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Tomenable
04-04-17, 16:31
Guess ethnicity (no cheating / google-searching please):

http://i.imgur.com/oSQ3YcO.jpg

Later I will post her GEDmatch admixture results.

Angela
04-04-17, 17:38
That's a tough one. I know someone from the Abruzzi who looks a bit like that: same sort of blobby nose. If not, I'd say something "eastern" like. Perhaps she's an a-typical Eastern European?

Sile
04-04-17, 21:27
Guess ethnicity (no cheating / google-searching please):

http://i.imgur.com/oSQ3YcO.jpg

Later I will post her GEDmatch admixture results.

looks like an old friulian auntie of mine ( since passed away ) whose origins where hungarian

srdceleva
04-04-17, 21:34
She could come from anywhere. Looks American to me like school teachers I had. She also looks a bit Serbian like some Serbian women here in vienna

Yetos
05-04-17, 07:39
Is she the sister of

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/[email protected]@._ V1_UY1200_CR162,0,630,1200_AL_.jpg

wider AustroHungarian area till Romania

From Tyrol To Romania, and from Serbia to Poland,

stevenarmstrong
05-04-17, 07:55
She could come from anywhere. Looks American to me like school teachers I had. She also looks a bit Serbian like some Serbian women here in vienna

How do you define "American"? Are you saying she looks like an Inuit? Cherokee? Maya? If so, I'd say: "look again."

stevenarmstrong
05-04-17, 08:16
If she is in fact, "American," I'd guess a Latina of some sort

stevenarmstrong
05-04-17, 08:23
And if I were to narrow down the geography, I'd guess either she or her family came from a country in or near the Caribbean (e.g. Cuba, Puerto Rico, Colombia, etc).

srdceleva
05-04-17, 10:38
I say American as a typical modern American women who is a mix of a bunch of European countries.

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srdceleva
05-04-17, 10:40
And if I were to narrow down the geography, I'd guess either she or her family came from a country in or near the Caribbean (e.g. Cuba, Puerto Rico, Colombia, etc).
She's too European looking I don't see any native or African influence in her.

Tomenable
05-04-17, 11:59
Thanks for your guesses! She is Jewish:

http://www.classmates.com/people/Rhea-Tannenbaum/8700022569

Here is her GEDmatch kit number:

https://www.geni.com/discussions/158342

PCA based on Eurogenes K15:

http://i.imgur.com/By2HkpW.png

http://i.imgur.com/By2HkpW.png

Eurogenes K13 results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.76
2 West_Med 21.4
3 North_Atlantic 14.34
4 West_Asian 11.26
5 Baltic 7.05
6 Red_Sea 4.91
7 Siberian 1.37
8 South_Asian 1.28
9 Sub-Saharan 1.05
10 East_Asian 0.9
11 Northeast_African 0.66

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 4.41
2 Algerian_Jewish 5.31
3 Italian_Jewish 5.59
4 South_Italian 5.65
5 East_Sicilian 6.47
6 Sephardic_Jewish 6.61
7 Central_Greek 7.91
8 West_Sicilian 8.72
9 Tunisian_Jewish 9.69
10 Libyan_Jewish 10.59
11 Italian_Abruzzo 10.73
12 Cyprian 12.91
13 Greek_Thessaly 13.01
14 Tuscan 15.36
15 Lebanese_Muslim 17.17
16 Syrian 18.38
17 Samaritan 18.97
18 Lebanese_Druze 20.03
19 Lebanese_Christian 20.18
20 Palestinian 20.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.4% Ashkenazi + 43.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.54
2 59.4% Ashkenazi + 40.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3
3 74.4% Algerian_Jewish + 25.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.02
4 83.2% Algerian_Jewish + 16.8% Bulgarian @ 3.05
5 84.7% Algerian_Jewish + 15.3% Romanian @ 3.14
6 63% Algerian_Jewish + 37% Central_Greek @ 3.16
7 73.6% Italian_Jewish + 26.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.3
8 86.9% Algerian_Jewish + 13.1% Serbian @ 3.3
9 61.3% Ashkenazi + 38.7% South_Italian @ 3.33
10 66.4% Ashkenazi + 33.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.33
11 91.9% Algerian_Jewish + 8.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.34
12 91.9% Algerian_Jewish + 8.1% Southwest_Russian @ 3.35
13 91.9% Italian_Jewish + 8.1% Erzya @ 3.35
14 89.1% Algerian_Jewish + 10.9% Moldavian @ 3.36
15 91.4% Algerian_Jewish + 8.6% South_Polish @ 3.36
16 92.5% Algerian_Jewish + 7.5% Erzya @ 3.36
17 91.5% Algerian_Jewish + 8.5% Ukrainian @ 3.38
18 92.4% Algerian_Jewish + 7.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.38
19 89.7% Algerian_Jewish + 10.3% Hungarian @ 3.38
20 91.2% Algerian_Jewish + 8.8% Tatar @ 3.39

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Algerian_Jewish +50% Ashkenazi @ 2.664004

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Algerian_Jewish +25% Ashkenazi +25% Central_Greek @ 2.578594

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + South_Italian @ 2.402218
2 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Central_Greek @ 2.578594
3 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish @ 2.599690
4 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi @ 2.664004
5 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + South_Italian @ 2.681313
6 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish + South_Italian @ 2.749120
7 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish + South_Italian @ 2.764795
8 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish @ 2.769740
9 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + East_Sicilian + Italian_Jewish @ 2.792049
10 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + East_Sicilian @ 2.839174
11 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish @ 2.875792
12 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Cyprian + Tuscan @ 2.979171
13 Algerian_Jewish + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish @ 2.979847
14 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.021517
15 Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish @ 3.024438
16 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Cyprian + West_Sicilian @ 3.132438
17 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Cyprian + West_Sicilian @ 3.135957
18 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.138411
19 Ashkenazi + East_Sicilian + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish @ 3.142313
20 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + West_Sicilian @ 3.153346

stevenarmstrong
05-04-17, 16:26
She's too European looking I don't see any native or African influence in her. This illustrates the drawback of using these broad terms. To be more precise, she, to me at least, looks like someone who the people of Central and South America would refer to as Criollo--someone of nearly pure Spanish descent (i.e. no African and little-to-no Native).

But apparently she's just a nice Jewish girl from Connecticut. :)

Sile
05-04-17, 21:42
Thanks for your guesses! She is Jewish:

http://www.classmates.com/people/Rhea-Tannenbaum/8700022569

Here is her GEDmatch kit number:

https://www.geni.com/discussions/158342

PCA based on Eurogenes K15:

http://i.imgur.com/By2HkpW.png

http://i.imgur.com/By2HkpW.png

Eurogenes K13 results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.76
2 West_Med 21.4
3 North_Atlantic 14.34
4 West_Asian 11.26
5 Baltic 7.05
6 Red_Sea 4.91
7 Siberian 1.37
8 South_Asian 1.28
9 Sub-Saharan 1.05
10 East_Asian 0.9
11 Northeast_African 0.66

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 4.41
2 Algerian_Jewish 5.31
3 Italian_Jewish 5.59
4 South_Italian 5.65
5 East_Sicilian 6.47
6 Sephardic_Jewish 6.61
7 Central_Greek 7.91
8 West_Sicilian 8.72
9 Tunisian_Jewish 9.69
10 Libyan_Jewish 10.59
11 Italian_Abruzzo 10.73
12 Cyprian 12.91
13 Greek_Thessaly 13.01
14 Tuscan 15.36
15 Lebanese_Muslim 17.17
16 Syrian 18.38
17 Samaritan 18.97
18 Lebanese_Druze 20.03
19 Lebanese_Christian 20.18
20 Palestinian 20.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.4% Ashkenazi + 43.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.54
2 59.4% Ashkenazi + 40.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3
3 74.4% Algerian_Jewish + 25.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.02
4 83.2% Algerian_Jewish + 16.8% Bulgarian @ 3.05
5 84.7% Algerian_Jewish + 15.3% Romanian @ 3.14
6 63% Algerian_Jewish + 37% Central_Greek @ 3.16
7 73.6% Italian_Jewish + 26.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.3
8 86.9% Algerian_Jewish + 13.1% Serbian @ 3.3
9 61.3% Ashkenazi + 38.7% South_Italian @ 3.33
10 66.4% Ashkenazi + 33.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.33
11 91.9% Algerian_Jewish + 8.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.34
12 91.9% Algerian_Jewish + 8.1% Southwest_Russian @ 3.35
13 91.9% Italian_Jewish + 8.1% Erzya @ 3.35
14 89.1% Algerian_Jewish + 10.9% Moldavian @ 3.36
15 91.4% Algerian_Jewish + 8.6% South_Polish @ 3.36
16 92.5% Algerian_Jewish + 7.5% Erzya @ 3.36
17 91.5% Algerian_Jewish + 8.5% Ukrainian @ 3.38
18 92.4% Algerian_Jewish + 7.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.38
19 89.7% Algerian_Jewish + 10.3% Hungarian @ 3.38
20 91.2% Algerian_Jewish + 8.8% Tatar @ 3.39

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Algerian_Jewish +50% Ashkenazi @ 2.664004

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Algerian_Jewish +25% Ashkenazi +25% Central_Greek @ 2.578594

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + South_Italian @ 2.402218
2 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Central_Greek @ 2.578594
3 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish @ 2.599690
4 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi @ 2.664004
5 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + South_Italian @ 2.681313
6 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish + South_Italian @ 2.749120
7 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish + South_Italian @ 2.764795
8 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish @ 2.769740
9 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + East_Sicilian + Italian_Jewish @ 2.792049
10 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + East_Sicilian @ 2.839174
11 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish @ 2.875792
12 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Cyprian + Tuscan @ 2.979171
13 Algerian_Jewish + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish @ 2.979847
14 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.021517
15 Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish @ 3.024438
16 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Cyprian + West_Sicilian @ 3.132438
17 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Cyprian + West_Sicilian @ 3.135957
18 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.138411
19 Ashkenazi + East_Sicilian + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish @ 3.142313
20 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + West_Sicilian @ 3.153346

That PCA program is the only PCA I have ever seen which has a high degree of accuracy

amenhotep
13-04-17, 19:04
american with jewish blood