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I1a3_Young
27-07-17, 05:34
Ordered: May 6
Processed: May 8
Received Kit: May 10
Mailed Kit: May 11
Kit Received: May 15
Lab work begun: May 30
Anticipated results: Aug 16
Result received: July 26 (no email, I just checked the website every day)

Raw data download gives me an error and could still be not fully ready.

I'm going to post some graphics because there are so many "views" to choose from.

Abstract: I'm thrilled with the regional results and consider them to be highly accurate. I now have mtDNA: H5b1. Y-DNA confirmed what I knew from Ancestry.com test: I1 (Z63). Overall results track extremely closely with Ancestry.com test.

I1a3_Young
27-07-17, 06:41
You can view nine different maps. Each one is a combination of Cautious, Standard, or Complete. Then you can show Global, Regional, or Subregional.


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I1a3_Young
27-07-17, 06:46
Here are the Regional maps. Notice the non-British bits only show up under "complete."

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I1a3_Young
27-07-17, 06:48
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I'll compare numbers to Ancestry.com and some GEDmatch calculators in the future.

Fire Haired14
27-07-17, 09:36
Interesting.

Johane Derite
27-07-17, 10:14
897289738974

Here's the last three. I'll compare numbers to Ancestry.com and some GEDmatch calculators in the future.


Really appreciate this, thanks so much for uploading. Feel free to keep us updated on that RAW file.

Is that "kurdish" something that shows up usually in other tests also?

I1a3_Young
27-07-17, 16:14
I got caught at a busy time for this but I will get a detailed comparison between companies.

Yes, all the companies have identified some mystery component coming from SE Europe or near east.

They all seem unsure, as shown by the cautious and standard views here. Ancestry shows 3% Italian and 1% Ashkenazi. MyHeritage shows it as Balkan. WeGene specifically called it Iran. Northwest Iran was Kurdish territory and Kurds are very close to Askenazi Jews if I remember correctly.

There's nothing in the paper trail for it. It would have had to have been in a person coming from Oslo ~1881, London ~1890, or Prussia ~1809, or a mystery out-of-wedlock event.


I wonder if it could be HLA related. My brother has the same looks as my father and I but none of this mystery component. According to Ancestry.com I got the exact same components in a whole package from my father and my brother, who has a different HLA, got none of those components.

The GEDmatch calculators have us very similar.

I'm so busy right now, I wish I had more time to sit at my computer!

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I1a3_Young
27-07-17, 16:18
I just noticed that I reposted incorrect pics on sub region view. I reposted two regional pics instead. It was late [emoji14]

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Johane Derite
27-07-17, 16:33
I got caught at a busy time for this but I will get a detailed comparison between companies.

Yes, all the companies have identified some mystery component coming from SE Europe or near east.

They all seem unsure, as shown by the cautious and standard views here. Ancestry shows 3% Italian and 1% Ashkenazi. MyHeritage shows it as Balkan. WeGene specifically called it Iran. Northwest Iran was Kurdish territory and Kurds are very close to Askenazi Jews if I remember correctly.

There's nothing in the paper trail for it. It would have had to have been in a person coming from Oslo ~1881, London ~1890, or Prussia ~1809, or a mystery out-of-wedlock event.


I wonder if it could be HLA related. My brother has the same looks as my father and I but none of this mystery component. According to Ancestry.com I got the exact same components in a whole package from my father and my brother, who has a different HLA, got none of those components.

The GEDmatch calculators have us very similar.

I'm so busy right now, I wish I had more time to sit at my computer!

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No worries, thanks for this update, look forward to hearing more!

I1a3_Young
27-07-17, 18:25
On the Facebook LivingDNA customer group I just saw a British lady who claimed a lot of Welsh ancestry who also had 1.7% Kurdish! It could be a component like the small amount Basque that is floating around the general British population rather than a recent event.

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davef
27-07-17, 19:17
Just a little hint: Ashkenazi are a mix of Middle East/European so they aren't similar to Kurds and neither are Southern Europeans, though it seems that living dna may be confusing these two populations with Kurds for some reason. It's new so there are bugs to squash.

If other British users are scoring a small percentage of Kurd, there's no need to investigate Kurdish ancestry.

Sennevini
27-07-17, 19:57
In my case, my 1/16 Jewish seems to have been represented by Living DNA, by lack of a Jewish cluster, as a mixture of Kurdish, Iberian and West-Balkan. In some cases, people without Jewish ancestry also get this Kurdish. I have also seen some Brits who got Pashto, which seems to be connected with the Indo-Iranian component in the MDLP admixture calculator; others got a lot of Tuscan, with no explanation yet.

I1a3_Young
27-07-17, 21:37
Thanks for posting, I have been reading elsewhere that the Kurdish should be Jewish. Somebody said in May that LivingDNA has zero Ashkenazi references.

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Fire Haired14
27-07-17, 23:45
H5b1 is a super rare haplogroup. Most European H5 is H5a1 which was probably spread by EEFs. H5b1 could have completely different origin.

Sennevini
28-07-17, 09:50
Thanks for posting, I have been reading elsewhere that the Kurdish should be Jewish. Somebody said in May that LivingDNA has zero Ashkenazi references.

They should get Ashkenazi references; however, they like to assign DNA to regions on maps, and that poses a problem for "wandering" populations.

davef
28-07-17, 16:19
This whole thing with the Kurdish scores tells me that this calculator isn't reliable for those who aren't fully northern European. Yes, it seems you can still be a full northerner and score a bit of Kurd, but if you have known ancestry that isn't from the north, this calculator might mislead you.

I1a3_Young
28-07-17, 20:58
I think we've established that they are still building as a company. If they had only references from other parts of the world then I wouldn't have gotten it.

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I1a3_Young
29-07-17, 06:50
898289838984

Eurogenes K36 puts heat map on Southern England. Other GEDmatch calculators Oracle top choices include North Dutch, Southwest English, Utahn White.

Real paper ancestry as known matches closely to Ancestry.com and LivingDNA.

I believe the middle eastern bits are correctly identified by Ancestry as Euro Jew.

The breakdown by region of Britain by LivingDNA is accurate as known for our immigrants. Southern England overwhelmingly produced the early colonial Americans and the Scots-Irish and Welsh came through Northern Ireland shortly after. The Cornwall bit is a later immigrant as is the Norwegian.

LivingDNA shifted 2% from Norwegian to Orkney Isles which I believe is incorrect though understandable. Both LivingDNA and Ancestry have the larger regions approximately correct.

Iberian on Ancestry = Basque on LivingDNA (base amount within old populations of Britain imo)
Finnish tracks exactly
Norwegian tracks but should pick up the Orkney from LivingDNA to make it 10% there as well.
The Celtic components on Ancestry are really Scottish Highland, Welsh, and Cornwall celtic components so LivingDNA is correct not showing Irish.
The low West Euro is not typical for my family or other British people from what I've seen.
The Euro Jew and Italian on Ancestry is shown as Kurdish on LivingDNA - they apparently don't have Ashkenazi samples. I have no paper trail for this component and it could have come from an immigrant from London who was an orphan. Low percent Euro Jew is not uncommon in the British Isles though.

I know exactly which families make the North Welsh, South Welsh, and Cornwall pieces.

My German immigrants should account for 1-2% German, one of which was from Prussia but photo does not look Jewish.

I1a3_Young
01-08-17, 03:29
Ok, I downloaded and analyzed the files. LivingDNA will not give you Y position data, just positive SNP calls.

There was a 1.04% "null" value rate where there was -- instead of a letters like "AG"

For comparison, the latest Ancestry.com file had a 0.74% "null" value rate.

I used the two files to compare positions and "repair" "null" values by replacing them with the values in the other file. I repaired 878 positions out of 6452 on LDNA and 848 out of 4978 on Ancestry.

I uploaded the repaired Ancestry file to GEDmatch and ran a K13 on the old vs the repaired. It did change it some and this is only from "null" values in the original Ancestry test.



K13

Old
Repaired
Delta



#
Population
Percent




1
North_Atlantic
48.88
48.95
0.07


2
Baltic
22.26
22.26
0


3
West_Med
13.15
13.09
-0.06


4
West_Asian
7.73
7.71
-0.02


5
East_Med
3.67
3.66
-0.01


6
Red_Sea
2.16
2.17
0.01


7
Oceanian
0.78
0.78
0


8
Siberian
0.5
0.49
-0.01


9
Amerindian
0.47
0.46
-0.01


10
Sub-Saharan
0.42
0.44
0.02


Single Pop Sharing:





#
Population (source)
Distance




1
Southeast_English
4.23
4.22
-0.01


2
Southwest_English
4.4
4.38
-0.02


3
Orcadian
4.44
4.4
-0.04


4
Irish
4.49
4.43
-0.06


5
North_Dutch
4.9
4.85
-0.05


6
West_Scottish
4.97
4.9
-0.07


7
Danish
5.65
5.61
-0.04


8
North_German
5.8
5.79
-0.01


9
South_Dutch
5.83
5.9
0.07


10
West_German
6.88
6.95
0.07




Also, I ran Eurogenes Jtest and it came up 3.87% Ashkenazi, Oracle still #1 English.

I1a3_Young
01-08-17, 04:15
H5b1 is a super rare haplogroup. Most European H5 is H5a1 which was probably spread by EEFs. H5b1 could have completely different origin.


I haven't found out much about it except that it's found in NW Europe.

davef
01-08-17, 05:56
Did you get your dna tested via 23amdme? If so, did you score any ashkenazi?

I1a3_Young
01-08-17, 16:32
Here's a K36 of repaired vs old Ancestry file:



Repaired


Old


Delta


North_Sea
21.37

North_Sea
21.37

0


North_Atlantic
13.2

North_Atlantic
13.12

0.08


Iberian
13

Iberian
12.99

0.01


Central_Euro
10.59

Central_Euro
10.56

0.03


Italian
9.01

Italian
9.06

-0.05


East_Central_Euro
7.66

East_Central_Euro
7.72

-0.06


Fennoscandian
7.61

Fennoscandian
7.62

-0.01


French
6.39

French
6.37

0.02


Basque
4.38

Basque
4.39

-0.01


Volga-Ural
2.59

Volga-Ural
2.56

0.03


West_Caucasian
2.22

West_Caucasian
2.24

-0.02


North_Caucasian
1.58

North_Caucasian
1.57

0.01


West_Med
0.39

West_Med
0.4

-0.01



No, Davef I have not had a 23andMe test. I have only had Ancestry + LivingDNA tests plus free uploads like MyHeritage and GEDmatch.

Johane Derite
01-08-17, 16:44
Here's a K36 of repaired vs old Ancestry file:

Pretty close. 1st question, how did you repair the livingdna raw data.

2nd question, have you had any correspondence with livingdna over their issues with the raw data? Have they indicated at all
whether they will update their raw file formats or does it seem that this is their final offer?

thx

I1a3_Young
01-08-17, 17:21
Pretty close. 1st question, how did you repair the livingdna raw data.

2nd question, have you had any correspondence with livingdna over their issues with the raw data? Have they indicated at all
whether they will update their raw file formats or does it seem that this is their final offer?

thx

I used Microsoft Excel to split genotype columns to match Ancestry raw format. I sorted for bad values and then used =VLOOKUP() to find the corresponding values for the bad positions (both ways). Then for the LivingDNA I recombined the columns to put both alleles back together and pasted over the bad values.

I haven't been able to successfully upload the repaired LDNA file yet, I get an error. The repaired Ancestry did pull my numbers into more correct territory ever so slightly.

Edit: I saved the file in Apple format .txt instead of tab delimited or MSDOS and it appears to be working. I'll have repaired LivingDNA figures to compare to repaired Ancestry.com figures!

I1a3_Young
01-08-17, 17:22
#
Population
Percent

#
Population
Percent


1
North_Atlantic
49.39

1
North_Atlantic
49.76


2
Baltic
23.47

2
Baltic
23.09


3
West_Med
12.48

3
West_Med
12.56


4
East_Med
5.11

4
East_Med
5.25


5
West_Asian
5.11

5
West_Asian
5.07


6
Red_Sea
1.54

6
Red_Sea
1.46


7
South_Asian
1.16

7
South_Asian
1.29


8
Northeast_African
0.64

8
Northeast_African
0.59


9
Sub-Saharan
0.61

9
Oceanian
0.42


10
Oceanian
0.5

10
Sub-Saharan
0.37






11
Amerindian
0.13


#
Population (source)
Distance

#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Southeast_English
2.5

1
Southeast_English
2.2


2
Orcadian
3.55

2
Orcadian
3.5


3
North_Dutch
3.78

3
Southwest_English
3.88


4
Danish
4.01

4
North_Dutch
3.99


5
Southwest_English
4.15

5
Danish
4.21


6
Irish
4.44

6
Irish
4.34


7
West_Scottish
4.64

7
West_Scottish
4.44


8
North_German
4.91

8
North_German
5.29


9
South_Dutch
5.78

9
South_Dutch
5.85


10
Norwegian
6.41

10
Norwegian
6.62



These are the unrepaired LDNA numbers for EuroK13 from regular GEDMatch (first set) and GENESIS BETA (second set). Same exact file.

I1a3_Young
01-08-17, 18:08
Alright, I have repaired files for Ancestry and LivingDNA uploaded to GENESIS BETA:

This is EurogenesK36. Repairing the LDNA file removed a 0.37 Central African component



EuroK36 Genesis
Ancest.
LDNA
Delta


North_Sea
21.37
23.63
2.26


North_Atlantic
13.2
8.89
-4.31


Iberian
13
11.67
-1.33


Central_Euro
10.59
14.83
4.24


Italian
9.01
6.51
-2.5


East_Central_Euro
7.66
6.04
-1.62


Fennoscandian
7.61
6.99
-0.62


French
6.39
7.77
1.38


Basque
4.38
5.6
1.22


Volga-Ural
2.59
1.74
-0.85


West_Caucasian
2.22
0.56
-1.66


North_Caucasian
1.58
0
-1.58


West_Med
0.39
0
-0.39


Near_Eastern
0
3.98
3.98


Eastern_Euro
0
1.29
1.29


North_African
0
0.47
0.47

I1a3_Young
01-08-17, 18:15
Here is repaired file of Ancestry and LivingDNA using Genesis Beta K13. Notice population match for LDNA is all the way down to 2.2 for SE English. Big difference.



K13 Genesis Beta
AncREP
LDNA REP


#
Population
Percent



1
North_Atlantic
48.96
49.76


2
Baltic
22.24
23.09


3
West_Med
13.09
12.56


4
West_Asian
7.72
5.07


5
East_Med
3.62
5.25


6
Red_Sea
2.19
1.46


7
Oceanian
0.78
0.42


8
Siberian
0.5
0


9
Amerindian
0.46
0.13


10
Sub-Saharan
0.44
0.37


11
South_Asian
0
1.29


12
Northeast_African
0
0.59


#
Population (source)
Distance



1
Southeast_English
4.25
2.2


2
Southwest_English
4.38
3.88


3
Orcadian
4.42
3.5


4
Irish
4.44
4.34


5
North_Dutch
4.87
3.99


6
West_Scottish
4.91
4.44


7
Danish
5.63
4.21


8
North_German
5.81
5.29


9
South_Dutch
5.92
5.85


10
West_German
6.97



11
Norwegian
7.33
6.62


12
Swedish
9.24

Johane Derite
01-08-17, 18:25
Here is repaired file of Ancestry and LivingDNA using Genesis Beta K13. Notice population match for LDNA is all the way down to 2.2 for SE English. Big difference

Damn, it looks i'm not gonna be buying a livingdna to be honest. Have they been responsive at all to your results and issues with the rawdna?

I1a3_Young
01-08-17, 18:29
Damn, it looks i'm not gonna be buying a livingdna to be honest. Have they been responsive at all to your results and issues with the rawdna?

I haven't asked them anything. My questions will be about the "Kurdish" and whether I can get the Y positions tested in addition to the positive Y calls.

davef
01-08-17, 20:25
I'm also interested in the Kurdish number. I'm no historian, but I don't see Kurds having any impact on European populations worth mentioning.

Johane Derite
01-08-17, 22:08
I haven't asked them anything. My questions will be about the "Kurdish" and whether I can get the Y positions tested in addition to the positive Y calls.

Cool, thanks for this. If they're rawdna is buggy i think its constructive if you let them know so they can nip it in the bud, anyway thanks so much for the valuable feedback, i'm following it closely : )

I1a3_Young
03-08-17, 18:54
Paper
Ancestry
LDNA


English
56.732%
69.0%
72.7%


Unknown, mostly brit
21.875%




Scots or Scots-Irish
7.837%

8.6%


Norwegian
6.250%
10.0%
9.7%


German
3.906%
1.0%



Irish
1.807%
10.0%



Welsh
1.489%

1.7%


French
0.098%




N. Italy
0.006%
3.0%



Finland

3.0%
3.1%


Basque

3.0%
1.2%


Euro Jew

1.0%



"Kurdish"


3.0%



100.000%
100.000%
100.000%



Here is a paper vs Ancestry vs LivingDNA breakdown. On LDNA I pulled Orkney into Scandinavian.

The unknown is all from the mother side with nothing non-British about it based on my mother's and her mother's Ancestry test.

I1a3_Young
04-08-17, 20:28
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Here are MDLP K11 run with LDNA and Ancestry repaired files.

Does this mesolithic Iranian component cause the mystery near-east stuff?

I1a3_Young
08-08-17, 18:11
Note that the Kurdish only comes up when forced via "Complete" mode. It gives World (unassigned) in both Standard and Cautious

World (unassigned) When calculating your ancestry we've identified some DNA that is found in multiple areas of the world. These have been listed as "Unassigned", since we cannot pinpoint as confidently, specifically which regions that DNA is similar to. As our methods improve you will see your results updated and a lower proportion of Unassigned appearing.

I have seen a few more people with small % Kurdish.

I emailed them just now with the following demands, along with feedback:

1. Can I get my negative YSNP calls?
2. Can I repair/fill in/re-upload null values that I know from other tests such as Ancestry.com to get a more complete ethnicity estimate?
3. Can you give me details on the data and methods used to calculate the Basque and Kurdish?




I will keep the thread updated with response and response time.

Johane Derite
08-08-17, 18:29
I know im becoming repetitive but thanks for the updates im really interested in them

I1a3_Young
10-08-17, 18:09
Response received today.

1. Cannot have YSNP negative calls because the file would be too large (16,000 calls) and they don't have a nice way to present it.
2. Cannot accept any 2nd party data for consistency purposes (obvious, I just thought I'd ask on a long shot)
3. Generic response about how they calculate ethnicity but no specifics for the Kurdish or Basque provided.

I1a3_Young
10-08-17, 20:10
There are 150,540 SNPs common to both the LDNA and Ancestry files that GEDmatch uses. When comparing Ancestry files they use 439,216 SNPs. This is probably why puntDAL is terrible with LivingDNA data - it's looking for SNPs that aren't there.

LDNA plays well with GEDmatch Eurogenes and MDLP but not with puntDNAL.

Jtest with LDNA file shows less than 1% Ashkenazi but Oracle calls English/English/English/English. Ancestry test Oracles English/English/English/W. German

I ran all kits for both side of my family and all of them show about the same Ash% on Jtest. I can't find any specific sources on how the mystery near-east or unassigned is determined by any calculator.

I1a3_Young
15-08-17, 14:10
90579058

K36 map for Bollux from another thread, and now with updated version since the site started coloring.

srdceleva
16-08-17, 11:26
There are 150,540 SNPs common to both the LDNA and Ancestry files that GEDmatch uses. When comparing Ancestry files they use 439,216 SNPs. This is probably why puntDAL is terrible with LivingDNA data - it's looking for SNPs that aren't there.

LDNA plays well with GEDmatch Eurogenes and MDLP but not with puntDNAL.

Jtest with LDNA file shows less than 1% Ashkenazi but Oracle calls English/English/English/English. Ancestry test Oracles English/English/English/W. German

I ran all kits for both side of my family and all of them show about the same Ash% on Jtest. I can't find any specific sources on how the mystery near-east or unassigned is determined by any calculator.Is living DNA still working to update their raw data? Does anyone know this or are we just hoping gedmatch will eventually be able to process living DNA kits better. Even with Genesis it only takes a couple of seconds for each calc to read my living DNa data. The snp countmust be extremely low.

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I1a3_Young
16-08-17, 13:46
Is living DNA still working to update their raw data? Does anyone know this or are we just hoping gedmatch will eventually be able to process living DNA kits better. Even with Genesis it only takes a couple of seconds for each calc to read my living DNa data. The snp countmust be extremely low.

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LDNA uses a newer chip for their tests. They can't change which SNPs are included. The GEDmatch calcs are the ones that need to be updated to use more SNPs.

GEDmatch Genesis calcs give me more specific results on the oracles.

I1a3_Young
16-08-17, 19:23
I combined the files into Ancestry.com format and removed duplicate positions by chromosome number, keeping the Ancestry values which appear to always be the same except sometimes reversed between the two companies. For example, AT might be TA on the other.

I uploaded the megafile to GEDmatch.

Eurogenes K13 test uses the following number of SNPs for the kits:

Ancestry 172,090
LivingDNA 58,368
Combined 174,761

Therefore the Eurogenes calculator only looks at 2,671 SNPs in the LDNA file that aren't already included in the Ancestry.com file.

Most of the critical locations from the LDNA file are being examined based on the good approximations of ethnicity. That could mean that many of the Ancestry.com (which is almost the exact chip as 23andMe these days) values aren't useful to the Eurogenes calc.

There is a lot of SNP data in the LDNA file that could be utilized in some way. How can we tap this potential?

My new file has 1,127,303 SNPs, which doesn't count the YDNA from either.

There is very little overlap between the two.

I1a3_Young
16-08-17, 19:26
HarappaWorld uses the following SNP numbers:

Ancestry 171,383
LDNA 52,203
Combined 174,072

srdceleva
16-08-17, 19:35
I combined the files into Ancestry.com format and removed duplicate positions by chromosome number, keeping the Ancestry values which appear to always be the same except sometimes reversed between the two companies. For example, AT might be TA on the other.

I uploaded the megafile to GEDmatch.

Eurogenes K13 test uses the following number of SNPs for the kits:

Ancestry 172,090
LivingDNA 58,368
Combined 174,761

Therefore the Eurogenes calculator only looks at 2,671 SNPs in the LDNA file that aren't already included in the Ancestry.com file.

Most of the critical locations from the LDNA file are being examined based on the good approximations of ethnicity. That could mean that many of the Ancestry.com (which is almost the exact chip as 23andMe these days) values aren't useful to the Eurogenes calc.

There is a lot of SNP data in the LDNA file that could be utilized in some way. How can we tap this potential?You combined the ancestry file with the living DNA one? Sorry didn't get that, I'm not as gifted as you in these things. So in the end you've gotten gedmatch to read even more snps than it did before with just the ancestry or living DNA file, amazing work.

I understand now, so it's gedmatch which needs to update. Well that's most likely going to take a while.

srdceleva
16-08-17, 19:47
You are right about ldna seeming to test more important snps.

With my ancestry file I always seem to score very high north western euro percentages. Though I would score significantly higher eastern euro percentages than people who I knew where half British/American and half eastern euro. I almost always scored the same or higher western euro results as them as well which always made no sense to me. A half Hungarian /half British guy I know almost always scores the same or lower north west euro as me. With my new ldna kit the results seem to make more sense.

Here is dodecad v3 with ancestry

East_European22.70
West_European46.50
Mediterranean20.96
Neo_African-
West_Asian6.66
South_Asian- Northeast_Asian0.49
Southeast_Asian0.68
East_African0.36
Southwest_Asian1.47
Northwest_African0.19Palaeo_African-

Here is with living

East_European23.00
West_European43.70
Mediterranean21.35
Neo_African-
West_Asian6.58
South_Asian- Northeast_Asian0.29
Southeast_Asian1.65
East_African- Southwest_Asian3.43
Northwest_African- Palaeo_African-

The Oracle for Ldna also has me at being 76% Hungarian and 24 % Norwegian.

Way closer to my actual make up







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don_joe
24-08-17, 13:16
First I would like to say hello here, since this is my very first post on this forum. I have a question if someone would be so kind to answer. Yesterday I've recieved my DNA results from Living DNA and I only got the main Y HG (E-V13). Could you please direct me somewhere where I can find some further details, like subclade, Neanderthal mix, etc.? Where can I upload my raw data from Living DNA to have more info about my ancestry? Thanks.

I1a3_Young
24-08-17, 14:49
First I would like to say hello here, since this is my very first post on this forum. I have a question if someone would be so kind to answer. Yesterday I've recieved my DNA results from Living DNA and I only got the main Y HG (E-V13). Could you please direct me somewhere where I can find some further details, like subclade, Neanderthal mix, etc.? Where can I upload my raw data from Living DNA to have more info about my ancestry? Thanks.
You can upload to GEDmatch.com. I don't know about neanderthal variants, that is a 23andMe thing.

Further detail on your Y can be found through additional testing at FTDNA or YSEQ.

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don_joe
24-08-17, 15:51
Thank you for your response. I've uploaded something yesterday to GEDmatch, it seems that they need 2 days for the calculation. Regarding FTDNA, just to be sure, did you mean the "National Geographic Genographic Project Tranfsers" section which is for free? Sorry, I'm relatively new to this and I've spend a lot of time googleing and downloading calculators without coming much further. Thanks.

I1a3_Young
25-08-17, 20:12
Thank you for your response. I've uploaded something yesterday to GEDmatch, it seems that they need 2 days for the calculation. Regarding FTDNA, just to be sure, did you mean the "National Geographic Genographic Project Tranfsers" section which is for free? Sorry, I'm relatively new to this and I've spend a lot of time googleing and downloading calculators without coming much further. Thanks.
FTDNA and YSEQ are paid services for deep level Y testing. You can upload to www.myheritage.com even though I don't think their results are accurate.

don_joe
26-08-17, 10:18
Great, thanks!

mwauthy
02-11-17, 00:00
Odd that France is not broken down into regions like Italy. Someone from southwest France should score differently than northeast France. I wonder what area and what samples they are using for their “French” region? I hope it’s not as useless as the French region in the Eurogenes k36 algorithm.

mwauthy
12-03-18, 02:52
Results for 50% French Canadian and 50% Wallonia Belgian.

Great Britain and Ireland: 63.6%
France: 14.4%
Iberian Peninsula 9.5%
South Italy 8.3%
West Balkans 4.1%