewish + 10.9% Moldavian @ 3.36
15 91.4% Algerian_Jewish + 8.6% South_Polish @ 3.36
16 92.5% Algerian_Jewish + 7.5% Erzya @ 3.36
17 91.5% Algerian_Jewish + 8.5% Ukrainian @ 3.38
18 92.4% Algerian_Jewish + 7.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.38
19 89.7% Algerian_Jewish + 10.3% Hungarian @ 3.38
20 91.2% Algerian_Jewish + 8.8% Tatar @ 3.39
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Algerian_Jewish +50% Ashkenazi @ 2.664004
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Algerian_Jewish +25% Ashkenazi +25% Central_Greek @ 2.578594
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + South_Italian @ 2.402218
2 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Central_Greek @ 2.578594
3 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish @ 2.599690
4 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi @ 2.664004
5 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + South_Italian @ 2.681313
6 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish + South_Italian @ 2.749120
7 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish + South_Italian @ 2.764795
8 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish @ 2.769740
9 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + East_Sicilian + Italian_Jewish @ 2.792049
10 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + East_Sicilian @ 2.839174
11 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish @ 2.875792
12 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Cyprian + Tuscan @ 2.979171
13 Algerian_Jewish + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish @ 2.979847
14 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.021517
15 Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish @ 3.024438
16 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Cyprian + West_Sicilian @ 3.132438
17 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Cyprian + West_Sicilian @ 3.135957
18 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.138411
19 Ashkenazi + East_Sicilian + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish @ 3.142313
20 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + West_Sicilian @ 3.153346
stevenarmstrong
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- Y-DNA haplogroup
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- mtDNA haplogroup
- J1c3
This illustrates the drawback of using these broad terms. To be more precise, she, to me at least, looks like someone who the people of Central and South America would refer to as Criollo--someone of nearly pure Spanish descent (i.e. no African and little-to-no Native).
But apparently she's just a nice Jewish girl from Connecticut.
Sile
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- North Alpine Italian
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- T1a2 -Z19945..Jura
- mtDNA haplogroup
- H95a1 ..Pannoni
Thanks for your guesses! She is Jewish:
http://www.classmates.com/people/Rhea-Tannenbaum/8700022569
Here is her GEDmatch kit number:
https://www.geni.com/discussions/158342
PCA based on Eurogenes K15:
http://i.imgur.com/By2HkpW.png
Eurogenes K13 results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.76
2 West_Med 21.4
3 North_Atlantic 14.34
4 West_Asian 11.26
5 Baltic 7.05
6 Red_Sea 4.91
7 Siberian 1.37
8 South_Asian 1.28
9 Sub-Saharan 1.05
10 East_Asian 0.9
11 Northeast_African 0.66
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 4.41
2 Algerian_Jewish 5.31
3 Italian_Jewish 5.59
4 South_Italian 5.65
5 East_Sicilian 6.47
6 Sephardic_Jewish 6.61
7 Central_Greek 7.91
8 West_Sicilian 8.72
9 Tunisian_Jewish 9.69
10 Libyan_Jewish 10.59
11 Italian_Abruzzo 10.73
12 Cyprian 12.91
13 Greek_Thessaly 13.01
14 Tuscan 15.36
15 Lebanese_Muslim 17.17
16 Syrian 18.38
17 Samaritan 18.97
18 Lebanese_Druze 20.03
19 Lebanese_Christian 20.18
20 Palestinian 20.28
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.4% Ashkenazi + 43.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.54
2 59.4% Ashkenazi + 40.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3
3 74.4% Algerian_Jewish + 25.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.02
4 83.2% Algerian_Jewish + 16.8% Bulgarian @ 3.05
5 84.7% Algerian_Jewish + 15.3% Romanian @ 3.14
6 63% Algerian_Jewish + 37% Central_Greek @ 3.16
7 73.6% Italian_Jewish + 26.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.3
8 86.9% Algerian_Jewish + 13.1% Serbian @ 3.3
9 61.3% Ashkenazi + 38.7% South_Italian @ 3.33
10 66.4% Ashkenazi + 33.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.33
11 91.9% Algerian_Jewish + 8.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.34
12 91.9% Algerian_Jewish + 8.1% Southwest_Russian @ 3.35
13 91.9% Italian_Jewish + 8.1% Erzya @ 3.35
14 89.1% Algerian_Jewish + 10.9% Moldavian @ 3.36
15 91.4% Algerian_Jewish + 8.6% South_Polish @ 3.36
16 92.5% Algerian_Jewish + 7.5% Erzya @ 3.36
17 91.5% Algerian_Jewish + 8.5% Ukrainian @ 3.38
18 92.4% Algerian_Jewish + 7.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.38
19 89.7% Algerian_Jewish + 10.3% Hungarian @ 3.38
20 91.2% Algerian_Jewish + 8.8% Tatar @ 3.39
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Algerian_Jewish +50% Ashkenazi @ 2.664004
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Algerian_Jewish +25% Ashkenazi +25% Central_Greek @ 2.578594
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + South_Italian @ 2.402218
2 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Central_Greek @ 2.578594
3 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish @ 2.599690
4 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi @ 2.664004
5 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + South_Italian @ 2.681313
6 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish + South_Italian @ 2.749120
7 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish + South_Italian @ 2.764795
8 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish @ 2.769740
9 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + East_Sicilian + Italian_Jewish @ 2.792049
10 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + East_Sicilian @ 2.839174
11 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish @ 2.875792
12 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Cyprian + Tuscan @ 2.979171
13 Algerian_Jewish + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish @ 2.979847
14 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.021517
15 Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish @ 3.024438
16 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Cyprian + West_Sicilian @ 3.132438
17 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Cyprian + West_Sicilian @ 3.135957
18 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.138411
19 Ashkenazi + East_Sicilian + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish @ 3.142313
20 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + West_Sicilian @ 3.153346
That PCA program is the only PCA I have ever seen which has a high degree of accuracy
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